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Posted by Rainborn on Aug-04-2005 13:31:

That IS badass. Yeah let us know all, man. And have fun (this is too late but wth)


Posted by TrancEver on Aug-04-2005 17:06:

After I`ve listened Tiesto live I can clearly say that he was nearly satisfactory..Everyone was expecting much better! The reason for this disappintment is a short set, not lively shows, disconnection of Tiesto from the crowd etc..I think Tiesto changes his performance due to crowd..Even though there was a huge crowf oberthere lat night, he ENJOYS playing at famous events like GlobalGathering, Sensation, Creamfrields, Dance Valley etc..but anyway many people paid for him and went there to see him performing usual great set but he didn`t do that...he cared Cyprus as a training gig and played many unknown tracks and remixes...he also played some of his famous tracks to uplift the crowd though...anyway this is my opinion! i also seek your views mates!


Posted by Guerrilla on Aug-04-2005 18:21:

I think that every DJ has its own bad and good sets. Can you imagine how often these DJ's travel... and each time people expect them to perform at the highest level. I think it is just impossible... of course, it would be nice if every DJ played each his set as "the last one in his life" but they are people too... They get tired, they have different moods and etc.

Let's just be thankful for what these DJ's do.


Posted by TrancEver on Aug-05-2005 08:42:

yeah i understand u and i think like that also but there are some musts that a dj can do..and personally, i know Tiesto as a very good stage performer..For example, three weeks before Armin was here and he performed incredible..communication with people etc..Tiesto too does hand moves, raises his hands towards crowd..but he didn`t do those that night...but he played good...many tracks that we didn`t know...many remixes..many of them were`satisfactory` but some of them were very good!! Anyway I don`t see Tiesto as bad because he is one of the best still!! His most disapponting point probably was his short set and leaving the stage with a very sharp ending...all the people screamed one more and one more but he didn`t care...all the people stayed all their hands up and jumping! he might end up with a Silence though! anyway thanks Tiesto for coming to Cyprus...


Posted by mushyflowa on Aug-05-2005 09:26:

Confused

quote:
Originally posted by Joca
Tiesto is nothing more then a name these days. He can get away with half ass dj'ing and people stil love em!


u said it..


Posted by Guerrilla on Aug-05-2005 15:17:

Probably, the best Tiesto's performance that I've witnessed so far was @ club Space in Miami during WMC 2005. He played 4 hours set; and he just drove people crazy...


Posted by ZZandirt on Aug-08-2005 09:10:

I must agree on the fact that a dj doesn't allways perform @ his (her) best. this is only human....

BUT:

when you pay top dollar for a show you should expect a top show and NOTHING LESS!!!
so no excuses for anybody being human.. if you expect people to pay (way too much) for a party, you should be able to give them quality (ALWAYS!!!)

personally, Tijs is a very nice guy, but as a dj (read: performing artist) he's way different.... that's very understandable... if he would be his charming self all the time, he'd be burnt down by now...and to comment on an earlier post: requesting a record with a dj. is like telling him: your recordchoice sux, take this record, I know it better then u... INSULT. you don't tell a surgeon which blade to use when he's operating... (@least I hope not!)

and finally: when jetlags are being used as an excuse, I can only say one thing...: fly in a day early... take more time to rest... do less shows or use some drugs... give people quality... (quality is NOT a matter of taste, mind u)

just another dutch opinion...
rspct!!


Posted by TrancEver on Aug-08-2005 12:15:

Here are a few photos from Tiesto`s gig in Cyprus:

http://www.cluboholic.com/cms.php?rave=pv&dance=0149&beat=011128&bass=166&vibe=26

http://www.cluboholic.com/cms.php?rave=pv&dance=0149&beat=011194&bass=166&vibe=92

http://www.cluboholic.com/cms.php?rave=pv&dance=0149&beat=011249&bass=166&vibe=147


Posted by vanditpandit on Aug-09-2005 14:23:

paul_van_dyk_live_on_BBC1_from_cafe_mambo_ibiza_6_8_99. This 25 minute set kicked ass.
PvD @ gatecraher summer sound system - 2nd best club nite ever.
PvD @ global gathering 2005 overshadowed all.
He gave for an angel and forbidden fruit.
Juz a couple of examples why he is one of the best dj/producer.
And fuck who cares if a dj is rude or wateva!
Are you here for music or getting a treatment ... u want him to come and spoonfeed you cereal...
Close ur eyes and trip on!

And who the fcuk are you to tell them what to play???and who are you to tell them that they suck???
If you think u r really good judges, why dont u start spinning some shit and get to a place where they are!!

Now there can be many mistakes technically by djs,
Their track selection mite not be the same as what is running in your mind.

Coming back to being rude and all that ...
aint ur mom dad rude to you or vice versa ...
And the music a dj plays is the biggest interaction between a dj and the crowd...y on this blue earth(as per the pics by NASA) do u want a dj to move his hands .... gosh he has gotta play for 3 to 8 hours .... y would he wanna waste his energy by dancing.
I understand some djz dance throughout their set cuz they know their music only will not move the crowd.
But when sasha danced at beaunes aires recently it looked sexy on him.
It is just an added benefit.
And who says PvD does not move behind his decks ... LFA 2005... chk out the pics on TA.


Posted by vanditpandit on Aug-09-2005 14:29:




Just to show you that Pvd moves and when he moves he makes sure u get goosebumps watching him.
Check out sasha baby in tht pic.
The track being played tat time is Lostep - Burma.


Posted by Guerrilla on Aug-09-2005 22:01:

quote:
And who the fcuk are you to tell them what to play???and who are you to tell them that they suck??? If you think u r really good judges, why dont u start spinning some shit and get to a place where they are!!


Calm the fuck down man... Why r u so angry?

Who are we to tell them (DJ's) that they suck? We are the people who listen to their music; moreover, we are the ones who goes to their shows and buy their albums...

So, what u r saiyng is that in order to be able to "judge" (or express opinion about) any DJ's music, one has to know how to actually produce it?


Posted by vanditpandit on Aug-10-2005 06:51:

yup ur right ...
after listenin to ISOS4 CD2 i hereby declare .... TIESTO SUCKS.
By the way im tokin bout those judges who just say he sucks cuz it looks kool.
And i wasnt angry .... i was trying to make a point ... if u think tht looked anger .... call 1-800-who cares (toll free).


Posted by mdk on Aug-10-2005 09:07:

quote:
Originally posted by vanditpandit



Just to show you that Pvd moves and when he moves he makes sure u get goosebumps watching him.
Check out sasha baby in tht pic.
The track being played tat time is Lostep - Burma.


WOW!!! THIS IS WORLDSHOCKING NEWS!!! PAUL VAN DYK LIFTING ONE ARM UP IN THE AIR!!! Man can he dance!! He has so many talent!! It's all in the way he moves! So fantastic.


Posted by ZZandirt on Aug-10-2005 09:35:

quote:
Originally posted by mdk
WOW!!! THIS IS WORLDSHOCKING NEWS!!! PAUL VAN DYK LIFTING ONE ARM UP IN THE AIR!!! Man can he dance!! He has so many talent!! It's all in the way he moves! So fantastic.


no no, this is a commercial for a new brand of deodorant....imagine that....

(was there @ TLFA this year. GREAT SET OF BOTH......!!!! even met one or two (or more.... is kinda fuzzy ) TA's there... c y'all next year!!)

great pic btw...


Posted by Night Stalker on Aug-10-2005 10:10:

Want to Buy a Moderator that would close this never ending thread already!!!!!


Posted by wackadoo on Aug-10-2005 16:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Mindphaser
Cause people think it's cool to say he sucks.. makes them think they are really part of a leet group of nerds.

Who cares who likes who... just go your own way and enjoy what you're doing.

Couldnt be put better! Tiesto IMO is still an amazing DJ & because he continues to push the envelope he gets bagged on. People say hes all about the money, Tiesto makes so much money. Well sorry to say it but if any of you were in his shoes, what would you be doing? This is his career and with any career, what is the point? To make money! Get over it and move on.


Posted by Clovis on Aug-11-2005 11:39:

quote:
Originally posted by wackadoo
Couldnt be put better! Tiesto IMO is still an amazing DJ & because he continues to push the envelope he gets bagged on. People say hes all about the money, Tiesto makes so much money. Well sorry to say it but if any of you were in his shoes, what would you be doing? This is his career and with any career, what is the point? To make money! Get over it and move on.


And what exactly is that envelope hes pushing? Making a club night into a one man circus show?


Posted by Guerrilla on Aug-11-2005 14:31:

quote:
And what exactly is that envelope hes pushing? Making a club night into a one man circus show?


Usually, this "one man circus show" is way better than any other club night...


Posted by wackadoo on Aug-11-2005 19:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
And what exactly is that envelope hes pushing? Making a club night into a one man circus show?

Of course it had to be the trance nemesis responding to my thread! The envelope includes but isnt exclusive to his 'In Concert' shows. His album Just Be, countless remixes, merchandise, The Olympics, Disneyland, TMF Music Awards, etc. The list is endless! And if you missed the end of my post or had a hard time understanding it I will restate it "Get over it and move on."


Posted by dr_ma on Aug-11-2005 20:54:

Re: Why does almost everyone think that Tiesto suck?

quote:
Originally posted by Guerrilla
Recently, I have been reading a lot of comments about DJ Tiesto and it appeared to me that a lot of people are convinced that Tiesto sucks. Why does almost everyone feel so negative regarding this DJ? He plays a very good trance music; definately, not all his sets are perfect but most of them are very high quality. He has amazing shows where people just go crazy and etc... What is so bad about Tiesto? If Tiesto sucks, then what DJ does not?


Alot of people just don't like the fact that he is so mainstream now. Just like when Oakenfold got big. Plus he does play some cheesey tracks quite a bit.


Posted by Clovis on Aug-11-2005 21:05:

quote:
Originally posted by wackadoo
Of course it had to be the trance nemesis responding to my thread! The envelope includes but isnt exclusive to his 'In Concert' shows. His album Just Be, countless remixes, merchandise, The Olympics, Disneyland, TMF Music Awards, etc. The list is endless! And if you missed the end of my post or had a hard time understanding it I will restate it "Get over it and move on."



Why am I the trance nemesis? I'm going to the show in your sig and I still listen to j00F/Ferry/MarcoV and a host of other trance DJs.

I'll give him +1 point for playing at the olympics, but his DJ skills are just NOT THAT GOOD at ALL...period...especially lately.

That Disneyland set was absolutley horrible...I've heard bedroom DJ's with far better mixing.


Posted by Guerrilla on Aug-11-2005 21:26:

quote:
yup ur right ... after listenin to ISOS4 CD2 i hereby declare .... TIESTO SUCKS. By the way im tokin bout those judges who just say he sucks cuz it looks kool.


I agree that ISOS 4 CD2 is not one of the best Tiesto's productions. But it is not sufficient enough to negatively judge Tiesto as a DJ. You can actually say that all DJ's suck if you base your opinion only on one of their albums. Paul van Dyk, Ferry Corsten, Armin van Buuren, Sasha, and etc. have albums that are not that great. So, all of them suck (according to ur point of view)???

And it does not look cool when somebody says that Tiesto sucks, simply because it is not true. A DJ sucks when he or she has no skills at all but still keep playing... And Tiesto has a lot of skills as well as Armin van Buuren, Paul van Dyk and many others.

It is just matter of taste.


Posted by jupiterone on Aug-14-2005 14:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Guerrilla
I agree that ISOS 4 CD2 is not one of the best Tiesto's productions. But it is not sufficient enough to negatively judge Tiesto as a DJ. You can actually say that all DJ's suck if you base your opinion only on one of their albums. Paul van Dyk, Ferry Corsten, Armin van Buuren, Sasha, and etc. have albums that are not that great. So, all of them suck (according to ur point of view)???

And it does not look cool when somebody says that Tiesto sucks, simply because it is not true. A DJ sucks when he or she has no skills at all but still keep playing... And Tiesto has a lot of skills as well as Armin van Buuren, Paul van Dyk and many others.

It is just matter of taste.


True that. haha dont bring armin in here though thats like comparing the smoothness of butter to a cement wall. . IMO i loved every armin album i have ever purchased. And as Dj's get older, not every one of them will stick with his prime. Tiesto's mixing used to be pwnage. 1999 was an ownage year and so was 2000. I loved the another day in the office dvd and i have it and watch it. Some of his sets like dance valley and kremlin hq when he played members of mayday were awesome.


Posted by rodakris on Aug-14-2005 16:28:

Question ditto

quote:
Originally posted by Guerrilla
I agree that ISOS 4 CD2 is not one of the best Tiesto's productions. But it is not sufficient enough to negatively judge Tiesto as a DJ. You can actually say that all DJ's suck if you base your opinion only on one of their albums. Paul van Dyk, Ferry Corsten, Armin van Buuren, Sasha, and etc. have albums that are not that great. So, all of them suck (according to ur point of view)???

And it does not look cool when somebody says that Tiesto sucks, simply because it is not true. A DJ sucks when he or she has no skills at all but still keep playing... And Tiesto has a lot of skills as well as Armin van Buuren, Paul van Dyk and many others.

It is just matter of taste.


it IS about taste..its what you like...so ppl say djs suck..so what...it only gets to you if u care..and in those certain cases i don't...tiesto is chilled and i like that...yoji is hard trance and i like that...i like trance in general...just listen and glow...


Posted by NYTranceScene on Aug-14-2005 20:59:

Tiesto does not suck. Everybody has his ups and downs, even the number 1 DJ of the world.


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