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Posted by Googooly on Jul-09-2005 02:36:

quote:
Originally posted by aloep
That should be your top 10. There is no universal fact about who are the top 10 DJ's that everyone will agree on.



oh are you really my fan?


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jul-09-2005 02:38:

It's the Jimmy Saville style chin that does it. He's a big fan of big chins... So i'm told.


Posted by Redd on Jul-09-2005 02:48:

Silverblue - Step Back (Blue Sky Remix)

Cheesy and I love it


Posted by Cobalt on Jul-09-2005 03:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Aiwendil
Binary Finary - 1999 (Gouryella Rmx)
Crazy Malamute - Free To Ride (U.B.I's Fat Tire Mix)
Westbam vs Red Jerry - Wizards Of The Sonic (Matt Darey Remix)
Paul Van Dyk - Words (PvD's For Love Mix)
Hands Burn - Good Shot

Whoa, we agree on some things. Good choices, especially Wizards of the Sonic.

I, for one, feel that Out Of The Blue is one of the absolute cheesiest.


Posted by aloep on Jul-09-2005 03:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Whoa, we agree on some things. Good choices, especially Wizards of the Sonic.

I, for one, feel that Out Of The Blue is one of the absolute cheesiest.


If you'd read on a bit you'd have found out that he copied and pasted the list from shades_of_gray's top 5 in his sig!

I've never seen the fuss about the Matt Darey Mix of "Wizards Of The Sonic" myself. The Red Jerry 95 Mix is much better in my books.


Posted by tubularbills on Jul-09-2005 04:07:

quote:
Originally posted by shades_of_gray
"Oh tell me why?.....Do we build castles in the sky.......ohh tell me why........all the castles way up highhhhh"


ha! thats the first thing that popped into my head.


Posted by Cobalt on Jul-09-2005 04:07:

quote:
Originally posted by aloep
If you'd read on a bit you'd have found out that he copied and pasted the list from shades_of_gray's top 5 in his sig!

I've never seen the fuss about the Matt Darey Mix of "Wizards Of The Sonic" myself. The Red Jerry 95 Mix is much better in my books.

Hahahah, I didn't even realize.

True though, except for Words.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jul-09-2005 04:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt

True though, except for Words.




'Werd.'


B'dum tish...


Posted by stevieboy32808 on Jul-09-2005 04:50:

quote:
Originally posted by D-res
you're a fuckin ignorant idiot for now knowing that simply, what is commercial, is cheesy.


I highly disagree. Just because a track is commercial does not mean it's cheese. Trance music is considered underground (roughly not popular) here in the states. For instance, take a track like Solarcoaster by Solar Stone gets picked up on the radio (by some miracle) and is accepted on a grand scale by the general public. Suddenly the track picks up steam and becomes popular, mainstream, or, in your case, commercial. Whatever the case, we are talking about the same track. It simply changed status, but it doesn't mean that all commercial equals cheese.


Posted by sash on Jul-09-2005 05:40:

one man's cheese is another man's choon


Posted by Absolut_Vodka on Jul-09-2005 06:36:

quote:
Originally posted by D-res
you're a fuckin ignorant idiot for now knowing that simply, what is commercial, is cheesy.


eh no


Posted by benjamin on Jul-09-2005 07:35:

quote:
Originally posted by XRVOL
Don't go bagin zombie nation.
It fuckin roooooooooooooocks


+1


Posted by shades_of_gray on Jul-09-2005 08:36:

quote:
Originally posted by aloep
If you'd read on a bit you'd have found out that he copied and pasted the list from shades_of_gray's top 5 in his sig!

I've never seen the fuss about the Matt Darey Mix of "Wizards Of The Sonic" myself. The Red Jerry 95 Mix is much better in my books.



shit........what is it with some people


Posted by vrahnos on Jul-09-2005 09:10:

my definition of cheese

when everyone (and by everyone i mean none-tranceaddicts) likes a song its cheese.

i mean, invite a friend who dont listens to trance and play him some tunes, if he likes a tune then its cheese, if he dont likes a tune then probably its quality trance.
it takes a while to understand trance if you're a n00b/irrelative.

cheese is what the irrelative masses like (for me)

edit: NP: Ian van Dahl - Castles In The Sky (Wippenberg remix) - [00:04m of 05:49m/192Kbps/44KHz/7,99 Mb]
yes i like it


Posted by Cobalt on Jul-09-2005 09:14:

Though I cringe to say it, the best definition of cheese probably comes from Ishkur: A production that's trying to be something it's not. This leaves a lot of room for ambiguity, but cheese is a rather ambiguous term.


Posted by vrahnos on Jul-09-2005 09:23:

here's one piece of cheese for the thread starter....

NP: Aquagen - Hard to Say I�m Sorry - [00:19m of 03:19m/192Kbps/44KHz/4,57 Mb]

i'm sad now
this shit reminds me an ex of mine >


Posted by JakeC on Jul-09-2005 09:39:

Re: my definition of cheese

quote:
Originally posted by vrahnos
when everyone (and by everyone i mean none-tranceaddicts) likes a song its cheese.

i mean, invite a friend who dont listens to trance and play him some tunes, if he likes a tune then its cheese, if he dont likes a tune then probably its quality trance.
it takes a while to understand trance if you're a n00b/irrelative.

cheese is what the irrelative masses like (for me)

edit: NP: Ian van Dahl - Castles In The Sky (Wippenberg remix) - [00:04m of 05:49m/192Kbps/44KHz/7,99 Mb]
yes i like it


haha talking like trance is some secret underground society.


Posted by vrahnos on Jul-09-2005 09:40:

Re: Re: my definition of cheese

quote:
Originally posted by JakeC
haha talking like trance is some secret underground society.


do you know many people who liked trance from the beggining?


Posted by JakeC on Jul-09-2005 10:10:

Re: Re: Re: my definition of cheese

quote:
Originally posted by vrahnos
do you know many people who liked trance from the beggining?


Myself.


Posted by vrahnos on Jul-09-2005 10:15:

Re: Re: Re: Re: my definition of cheese

quote:
Originally posted by JakeC
Myself.


well my point is that most of the ppl dont like trance from the start, thats what i meant before


Posted by noikeee on Jul-09-2005 10:25:

I don't think we can objectively classify something as "cheesy". I feel it rather depends on the listener. For me a cheesy track is either made of emotions overblown to a point it doesn't sound like real emotions to me, or when I feel it tries too hard to be cool, failing at it. Both of these depend on the listener's musical taste, musical culture/experience, and opinion.

It's funny and sad at the same time to see epic trance heads being so aggressive, thinking they know it all and their opinion is a fact when someone just calls their music cheese. This has been repeated over and over again here on the boards for years, yet there's always new people appearing and acting exactly like so many others have done in the past. Hey guys, most of those "others" (in which i'll include myself) ended up hating/disliking whatever they used to listen when they first arrived to this board..


Posted by shades_of_gray on Jul-09-2005 10:30:

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0
I don't think we can objectively classify something as "cheesy". I feel it rather depends on the listener. For me a cheesy track is either made of emotions overblown to a point it doesn't sound like real emotions to me, or when I feel it tries too hard to be cool, failing at it. Both of these depend on the listener's musical taste, musical culture/experience, and opinion.

It's funny and sad at the same time to see epic trance heads being so aggressive, thinking they know it all and their opinion is a fact when someone just calls their music cheese. This has been repeated over and over again here on the boards for years, yet there's always new people appearing and acting exactly like so many others have done in the past. Hey guys, most of those "others" (in which i'll include myself) ended up hating/disliking whatever they used to listen when they first arrived to this board..



fair point,
people might find my top 5 (below) cheesey, but i dont......its all a matter of opinion.....it just bugged me when several people on this thread targeted my top 5 as being cheese


Posted by kr00t0n on Jul-09-2005 11:12:

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0
I don't think we can objectively classify something as "cheesy". I feel it rather depends on the listener. For me a cheesy track is either made of emotions overblown to a point it doesn't sound like real emotions to me, or when I feel it tries too hard to be cool, failing at it. Both of these depend on the listener's musical taste, musical culture/experience, and opinion.

It's funny and sad at the same time to see epic trance heads being so aggressive, thinking they know it all and their opinion is a fact when someone just calls their music cheese. This has been repeated over and over again here on the boards for years, yet there's always new people appearing and acting exactly like so many others have done in the past. Hey guys, most of those "others" (in which i'll include myself) ended up hating/disliking whatever they used to listen when they first arrived to this board..


It's more of an unfortunate case that cheesy is associated with happy, and prog and minimal techno don't have happy vibes in them, whereas trance and also house tend to do so.

Thus people refer to them as cheesy, especially those that have become bitter over the years for some bizarre reason towards some types of EDM.

I for one still love the kind of trance that I love, have done so for almost 8 years now, but that's not to say I odnt mix/listen to/appreciate other genres, especially at the moment when current trance is rather stagnent with all the remakes and general samey sound.

But there not being that many tracks around at the moment has no impact on the tracks I love from the past, why on earth should it?

The reason I believe epic trancers, to which I admit being a part of, often get aggressive is due to the fact that it is the most picked upon genre, especially the 'Oh, you must be new to the scene, your tastes will evolve to better things and you will cast trance aside just like I and so many others did' attitude. I mean really, why should a persons musical taste be the most determining factor in how long or in depth they have been listening to EDM?


Posted by XRVOL on Jul-09-2005 12:52:

Commercial does not equal cheesy. Many say Zombie Nation is cheese but i fuckin love it.

imo darude - sandstorm is not cheese it was just very very very overplayed, very.


Posted by kr00t0n on Jul-09-2005 13:06:

quote:
Originally posted by XRVOL
Commercial does not equal cheesy. Many say Zombie Nation is cheese but i fuckin love it.

imo darude - sandstorm is not cheese it was just very very very overplayed, very.


I consider both to be cheesy to me, didn't like the first time I heard regardless of how much they got played, zombie nation especially grates me, the vocal is SO bad and the main riff has they cheesy retro sound that just doesn't work for me.


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