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Originally posted by armandzadza Kosmas Epsilon = Progressive House Benz & MD = McProg Delikate Imposters = Progressive House Pig & Dan = Progressive House James Holden = Tech-House Nathan Fake = Tech-House

I agree with most of your assesments here (Benz & MD mcprog? HAHA). But all of these artists have wandered into trance a few times with wonderful results.

There are better examples, the list was completely off the top. Can't argue with the others on there either.

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Originally posted by Psy-T not if he's following the old (read: real) definition of trance.

bah! just because the trance now doesn't sound like your specific sub-genre acidy trance of the 'early-nineties' doesn't mean it's not trance!

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Originally posted by djmetatron I agree with most of your assesments here (Benz & MD mcprog? HAHA). But all of these artists have wandered into trance a few times with wonderful results. There are better examples, the list was completely off the top. Can't argue with the others on there either.

If you have to think long and hard about good trance producers, doesn't that tell you anything about the state of the scene?

Pick almost any track from a Digweed set, and most house fans will praise it as a worthy representative of the house genre. Not the case with Tiesto's, Ferry's, or AvB's sets.

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Originally posted by Psy-T not if he's following the old (read: real) definition of trance.

Loved your acid mix, by the way!

Vadim Zhukov is making some nice trance tracks reminds me of man with no name stuff that oakey used to play

Re: Disconnected with Trance Music lately

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Originally posted by Roy123 i'm more into Electro and Prog House music ( Not MCPROG which also sounds all the same lately ). The Dj's i hear nowadays r Mylo , Sasha , John Digweed , Sander Kleinenberg, , Max Graham, steve lawler etc...

Congratulations - you've taken your first step into a larger world.

From what i've heard this year, even from what i heard last year, trance hasnt been that great. as for progressive, i think it's really coming into it's own. i don't even think it's done growing. the best for progessive is yet to come. great stuff.

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Originally posted by Psy-T for starters: early platipus everything harthouse early oliver lieb a lot of r&s

^^
fark yes!!
I think this is the style of trance people are referring to when they complainin about it "not being like the old days"

also add..

early React
Some of the stuff on Noom

It had the euphoric feeling of what todays uplifing does to you, but a much deeper and less predictable structure. It didn't plod along and wasnt as serious or dark as the prog of today and it wasnt a complete sonic mindfuck like the psy of today. Somehow it had early elements of all these and managed to pull it off flawlessly. Artists didnt all sound the same and more importantly it didnt abuse supersaws or follow a formula so strict that breakdowns were happening at 2.20 in every track.

I dont want to sound like I'm slagging it off, because I still like some of todays melodic trance and there are some excellent producers out there. It just seems there is a big gap between that end of trance and the harder/darker stuff for some reason. Trance producers just dont seem to be pushing that aspect of trance any more. My bet is that the push back towards that style of sound (and it will happen in time) will come from prog and psy producers anyway and not the so called current 'trance' genre.

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Originally posted by Psy-T for starters: early platipus everything harthouse early oliver lieb a lot of r&s

I wouldn't say everything harthouse or all early platipus, because harthouse released some non-trance as well as early platipus.

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and goa was hardly around back then,, there was a bit of it, but not enough.

Oh there was some...

Har-Ell Prussky
Eat Static
Doof
Infinity Project
Electric Universe
X-Dream
Blue Planet Corporation
K.U.R.O.
Hallucinogen
Astralasia
Technossomy
Zuvuya
Man With No Name
SUN Project
Kode IV
Koxbox
Total Eclipse
Mandra Gora
Quietman

I guess a GOA head could tell you more.

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Originally posted by Axolotyl It had the euphoric feeling of what todays uplifing does to you, but a much deeper and less predictable structure. It didn't plod along and wasnt as serious or dark as the prog of today and it wasnt a complete sonic mindfuck like the psy of today. Somehow it had early elements of all these and managed to pull it off flawlessly. Artists didnt all sound the same and more importantly it didnt abuse supersaws or follow a formula so strict that breakdowns were happening at 2.20 in every track. I dont want to sound like I'm slagging it off, because I still like some of todays melodic trance and there are some excellent producers out there. It just seems there is a big gap between that end of trance and the harder/darker stuff for some reason. Trance producers just dont seem to be pushing that aspect of trance any more. My bet is that the push back towards that style of sound (and it will happen in time) will come from prog and psy producers anyway and not the so called current 'trance' genre.

Couldn't agree with you MORE! I think what happens is there is we all slip into rutts... and that is how I feel sometimes with many of the current tracks being released, that they follow the same formula.

My love for the music hasn't really decreased, I still get chills, but the element of suprise that captivated me back in the late 90's has seemed to dissappear, or perhaps I have just listened to too much? It just doesn't seem as magical anymore... it all seems bland sometimes.

However whenever I go back and listen to some old sets for exampel PvD - Live @ innercity 2001... i just get blown away.

I go through regular house phases. But I always come home to where the heart is, trance.

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Originally posted by djnaeblis I still get goosebumps when I listen to the old tracks like Tenshi or something. Something that helped me keep my fire burning, is not listening to the same type all the time. Take a break, and listen to a different genre, and come back in a couple months?

+ fucking 1!

Tenshi (Transa Remix) is my favorite Trance track. EVER.

I also do the same as you. I started getting into EDM with Trance (been listening to little bits of it since I was like 11 or 12 but never was into it that much) and last summer was when I really got into it. Anyway, last summer was strictly trance for me, then as it got later into the year, it was more Prog and DnB. Then earlier this year, I met a foreign exchange student at my school from France whose name was Vincent. He got me into House, since he let me borrow a ton of mix CDs and sets he had collected. During the times I listened to Prog, DnB, and House, I barely listened to pure Trance at all. Now I'm into Trance again. I think this keeps my love for EDM much stronger

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Originally posted by Aiwendil Oh there was some... Har-Ell Prussky Eat Static Doof Infinity Project Electric Universe X-Dream Blue Planet Corporation K.U.R.O. Hallucinogen Astralasia Technossomy Zuvuya Man With No Name SUN Project Kode IV Koxbox Total Eclipse Mandra Gora Quietman

add to that...

Astral Projection
Hux Flux
Prana
Man Made Man
Zodiac Youth
TIP
Juno reactor
Etnica
Pleadeans
Psysex
Green Nuns of the Revolution
Cwithe
Slinky Wizard
UX
PsyChaos
Transwave

All these acts were around in 1995 and probably a bit before then too.



hehe.. goa fuckin owns =)

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Originally posted by Axolotyl All these acts were around in 1995 and probably a bit before then too.

i was talking about the early 90's, goa didnt really start appearing till the mid 90's... it was around in very small doses (doof, tip, etc)

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Originally posted by djmetatron bah! just because the trance now doesn't sound like your specific sub-genre acidy trance of the 'early-nineties' doesn't mean it's not trance!

i'm not talking about acid trance at all
acid trance isnt that close to trance either way

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Originally posted by Psy-T i'm not talking about acid trance at all acid trance isnt that close to trance either way

I agree, I've never really liked acid at all. I think we are getting into abstract semantics and it's really a waste of my time to defend my opinion; so be done with it.

I'm going to see Max Graham tomorrow (really tonight as it's 2am here) and I am very excited to hear one of the vetrans of trance 'lay it down' so-to-speak.

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Originally posted by djmetatron I think we are getting into abstract semantics and it's really a waste of my time to defend my opinion; so be done with it.

whatever, misinterpret facts, ignore them, whatever. telling me about the history of something you werent involved in while i was.

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Originally posted by djmetatron I'm going to see Max Graham tomorrow (really tonight as it's 2am here) and I am very excited to hear one of the vetrans of trance 'lay it down' so-to-speak.

and max graham who didnt start producing till mid 2000 is a veteran?
why are you even arguing?

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