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Originally posted by mwas What i would do to change trance is change the metre. I thought of this the other day - most songs have a 4/4 metre and up until recently many new tracks have remained original and different using just that one type or metre. Think of how amazing it would be if trance producers started using different metres? There are so many more out there. And i was just reading up on Wikipedia and they were talking about this "Polymetre" - OMG two different metres playing at once? Unless producers already do this and i just haven't noticed... The article is here: Click Me

That stuff is SO gonna spoil your trip.

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Originally posted by Parpyparpy I would make more artists create more artist albums.. like sasha.

+fucking 1

Re: If You had the fate of trance in your hand...

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Originally posted by Soonmeister Just imagine if you had the Fate of Trance in your hand what would you do with it, what would you change, how would you change it etc etc Comments.....

i don't have to imagine it. everyone here has it, it's called spending power & word of mouth. BUY music from artists you like. BRAG about those you enjoy.

for instance, i listened to whirloop - modify my earth . it fucken rocks my motherfuckenmind. it tingles and teases my neurons. there, me BRAGGING about it. now i would BUY if it was released, but it's not.

BUY & BRAG. do the same.

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Originally posted by *InVeRs3* when trance evolves into something in the next decade and people start calling it booty-goth trance, people are going to complain about it just like people complain about how today's rock sucks compared to back then.

We are not complaining for the gradual loss of the quality in trance!!! We are complaining about the loss of the specifical 95-2000 TRANCE quality, the meanings the atmospheres and everything that put us in from the begining!
To the ppl who complain today it would be the same shit the trance in 2010 in 2020 and so on if it won't be the era of 95-2000! It doesn't matter ! QUALITY OF 95-2000 TRANCE is the deal nothing else!that feeling must remain forever ! It could be evolved technically etc yes but the feeling and the deepness of that era must remain!

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Originally posted by feidias It doesn't matter ! QUALITY OF 95-2000 TRANCE is the deal nothing else!that feeling must remain forever ! It could be evolved technically etc yes but the feeling and the deepness of that era must remain!

Lest someone invents a time machine, you're fvcked.

And on a side note, exclamation marks at the end of every sentence does not exactly make you sound more intelligent.

Instead of criticizing my attitude (I can't understand y u think i i am trying to be intelligent never intended so)try criticizing the meaning of my reply and what i try to say
Thanks

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Originally posted by feidias Instead of criticizing my attitude (I can't understand y u think i i am trying to be intelligent never intended so)try criticizing the meaning of my reply and what i try to say Thanks

I did.

I already stated you're never going to get either that feeling or that music back. Live with it.

see to that 1/10 of all track are the only ones getting release..

ive never had a problem with trance being more mainstream. as been said it creates the room for people to make the scene worthwile to work in, tho there is a fine line between that and the scene being too milked for its own good

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Originally posted by feidias We are not complaining for the gradual loss of the quality in trance!!! We are complaining about the loss of the specifical 95-2000 TRANCE quality, the meanings the atmospheres and everything that put us in from the begining! To the ppl who complain today it would be the same shit the trance in 2010 in 2020 and so on if it won't be the era of 95-2000! It doesn't matter ! QUALITY OF 95-2000 TRANCE is the deal nothing else!that feeling must remain forever ! It could be evolved technically etc yes but the feeling and the deepness of that era must remain!

nice work n00bxorrs....



Yeah,

every one of us wants trance to be popular, but no-one wants it to be commercialised.... kinda hypocritical...

we have a contradiction here, so you need to work out a solution to it, so we get the positives of both.

u need to keep it in the underground, away from the big asshole labels, and keep it with people that will respect it, adn stop it from going too commercialy, if u know what i mean....

BTW!!!!

wtf is wrong with like trance bumper stickers, RINGPHONES etc.???!?!??!?!

WTF do u ppl have against expression. i love trance, and i want to tell the world i do... what's the problem with that....

The main problem being that nobody gives a shit that you like trance, therefore you project yourself as an obnoxious moron.

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Originally posted by Aiwendil The main problem being that nobody gives a shit that you like trance, therefore you project yourself as an obnoxious moron.

as we say in the bronx... hatehatehatehatehatehate damn!


anyway, trance being mainstream may not be such a good thing. look at hiphop in america. for the most part it freakin blows now! rappers are making millions off of ridculously shitty beats and half-assed lyrics. it sucks and its scary that people are so into it and the culture that worships (it seems) money.

if i control the fate of trance id let more of the independents release some songs... like us. a lot our fellow TAs songs are good and i wish i had them on vinyl. i dont think our scene or the contracts should ALL be reserved for the big namers.

...eh who knows. actually i dont think id want such an enormous responsibility.

ive heard this mainstream/underground argument before. just to get things a little clearer, the people who dont like mainstream are the people who understand that mainstream music breeds simple and lazy musicians who stick to a certain "mainstream" style.

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Originally posted by cistane the people who dont like mainstream are the people who understand that mainstream music breeds simple and lazy musicians who stick to a certain "mainstream" style.

Many of the people that don't like mainstream just do so because it's 'cool'.

Don't worry, if you had a Jeff Mills bumper sticker and The Bells as your ringtone i'd be saying the same thing.

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Originally posted by Aiwendil The main problem being that nobody gives a shit that you like trance, therefore you project yourself as an obnoxious moron.

Dude, u don't fucking know me, and what i was saying was just to use as an example, u dick. I don't have any trance bumper stickers, or a trance ring tone. I just believe that if people like something, and wish portray a certain image that goes with it, they should be free to do so. If they don't want to, that's fine.

I'm sorry that ur a souless retard, who stands for nothing. I bet you're a fucking nerd, who sits there in his big glasses. WHen a person looks at u, they look at a looser, a dull, boring, person, who seems to have no interests or passion.

If other people love something enough, and want to present themselves that way, u should just leave them and have admiration for them, rather than trying to bring them down, u looser.

Retards like you, are the reason why people are afraid to speak out. Retards like you are the reason, why teenage girls get anorexia and teenage boys beat people up. YOur the fuckign reason why we have a society of conformist retards. People like you are the reason why there's music out there that is the same shit. Because you promote conformity, and u bash anyone that steps out of the circle

Just let people be, and stop criticising them for liking something.

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Originally posted by Aiwendil The main problem being that nobody gives a shit that you like trance, therefore you project yourself as an obnoxious moron.

obnoxious hypocritical prick

I would steer it back into something... you know... original? Repeating the same formula from 1998 is not OMFG AMAZING.... it's boring, and you all know it.

I would like to hear more uplifting trance instead of progressive and tech-trance.

I agree with the idea and reality that it's a paradox to have trance "mainstream" and "Underground". I think it's a cycle-based thing running over the years. One genre takes the scene, bloats and creates a mix of both good and arguably bad artists (remember there's no such thing as a definite bad artist; everyone's personal preferences in trance artists and any music artist will be different in a genre), then the genre deflates and goes into a more dormant and/or "original" state, with changes to it that can't be ignored, for better or worse. Anyways back to the original line of question and away from the personal attacks: should I have the fate of Trance in my hands, I'd make it more mainstream than it is currently, to a certain point.

Assuming that fate control could last for a while then I'd mainstream it for a few years then have it recess, giving the starting artists a taste for what happens out there when they become mainstream and hold their integrity in check accordingly and change accordingly. We can't always be bent on having trance styles stay a certain way 'cause music is not like that. It's about commonality but not absolute commonality; one can't see this until it goes mainstream and sees what happens.

I know it's a bit vague but I can write on for pages. Let Trance ascend mainstream status and we'll take it accordingly, then have it recede and go back to a starting point and see how it goes.

if the fate of trance was in my hands...

id make it as big if not bigger than house.

and just like house - there would be many differnt sounds to trance. So there would be 100 trance nights going on everyweek in my town. (just like there is with house now)

trance wouldnt be the genre where every track sounded exactly the same except for a different melody.

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Originally posted by sshyperion I agree with the idea and reality that it's a paradox to have trance "mainstream" and "Underground". I think it's a cycle-based thing running over the years. One genre takes the scene, bloats and creates a mix of both good and arguably bad artists (remember there's no such thing as a definite bad artist; everyone's personal preferences in trance artists and any music artist will be different in a genre), then the genre deflates and goes into a more dormant and/or "original" state, with changes to it that can't be ignored, for better or worse. Anyways back to the original line of question and away from the personal attacks: should I have the fate of Trance in my hands, I'd make it more mainstream than it is currently, to a certain point. Assuming that fate control could last for a while then I'd mainstream it for a few years then have it recess, giving the starting artists a taste for what happens out there when they become mainstream and hold their integrity in check accordingly and change accordingly. We can't always be bent on having trance styles stay a certain way 'cause music is not like that. It's about commonality but not absolute commonality; one can't see this until it goes mainstream and sees what happens. I know it's a bit vague but I can write on for pages. Let Trance ascend mainstream status and we'll take it accordingly, then have it recede and go back to a starting point and see how it goes.

I agree, but to what point do u think it should go at???!?!? that's the question....

I think it should stay the way it is (to some extent), and just get BIG, WITHOUT all the commericalism coming into it... the only way i could think of doing that, would be to do what i said previously, in like, the first post of mine in this thread.

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Originally posted by Abhay I think it should stay the way it is (to some extent), and just get BIG, WITHOUT all the commericalism coming into it...

Past experiences make me say that impossible. There will always be people smelling money and jumping on it just to make some quick cash. Always.

Trance has many different forms. My personal favourite, is the type that leans more towards the psytrance side of music, but faster. This to me is my perfect trance, and I'd make the genre 'trance' only suitable for music of that kind. Then I'd move all the existing commercial trance over to something else.

South Africa's trance scene is still very 'underground', which is nice, but it's so bad that there aren't any real clubs that play it. When I speak to people about it, they are so misconcieved about it and they think I'm talking about Gwen Stefanie or whatever. It irritates the f&*k out of me. Trance needs to be globally known for what it REALLY is; it's uniqueness and not what commercial-listeners think it is.

The Prophet - The Word Of God (New Arch Mix) is my trance.

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