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Originally posted by b i n k u n i think all DJs should pay their dues....be it respecting the timeslot in both the music that should be played and the physical time that was assigned, or respecting other DJs and their equipment. Respect the scene, the music, the people involved...and everything would go much smoother. on the topic of being a trance DJ and having no tunes to warm-up a crowd with....i have the fortunate (but still unfortunate) experience of never opening a night. On the contrary, when i started having the few gigs that I did, i would always have to CLOSE the night...meaning timeslots from 6-8am and so forth. not fun, but after awhile, i got to know the promoter and could ask for earlier timeslots so now whenever i go play for him, i never start later then 3am. just to point out that it is still possible to get gigs without having warm-up tunes.

Aye, it's possible but you are one of the few who I know of that has actually managed to do that.

In my opinion however, there is a lot to be learned about the skill of DJing that you will only really be able to see if you do open a night. It is a very good experience and in my opinion you don't very often see good warm up DJs these days. Playing a good warm up set and getting the right effect on the dance floor is harder than playing the main slot. A good warm up will often have a possitive effect on the guy coming on after so it's a worth while skill to have.

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Aye, it's possible but you are one of the few who I know of that has actually managed to do that. In my opinion however, there is a lot to be learned about the skill of DJing that you will only really be able to see if you do open a night. It is a very good experience and in my opinion you don't very often see good warm up DJs these days. Playing a good warm up set and getting the right effect on the dance floor is harder than playing the main slot. A good warm up will often have a possitive effect on the guy coming on after so it's a worth while skill to have. Cheers Nem

i started off like this as well as a lot of my stuff was a lot harder than the iberican tribal being played in peru at that time.. i have since developed a wider range of tunes could play any spot, but was never forced to warm up..cept for the local hip hop djs.. ugh..

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Aye, it's possible but you are one of the few who I know of that has actually managed to do that. In my opinion however, there is a lot to be learned about the skill of DJing that you will only really be able to see if you do open a night. It is a very good experience and in my opinion you don't very often see good warm up DJs these days. Playing a good warm up set and getting the right effect on the dance floor is harder than playing the main slot. A good warm up will often have a possitive effect on the guy coming on after so it's a worth while skill to have. Cheers Nem

i kno...hence the:

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i have the fortunate (but still unfortunate) experience of never opening a night.

I agree though, and it was something that I read up on and got told repeatedly by other veteran DJs. I have all the respect for the good warm-up DJ...anybody nowadays can bang it out. But to achieve that right balance of energy without tipping the scales is a true skill.

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Originally posted by b i n k u n I agree though, and it was something that I read up on and got told repeatedly by other veteran DJs. I have all the respect for the good warm-up DJ...anybody nowadays can bang it out. But to achieve that right balance of energy without tipping the scales is a true skill.

Very well put I might add.

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Very well put I might add. Cheers Nem

thanks.

thought of another "taboo". pretty much just practical advice but it applies tenfold to the dj scene i think. stems from my own experiences in smaller local scenes...

Talking about other DJs behind their back.

reasons why i feel strongly against this:
1) the scene is small enough, what is said will undoubtedly travel and most likely bite you on your own ass.
2) you are hurting someone else's chance of being recognized because of your own possibly misjudged conception of them, your own jealousy against someone else's success, or something along those lines.
3) you are hurting your OWN chances of being recognized especially if all you do is put others down to make yourself look good.

Unless i'm personally asked to give MY judgement on someone's character, i usually don't put down another DJ. i mean, u meet so many characters on any given night, can you really judge them on that one experience where they ruined your needles or made a comment about your mixing? is another dj really "stupid" and a "bad dj" just cuz they didn't realize the xfader was left open when they were cue-ing?

and it's a horrible feeling to be misjudged and misunderstood. but don't get me wrong, there are plenty of people (promoters/djs/club owners) which you should rightfully warn others against, but make sure it is justified and not based on "a bad night".

just know that in this scene...people talk...a LOT. since so much of this is based on networking and getting to know people, having a good reputation before you meet people is always to your benefit.

my 2pence.

Excellent advice. I know it's something that I need to work on myself.

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Originally posted by Abhay hey, look at all that booze at the back.... did he really drink all that shit....? AND MIX?

the only thing he mixed together was the drinks.

oakie is one of the greatest ever. he made edm djing what it is today.

it looks like Armin has a huge bald patch in that pic

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Originally posted by b i n k u n thanks. thought of another "taboo". pretty much just practical advice but it applies tenfold to the dj scene i think. stems from my own experiences in smaller local scenes... Talking about other DJs behind their back. reasons why i feel strongly against this: 1) the scene is small enough, what is said will undoubtedly travel and most likely bite you on your own ass. 2) you are hurting someone else's chance of being recognized because of your own possibly misjudged conception of them, your own jealousy against someone else's success, or something along those lines. 3) you are hurting your OWN chances of being recognized especially if all you do is put others down to make yourself look good. Unless i'm personally asked to give MY judgement on someone's character, i usually don't put down another DJ. i mean, u meet so many characters on any given night, can you really judge them on that one experience where they ruined your needles or made a comment about your mixing? is another dj really "stupid" and a "bad dj" just cuz they didn't realize the xfader was left open when they were cue-ing? and it's a horrible feeling to be misjudged and misunderstood. but don't get me wrong, there are plenty of people (promoters/djs/club owners) which you should rightfully warn others against, but make sure it is justified and not based on "a bad night". just know that in this scene...people talk...a LOT. since so much of this is based on networking and getting to know people, having a good reputation before you meet people is always to your benefit. my 2pence.

excellent advice. people here in los angeles tend to be pretty candid about their opinions.

luckily i'm not involved in any politics.

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Aye, it's possible but you are one of the few who I know of that has actually managed to do that. In my opinion however, there is a lot to be learned about the skill of DJing that you will only really be able to see if you do open a night. It is a very good experience and in my opinion you don't very often see good warm up DJs these days. Playing a good warm up set and getting the right effect on the dance floor is harder than playing the main slot. A good warm up will often have a possitive effect on the guy coming on after so it's a worth while skill to have. Cheers Nem

hehehe... in my case, the only timeslot i get is the opening one. it's either the only one offered, or i ask for it. personally, i love it. especially coupled w/a longer set time. i enjoy building things up. i love to party, so i prefer to leave the "bang, bang, bang, boom, boom, boom" to someone else. actually, i like parties where there is just 2 maybe 3 djs. it really gives us the chance to really stretch out, and spread our wings.

i agree with the linking of 2 CDJs together for beatmatching. A BIG NO NO IMO is playing a pre-recorded set and playing it off like you are doing it live. i usually would say no to dropping the same track twice in a set, but on occasion i like to mix the same track but different remixes into one another.

if ur in the middle or beginning or your set and am told to get off becasue someone else just walked in always classic etiquette

i'm going to agree with nem again
a good warm-up dj is hard to find nowadays
everyone wants to be the next big thing

a good warm-up dj is worth their weight in gold
they know how to get the crowd groovin just enough to build the energy in the club but not to have the dancefloor packed, then just at the perfect time (last 2-4 songs) hammer it just right to entice people on the floor and get them starting to move

then the headliner just has to come in and knock em down

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Originally posted by Tony Morello a good warm-up dj is worth their weight in gold they know how to get the crowd groovin just enough to build the energy in the club but not to have the dancefloor packed, then just at the perfect time (last 2-4 songs) hammer it just right to entice people on the floor and get them starting to move

matt hardwick used to be the king of warm ups but theres not many djs like that about

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Originally posted by Psiweaver oakie is one of the greatest ever. he made edm djing what it is today.

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If EDM djing is made up of rock stars........,

Sure, he had lots to do with things early... but what has he done now?? When I saw him at a party here in Vancouver last year, he was too busy allegedly doing rails to put on a good show. Not once did he interact with the crowd (which was going apeshit), and as a matter a fact he said Vancouver is a 'meh' city or something along those lines. His set sucked too! I guess he was bitter because he was playing a 1500 person rave full of people that paid to see the almighty PAUL OAKENFOLD including myself?

The fact remains, Oakenfold is an asshole and its time we never see his face or hear his name again.
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sorry guys, as you were..

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Originally posted by sr126 hehehe... in my case, the only timeslot i get is the opening one. it's either the only one offered, or i ask for it. personally, i love it. especially coupled w/a longer set time. i enjoy building things up. i love to party, so i prefer to leave the "bang, bang, bang, boom, boom, boom" to someone else. actually, i like parties where there is just 2 maybe 3 djs. it really gives us the chance to really stretch out, and spread our wings.

Agree,
Never understand people that get tons of DJs to play a limited slot. I guess it comes down to the knowledge of the organiser.

Cheers
Nem

PS
Posts few and far between at the moment. I am actually in the Himalayas at the moment. So will catch up with you guys soon.

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Agree, Never understand people that get tons of DJs to play a limited slot. I guess it comes down to the knowledge of the organiser. Cheers Nem PS Posts few and far between at the moment. I am actually in the Himalayas at the moment. So will catch up with you guys soon.

It seems to happen a lot since promoters want to cash in all they can with as many different acts as possible. I'm speaking about smaller parties obviously without HUGE headliners and such. If say each DJ has a groupie of 20 people, then the promoter will want to book 6+ djs a night to get as many of the DJ following to come.

Of course, musically this never works out as you have each DJ come in and play for an hour and have a night of everything clashing without flow. UNLESS the promoters time it perfectly in regards to the DJ styles...and the DJs all stick to their styles.

At any rate, I'm not fond of these nights where DJs only play an hour or so...too much switching around musically for my tastes. sorry if my thoughts are a little disjointed...jetlagged. :P

PS: they have internet in the himalayas!?

Yeah but can you imagine having to listen to trance for more than an hour at a time.

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Originally posted by *~*Angelblue*~* if you want to blame someone for the "jesus pose" blame it on oakenfold.

I like the "Jesus Crucifixion Pose" that DJs do.

It shows me they mean business.

Here's what I can think of:

1. DJs getting too drunk / high during a set
2. Playing over your time
3. Playing too hard as an opener
4. Smoking over the equipment or setting your drink too close (we all know what happens..)
5. Jesus pose
6. Playing too many tracks by the same artist (even if you ARE that artist)
7. If you have lots of equipment, not taking it away after your set to make room for the next DJ
8. Talking to another DJ while they're mixing
9. Playing the song of an artist you're opening for
10. Wearing your headphones around your neck when not mixing (EDIT: Don't mean in the booth, but around the club solely to pick up woman or look cool)
11. "Manhandling" the club mixer / equipment
12. Putting the mixer DEEP into the red
13. Talking on the mic during your set (unless you're a mobile DJ etc..)

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Originally posted by Psiweaver oakie is one of the greatest ever. he made edm djing what it is today.

i agree.....back in the day a set from him really put the room in a different dimension

u rarely if ever get that these days

Yay another thread from the dead. 4 yrs this time lol.

At least you guys are using the search function I suppose

playing tracks produced by the guy you are opening for.

It amazes me how much people actually do this.

Re: DJ's Taboo

Yes, but that's not taboo. It's just plain idiotic.

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