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Originally posted by Shamez214 Reyes Beltran Delgado Wright Floyd Nady/Diaz Hernandez Jimenez

sounds like a group of men on a refugee ship looking for freedom u.s.a. from the nasty lives they had in their home country ... ..

and i don't know about bj ryan ... he's a hard baller, but for how long ?? mark prior and kerry wood were deft hard ballers, and look at them now .. constantly on the DL ..

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch sounds like a group of men on a refugee ship looking for freedom u.s.a. from the nasty lives they had in their home country ... ..

ah yes, baseball, the All American game

B.J. Ryan for 47 million... no I wouldn't want the Yankees to spend 47 million on a setup man. I remember the Steve Karsay 4 yr, 32 million dollar deal. Dude was done after one. I read all these Yankee fans clamoring for signing guys like this. Then I think to myself... what about the last 5 years have I missed? You simply can't cover up all your holes with free agent signings or make trades with a severly depleted farm system. Yanks dynasty was about homegrown stars, some key trades done when the farm system was built up, and careful free agent deals.

Personally, I'm not saddened by the inactivity of the Yanks. At least they aren't trying to be reactionary to the Red Sux and Mets moves. Focus on your own needs, not what other teams do.

Now if they go into next year with Bubba Crosby and Tanyon Sturtze as key cogs... then I might be a little worried. But I don't mind waiting for "2nd tier guys" that don't cost 47 million for 5 years who could break down in 1 year.

And about relievers... I'd rather play the game with acquiring more cheaper guys instead of a couple really expensive ones. Ok for the closer but not middle guys. Think of Paul Quantrill for 3 million a year. Rather.. spend $1 million each on three guys. Some won't work.. some will. But your best guys won't be spent out by October from overuse.

Then I read Yanks trying to sign Kyle Farnsworth. 100 mph heater and a meat head.

Mike Myers too... stealing from the Red Sux. ka ka ka kill kill kill

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch sounds like a group of men on a refugee ship looking for freedom u.s.a. from the nasty lives they had in their home country ... ...

And I'd take a team full of people from any country and any religion if they were good players.

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Originally posted by Shamez214 And I'd take a team full of people from any country and any religion if they were good players.

I've read that some people in baseball are concerned about the growing dearth in black players. Kind of interesting when you compare to basketball and football.

More MLB Rumors

Rays outfielder Joey Gathright and catcher Toby Hall are the primary topics of conversation, with the Marlins, Dodgers, Angels and Mets as possible trade partners. "We've had -- and we continue to have -- discussions with many teams about several of our players," Friedman said. "We're doing everything we can to win in 2006, but not to the detriment of 2007 and 2008." Read that to mean the Rays are seeking high-level, major-league-ready prospects in return for players like Gathright and Hall. Hall's name has been linked to the Mets. At the trade deadline last July, the Rays were interested in Mets pitcher Aaron Heilman (5-3, 3.17 ERA in 53 appearances). Another potential destination for the Rays' starting catcher is the Dodgers. Los Angeles has several minor-leaguers who interest Tampa Bay, including catchers Dioner Navarro and Russell Martin (.311 batting average, .430 on-base percentage for Double-A Jacksonville) and right-handed pitcher Chad Billingsley (13-6, 3.51 ERA for Jacksonville). Hall, who turned 30 on Oct. 21, is due to earn $3.5-4 million through arbitration.

Paul Lo Duca is set to make $6.25 million in 2006 and the team is dramatically trimming payroll. One option is to keep Lo Duca, a three-time All-Star, to assist the development of the pitchers. Finding quality catchers is very difficult throughout the league, increasing Lo Duca's value. But if the team does find a less expensive option, I'm sure they would explore trading Lo Duca. Another possibility is holding Lo Duca until the July trade deadline. The Marlins could see where they are in the standings, and if they aren't in contention, he could have prime trade value. That logic holds true if the club decides to keep Castillo and Pierre for now.

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Originally posted by Member of X I've read that some people in baseball are concerned about the growing dearth in black players. Kind of interesting when you compare to basketball and football.

I am one of those concerned. I wish there were more black ball players. Which is a partial reason why I do not want Milledge traded at all costs. I love black baseball players.

With teams like the Marlins unloading...


Why aren't teams or the RAYS trying to shop Carl Crawford???

Cause of his contract???? It's not that big... I'd love to see Crawford in a big market...

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Originally posted by King Ecnal With teams like the Marlins unloading... Why aren't teams or the RAYS trying to shop Carl Crawford??? Cause of his contract???? It's not that big... I'd love to see Crawford in a big market...

I LOVE Carl Crawford, one of my fav players outside of the Yankees. Here's a snippet from the Yankees website about that very question that I think answers it quite well:



What are the chances that the Yankees could make a trade for Carl Crawford?
-- James W., Yonkers, N.Y.

I get this question a lot, and I never understand where it comes from. Yes, the Devil Rays have a number of players in the outfield, including Crawford, Rocco Baldelli, Joey Gathright, Aubrey Huff, Jonny Gomes and Damon Hollins. But they also have position flexibility with some of these players, such as Huff's ability to play the corner infield spots, Hollins' play at third base and Gomes in the DH spot.

If Tampa Bay was going to deal any of these players, Huff would likely be the first to go, as he will be a free agent next year. Crawford signed a four-year, $15.25 million deal with the Rays last spring which will keep him in Tampa Bay through 2008.

Crawford, who is just 24, is set to earn $2.5 million in 2006, $4 million in 2007 and $5.25 million in 2008. A pretty good bargain for a player that has averaged more than 100 runs scored, 13 homers, 66 RBIs, 52 stolen bases and an average just under .300 in the past two seasons.

konerko resigns with the white sox.

smart move by him.

Carl Crawford is agreat player who i don't htink gets enough press due to playing in tampa and Baldelli is another speedster with a great glove who can cause havoc on the basepath

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch konerko resigns with the white sox. smart move by him.

I'm happy to see that, I like key guys giving the home discount. But makes sense, I wanted want to go to the Orioles either. Now LA? Well... if I was a famous rich ballplayer I'd probably go there. More chicks and hot weather.

$60M is a home-town discount? Yeesh.

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Originally posted by SlackerBoy9 Carl Crawford is agreat player who i don't htink gets enough press due to playing in tampa and Baldelli is another speedster with a great glove who can cause havoc on the basepath

i also like julio lugo and jorge cantu .. a lineup of cantu, lugo, crawford, huff, and baldelli for hitting is pretty decent .. i also like johnny gomes ..

with pitching, i liked how kazmir progessed through the year, and the development of baez as a closer .. if these players are intact for another 3 to 4 years, look out for tampa .. especially with new york and boston's players starting to age , and the youth of tampa maturing .

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Originally posted by Shamez214 $60M is a home-town discount? Yeesh.

5 million at least, that's all. Yeah I couldn't live with 5 million...

Konerko is a mediocre ball player... I'm glad he cashed in on his great play during the playoffs and WS... but he's being overpaid beyond belief!

My prediction for him next year is .256 avg and 35 HR's. No, that's not worth $12 million a year.

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Originally posted by Member of X My prediction for him next year is .256 avg and 35 HR's. No, that's not worth $12 million a year.

I think that's about dead on...

I just realized, they got Thome and Konerko now... hmmm...

Baez is a terrible closer. Terrible. He's Danny Kolb waiting to happen.

hmm castillo has been traded to the twins shoring up their infield and they are supposedly on the verge of signing frank thomas...real interesting moves
also read that the Mets are preparing to trade Kris Benson to the Orioles for Jorge Julio

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Originally posted by SlackerBoy9 also read that the Mets are preparing to trade Kris Benson to the Orioles for Jorge Julio

That deal's been squashed, I believe. Supposedly, there's more value for Benson than Omar anticipated.

Thank you lord!!!!!

The wheeling-and-dealing New York Mets crossed another need off their 2006 wish list, acquiring All-Star catcher Paul Lo Duca from the Florida Marlins in exchange for two minor league pitchers, the New York Daily News reported on its Web site.


It would be the second deal between the Mets and Marlins this offseason, with Florida sending slugging first baseman Carlos Delgado to New York last month. The Mets also signed free-agent closer Billy Wagner, giving Mets general manager Omar Minaya a player at every postition he said was a priority.


Lo Duca, 33, was an All-Star in each of the past three seasons. He will be taking the place of Mike Piazza, a sure Hall of Fame player and, like Lo Duca, a former Dodger. Lo Duca hit .283 with six homers and 57 RBI for the Marlins in 2005.

The Mets will send 19-year-old right-hander Gabriel Hernandez and another minor leaguer pitcher to be named, the Daily News reported.

Ugh ugh ugh. I really like Gaby Hernandez.

I mean... Lo Duca gets 12.5M these next two years. Why not just throw 7 mill at Ramon Hernandez for 3 years? Ramon is better and younger. I'm really begining to hate Omar. "Hey... we have a prospect... LET'S TRADE HIM!!!" If he trades Milledge, I'll really be upset. Then again, I almost cried when they traded Kazmir, so, I'm a bit of a Prospect Whore.

Maybe they throw Lo Duca to the D-Backs for Vasquez.

I don't understand your fascination with Vasquez, I think he sucks and will continue to do so. The numbers don't lie... I wouldn't want him on my fantasy team at all. His ERA would kill my team.

I'd rather have Paul Byrd like the Indians got or Kevin Millwood or someone like that.

I don't understand your fascination with being dumb.

There's also speculation that Lo Duca + someone goes to the Dodgers for Jeff Kent. Do it Omar... and I'll be oh so much happier about this deal.

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