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if people werent so fucking scared of drugs, especially E then alot more people would go to dance events. The clubbing industry should invest in some PR to improve the image of ecstasy

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Originally posted by slinkyhead if people werent so fucking scared of drugs, especially E then alot more people would go to dance events. The clubbing industry should invest in some PR to improve the image of ecstasy

improve the image of ecstasy !?!?
E is really bad !!! most people who start taking it they do it more and more often with higher dosage every time (i do it too). so how to improve the image of ecstasy !?!?!
E can be really good and helpful if used properly !
and the after effects are really bad, some people do very deep depressions on the comedown !
I like E, but i say moderation is the key !

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Originally posted by allen ok guys... any one familiar with ways to over come the comedowns other than thc ofcorse?

I know people who never or hardly ever get a bad comedown I guess its to do with how you take, how much, how clean your pills are, etc. as well as your state of mind. If you are not in a superb mood without anything and then take an E at a night out for that extra dimension then when you come down the difference with reality is too great hence for some people a more negative psychological comedown.

Of course it also depends on the purity of your pill and whether it contains any other substances too. Plus how much you take and how often you take and whether you take any supplements or not, eat healthily (lots of minerals & vitamins in fruits & veggies), how fit you are, etc. etc.

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Originally posted by aria_clubber improve the image of ecstasy !?!? E is really bad !!! most people who start taking it they do it more and more often with higher dosage every time (i do it too). so how to improve the image of ecstasy !?!?! E can be really good and helpful if used properly ! and the after effects are really bad, some people do very deep depressions on the comedown ! I like E, but i say moderation is the key !

Yeps, like I said before, moderation and self-control, and proper usage (5htp, vitamin c, r+ala), have your pills tested (Marquis, Mecke, Mandelin, etc. reagents) or even better lab-tested (Holland).

And with E its usually the case "less is more" Depending of course on your tolerance, metabolism, body weight etc. doing pills with a higher dose of mdma (120mg+) or several of those pills at the same time will affect your experience too, less loved-up'ness, more speediness., worse come down some times.

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Originally posted by aria_clubber improve the image of ecstasy !?!? E is really bad !!! most people who start taking it they do it more and more often with higher dosage every time (i do it too). so how to improve the image of ecstasy !?!?! E can be really good and helpful if used properly ! and the after effects are really bad, some people do very deep depressions on the comedown ! I like E, but i say moderation is the key !

exactly - educate people about it. Most of the people that end of hurting themselves by it are in the deep end.

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Originally posted by Radagast Likely much less than it does now, left unregulated and a lot of times laced with stuff that will kill you. Non-sequitur fallacy. Intoxication kills, and lung cancer kills, and alcohol and cigarrettes are legal, but there is no proof that one is in any way causal or related to the other. In fact there is proof that legalizing them might decrease problems, for during the alcohol prohibition period in America, crime as well as alcohol abuse both increased. "Prohibition ended in 1933 because the nation's most influential people, as well as the general public, acknowledged that it had failed. It had increased lawlessness and drinking and aggravated alcohol abuse." - Thomas M. Coffey, author of THE LONG THIRST-PROHIBITION IN AMERICA: 1920-1933 One, if all drugs were regulated by the government, users wouldn't have to worry about drugs laced with cyanide and shit. Well over half of drug related deaths in America are due to highly toxic things being put into the drugs. Legalizing drugs would save more lives than it could possibly take. Two, the billions of dollars currently going into the pockets of drug lords could be going to the government, and subsequently, the improvement of everyone's lives through the increased revenues. Three, the millions(billions) of dollars currently going into trying to prevent drug use could be used for other, more productive things, like drug treatment and rehabilitation. Yet in Amsterdam, where Marijuana is legal, it is used less frequently than in the United States on average. The bottom line is, trying to actively prevent drug use has never worked and will never work. America can't even keep its own prison inmates from using illegal drugs, much less the general public. "The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be... Try to make people moral, and you lay the groundwork for vice." - Lao-tsu "Vices are simply the errors which a man makes in search after his own happiness. In vices, the very essence of crime--that is, the design to injure the person or property of another--is wanting." - Lysander Spooner

I agree with you.

Qoute - improve the image of ecstasy !?!?
E is really bad !!! most people who start taking it they do it more and more often with higher dosage every time (i do it too). so how to improve the image of ecstasy !?!?!
E can be really good and helpful if used properly !
and the after effects are really bad, some people do very deep depressions on the comedown !
I like E, but i say moderation is the key !

Umm ....I'm just curious as to how long u have actually done E? I'm just curious, not trying to be a dick or anything, its not everyday people are so frank with their use.

Its a common misperception. I told my buddies at work about going to a trance club for the first time on saturday.. and they all asked "was everyone on E.. blah blah"... kinda sucks. I have no intentions of doing any sort of drugs (plan to work in Government) but I love trance just groove to good beats. Bleh, I guess, in the US anyway, the genre is so small that a majority of people are just ignorant to it. Whatever I guess

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Originally posted by Gillis maximus Qoute - improve the image of ecstasy !?!? E is really bad !!! most people who start taking it they do it more and more often with higher dosage every time (i do it too). so how to improve the image of ecstasy !?!?! E can be really good and helpful if used properly ! and the after effects are really bad, some people do very deep depressions on the comedown ! I like E, but i say moderation is the key ! Umm ....I'm just curious as to how long u have actually done E? I'm just curious, not trying to be a dick or anything, its not everyday people are so frank with their use.

7months, and only at clubs !

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Originally posted by Rockabye +1 It's a strange world where drugs like alcohol and tobacco that make so many people ill and kill them finally are allowed and drugs that have no negativ effect on the health of someone like marihuana are forbidden

I beg to differ ^^
http://www.weedguru.com/agamed.php
http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html
http://www.innerbody.com/text/drug17.html
http://web4health.info/en/answers/a...s-long-term.htm

Would you like more sources? Before you talk like you know a drug make sure you understand it first

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Originally posted by Synthesia I know people who never or hardly ever get a bad comedown I guess its to do with how you take, how much, how clean your pills are, etc. as well as your state of mind. If you are not in a superb mood without anything and then take an E at a night out for that extra dimension then when you come down the difference with reality is too great hence for some people a more negative psychological comedown.

I think a person's neurological make-up plays the biggest part.

I've never had a comedown in 8 years of, at times very high, use.

I've always been a naturally happy and cheerful person, no issues of any sort, and one of my good friends is the same, and also never gets comedowns.

I reckon this more than purity based on me and other mates doing the same pills, me often in slightly higher doses due to my tolerance, and they would get comedowns, and I still wouldn't.

This was before I even started to buy 5htp, which I solely use to replanish serotonin supplies to ensure I can still get wankered the next time I take.

I don't excercise at all, but I do have a fairly healthy diet, and take multi-vitamin supplements, so they prolly have a positive impact as well.

As for comedowns, turkey, bananas, honey, cinnamon, brocolli and complex carbohydrates all help, and plenty of water as alot of the crappy feeling is initially exhuastion and dehydration.

5htp also is an obvious aid.

Play safe children

where con i find some 5htp ??

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Originally posted by aria_clubber where con i find some 5htp ??

dunno in canada, google it

Techno & Cocaine > Trance & X

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Originally posted by aria_clubber 7months, and only at clubs !

u havent been doing it long enough it will catch up with u eventually the first year or 2 is the best u think that u will never get any problems from drug taking.

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Originally posted by Ultravibe! Techno & Cocaine > Trance & X

not sure where u got that assumption from

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Originally posted by Rockabye uhm...I think Crystal Meth do it better than Cocaine and is much cheaper

Crystal Meth, is this what we call Speed ?

The big advantage of Cocaine is that you don't feel so rotten the day after.

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Originally posted by Ultravibe! Crystal Meth, is this what we call Speed ? The big advantage of Cocaine is that you don't feel so rotten the day after.

no it isnt crystal meth is stronger
www.urban75.com/Drugs/meth.html

and when i took cocaine the day after i felt so shit and down its the worse drugs ive had for after effects

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Originally posted by sleepydragon no it isnt crystal meth is stronger www.urban75.com/Drugs/meth.html and when i took cocaine the day after i felt so shit and down its the worse drugs ive had for after effects

then you had bad yayo, good yayo has no after effects, which is why most people switch from pills to it later in their clubbing lives.

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Originally posted by Rockabye uhm...I think Crystal Meth do it better than Cocaine and is much cheaper

Dont do Meth. Its worst drug ever, very synthetic and will take you down faster than you think.



The faces of Meth

lol, some of the after-pictures looks better than the before ones

Ya I think you're right kr00ts

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Originally posted by aria_clubber where con i find some 5htp ??

Even Amazon has it

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Originally posted by Gillis maximus Qoute - improve the image of ecstasy !?!? E is really bad !!! most people who start taking it they do it more and more often with higher dosage every time (i do it too). so how to improve the image of ecstasy !?!?! E can be really good and helpful if used properly ! and the after effects are really bad, some people do very deep depressions on the comedown ! I like E, but i say moderation is the key ! Umm ....I'm just curious as to how long u have actually done E? I'm just curious, not trying to be a dick or anything, its not everyday people are so frank with their use.

8 years

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Originally posted by kr00t0n then you had bad yayo, good yayo has no after effects, which is why most people switch from pills to it later in their clubbing lives.

well i did mix it with other drugs so that cant have helped lol

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Originally posted by sleepydragon well i did mix it with other drugs so that cant have helped lol

hahaha, you foo!

you can never comment on a single drugs after effects unless you have had only that drug, mixing things gives various, and often interesting, results

Crystal meth is some addicting shit, from what I understand. Now, I've never taken the stuff, but I remember reading that it has THE worst recovery rate than any other drug. The experience I've heard from one person was this: it lifts you so so high, it makes you want to keep doing more and more so the letdown is tremendous. Your body craves it... though the person said he finally got off of it, but it wasn't easy.

I realize this might not be everyone's respose to it, but it was someone's... so watch out.

And we should legalize pot and tax the shit out of it.

I'm done

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