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Posted by King Ecnal on Mar-23-2006 01:15:

Why would any team sign Brian Griese for 5 years...???

oh wait it's the bears.... that's why...


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Mar-23-2006 01:59:

imo about the colts , i think they took a step down as a team . i don't think a combination of rbs (rhodes, mungro, fill in name here) can compare to what edge gave to the colts . edge , on a good day, could be easily be compared to tomlinson, alexander, and portis.

imo about the raiders, should this be an upgrade or a downgrade ? kerry collins can have those sketchy days now and again, throwing 3 tds one day, and 5 ints the next, but aaron brooks is more sketchier than collins. brooks not only throws the interceptions, but he helps you see those negative numbers as total yards during a game. i don't see any success with aaron brooks at oakland.

imo about the bears and brain griese , i have mixed feelings about this. obviously this guy has some talent, since his dad has a couple of rings, right ? or maybe he needs what his dad got when he was playing with miami .... some power running backs to support him ? (kiick, morris, and csonka) ? well the a-train and benson certainly could help him somewhat, and hopefully muhammad would show up next year for the bears .


Posted by SlackerBoy9 on Mar-23-2006 02:00:

I think if Brooks is given the freedom to roll out and make plays like he did in his first 2 years he can be succesful with The raiders


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Mar-23-2006 02:06:

hate to put the pats under a microscope, but according to the FA list, they have lost

Andre Davis
Tim Dwight
Christian Fauria
David Givens
Willie Mcginist
Tyrone Poole
Adam Vinateri

and released

Chad Brown
Duane Starks


and a big name that is currently unrestricted is Tom Ashworth (offensive lineman) .

some big names to fill, and some key role players that helped the team last year.

they still have deion branch and bethel johnson, but they can only do so much for tom brady.


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Mar-23-2006 02:17:

quote:
Originally posted by SlackerBoy9
I think if Brooks is given the freedom to roll out and make plays like he did in his first 2 years he can be succesful with The raiders


maybe so. maybe the saints pretty much sucked because our offensive coordinator was Mike Sheppard , and he knew jack about "the west coast offense" . during the good days (early 2000 - 2002) , it was Mike McCarthy, who did a good job with handling brooks, before moving on to better things.


Posted by tribu on Mar-23-2006 04:02:

What's wrong with Griese? He went 5-1 last year and had alot to do with why Chris Simms took the Bucs to the playoffs. Griese played under Elway and is only 31. Im not sure they expect him to stay for all 5 years but he is a good move for a team that would have been awesome last year if they could score points. If he can lead them to a Super Bowl he can ride off into the sunset or try to negotiate another deal later on. Grossman or Orton have to improve sometime...


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Mar-23-2006 04:12:

quote:
Originally posted by tribu
What's wrong with Griese? He went 5-1 last year and had alot to do with why Chris Simms took the Bucs to the playoffs. Griese played under Elway and is only 31. Im not sure they expect him to stay for all 5 years but he is a good move for a team that would have been awesome last year if they could score points. If he can lead them to a Super Bowl he can ride off into the sunset or try to negotiate another deal later on. Grossman or Orton have to improve sometime...


i give credit where credit is due what griese has done in the past @ denver and @ tampa . i do think he is a step above grossman and orton (put together obviously) . however, i can't downplay much about grossman, because he has just been hit with bad luck early in his career. as for kyle orton, that's another story. i don't want to pop out a "clean up in aisle 5" quote for him, because i know this guy has some talent in him .. he's a tall agile quarterback that sometimes makes slow decisions .. the good thing is that he doesn't make mistakes (ala kerry collins and aaron brooks)


Posted by King Ecnal on Mar-23-2006 05:22:

quote:
Originally posted by LeopoldStotch

they still have deion branch and bethel johnson, but they can only do so much for tom brady.


Pats signed Reche Caldwell - And I loved him two years ago when he had those crazy fantasy outings... And ANY WR will thrive with Tom Brady, I love this signing...

PLUS, Keyshawn and possibly Moulds are on the market...

Fauria was a great tool, always seemed to make a big TD catch when called upon... but its Ben Watson's time... and Daniel Graham... no worries there...

Willie McGinest, god love him for the past, but he's old, if they re-signed him I would have been pissed... got Roosevelt and Vrabel... no need for the old man willie...

And.... a week of free agency.....and we got the draft in a few.... no worries...


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Mar-23-2006 05:54:

quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal
Pats signed Reche Caldwell - And I loved him two years ago when he had those crazy fantasy outings... And ANY WR will thrive with Tom Brady, I love this signing...

PLUS, Keyshawn and possibly Moulds are on the market...

Fauria was a great tool, always seemed to make a big TD catch when called upon... but its Ben Watson's time... and Daniel Graham... no worries there...

Willie McGinest, god love him for the past, but he's old, if they re-signed him I would have been pissed... got Roosevelt and Vrabel... no need for the old man willie...

And.... a week of free agency.....and we got the draft in a few.... no worries...


you better hope someone else doesn't woo tom ashworth out of new england .. hahahaha ... i think he is the anchor in that very underrated , but top 3, offensive line groups in the nfl right now .. they are developed and know each other very well .

as for ben watson and daniel graham .. great tight ends . not comparable to the tennessee titans' duo tight ends, but they are sufficient in what they do .

as for reche caldwell, wow. this guy is another speedster to add to the already fast wide receiver crew. i don't think ol' bill would pick up keyshawn. maybe moulds, because it seems bill belichick likes to get "deep threat" receivers rather than "possession" receivers.


Posted by King Ecnal on Mar-23-2006 06:53:

yeah I don't want Keyshawn....

which is why today wasn't too hot hearing......"Keyshawn and Vanderjagt coming to town to visit...."

Moulds is Moulds... he would be a great fit... Moulds can be Corey Dillon Version 2.0.... come here and revive your career after getting shafted on your old team!


Posted by King Ecnal on Mar-23-2006 19:06:

Cowboys sign Mike Vanderjagt


can't wait to watch this team...


two hotheads in Vandy and TO... gotta love it!


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Mar-24-2006 00:25:

quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal
Cowboys sign Mike Vanderjagt


can't wait to watch this team...


two hotheads in Vandy and TO... gotta love it!


mixed with a hothead like bill parcells, a enigma like drew bledsoe, and a money greedy owner jerry jones.

2006 is going to be real interesting for the cowboys ..


Posted by Kapedano on Mar-24-2006 01:47:

Redskins will win the NFC East, too much hype about the cowboys, there always is really, like last year, and look where they ended up.


Posted by SlackerBoy9 on Mar-24-2006 01:53:

Seahawks reportedly have come to terms on a contract with Tom ashworth free agent tackle of the Patriots
Tampa Bay Bucs have reportedly come to terms with Cb Charles Woodson...Bucs can't stop any pass rushers across the o- line so what do they do ..sign another corner


Posted by Spartan on Mar-24-2006 01:54:

Vandy's one time flare up w/ the Indy press I'm sure won't cause any problems in big D, and if he does express himself it won't even be noticable compared to what TO brings to the table in terms of filth.

Although I believe that TO is a better fit in Dallas than he has been anywhere else. Drew Bledsoe is an extremely competitive QB which is just what TO needs.

Plus in Dallas it is Bill Parcells team, not the quarterback's, unlike the situation in Philly. So even if he and Bledsoe fight every now and then (which they will) it won't dismantle the team like it did last year.

I think he is going to help Dallas much more than he hurts them, as I still have him pegged as the currently #1 most talented receiver over Randy Moss and Steve Smith...by a loooooooooooot.


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Mar-24-2006 03:16:

quote:
Originally posted by SlackerBoy9
Seahawks reportedly have come to terms on a contract with Tom ashworth free agent tackle of the Patriots
Tampa Bay Bucs have reportedly come to terms with Cb Charles Woodson...Bucs can't stop any pass rushers across the o- line so what do they do ..sign another corner


wow.
sorry Ecnal. looks like the anchor is leaving the pats.

and as for charles woodson, it doesn't make any sense. i can't believe how much of a difference warren sapp could be to the bucs front 4. he was barely producing anything on the field, but his prescence on the field scared many offensive lineman i guess.

and for to , i am counting the days until to gets on bill parcells face, and parcells tells him to sit his ass down on the bench.


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Mar-24-2006 03:29:

keyshawn johnson has agreed to terms with the carolina panthers, which could be a good fit for the both of them. one weakness carolina has shown since muhammad left is that they don't have a possession receiver. someone who can eat the clock, and stretch the chains. well keyshawn could give them that option, along with steve smith going deep and running the screen plays.

carolina looks very dangerous next year, by adding just 1 player to their team.


Posted by fortyfour on Mar-24-2006 23:26:

That, and Keyshawn is a great blocker too - it'd help in opening up the running game as well. I Panthers just re-signed Foster too, so now they've got three threats to keep an eye on. Great move on the part to take some of the pressure off of Smith - I mean, the dude was always double-coveraged and still had a monster year - now with Keyshawn in the mix, it'll open up the passing game even more. Colbert is still young, so allowing him to grow as the third WR, maybe even a slot WR, will be a great way for him to grow.

They're saying Arrington is going to be making a second trip to Miami Thomas and Arrington - wow, should be fun to watch :P

Personally, I think TO is better then Moss too - attitudes aside, TO is just more imposing then Moss is. TO has the ability to break tackles and make the deep run, opening up a shorter game that Moss cannot provide. Moss isn't as physical as TO - while he does have amazing athletic ability to make incredible arial catches - TO brings more of a physical package to the field then Moss does. But then again, I'm not really a fan of Randy Moss anyway :P

On another note, who would you guys consider as the best RB in the game today? Not just stats-wise, but what he brings as a player.
If it was up to me, I'd say LT hands-down. Man that guy has the speed and the moves to break ankles - and the guy throws a neat spiral to boot!

I miss football

44


Posted by Spartan on Mar-25-2006 21:28:

LT no question, he is extremely dangerous if he can break the first tackle (which he does extremely often), as in the open field he jukes and jives like Barry Sanders.

I also respect how whenever he is about to go down, he always dives head first to pick up those few extra yards.

Not to mention FAST


Posted by DigDeep on Mar-27-2006 17:16:

quote:
Originally posted by fortyfour
They're saying Arrington is going to be making a second trip to Miami Thomas and Arrington - wow, should be fun to watch :P


you forgot to mention taylor


Posted by DigDeep on Mar-27-2006 20:11:

Steelers, Dolphins highlight 2006 opener


Sports Ticker

3/27/2006 1:47:39 PM

NEW YORK (Ticker) - The Pittsburgh Steelers will begin their title defense by hosting the Miami Dolphins and new quarterback Daunte Culpepper.

The NFL on Monday announced its 2006 Kickoff Weekend schedule, highlighted by the Steelers-Dolphins matchup on new television partner NBC on Thursday, September 7 (on TSN).

That Sunday, the Jacksonville Jaguars will host the Dallas Cowboys on Fox and the Indianapolis Colts will visit the New York Giants (on TSN).

The latter matchup will feature 30-year-old Colts quarterback Peyton Manning taking on his younger brother, 25-year-old Giants quarterback Eli. It will be the first time in NFL history that brothers will start at quarterback against each other.

ESPN will televise the first "Monday Night Football" doubleheader a day later, with the Washington Redskins hosting the Minnesota Vikings and the San Diego Chargers visiting AFC West rival the Oakland Raiders.

The Vikings and Raiders will be playing their first games under new coaches, Brad Childress and Art Shell, respectively.

The NFL also announced the first Thanksgiving tripleheader, with Miami visiting the Detroit Lions on CBS, followed by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Dallas on Fox and the Denver Broncos at AFC West rival the Kansas City Chiefs on the NFL Network. All Thanksgiving games are also on TSN.


Posted by Spartan on Mar-28-2006 18:21:

is the MNF going to be two games at once? or two games back to back?

and what is TSN? TUrner sports network? I hope I get this channel...


Posted by SlackerBoy9 on Mar-28-2006 23:22:

Both games will start at different time but i believe will overlap on Monday night football


Posted by fortyfour on Mar-29-2006 01:45:

I think the TSN mentioned there might be The (Toronto :P) Sports Network here in Canada. It sucks - it's very Toronto biased

I'm almost happy Brooks signed with Oakland - while he did throw a ton of INTs in New Orleans, the guy can still play - he can throw on the run (eh, backwards sometimes isn't all that good), but he can also throw deep. With Moss and Porter, it should be fun to watch. That, and according to ESPN, he's going in pretty cheap too - only a two year contract.

44


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Mar-29-2006 02:31:

quote:
Originally posted by fortyfour
I think the TSN mentioned there might be The (Toronto :P) Sports Network here in Canada. It sucks - it's very Toronto biased

I'm almost happy Brooks signed with Oakland - while he did throw a ton of INTs in New Orleans, the guy can still play - he can throw on the run (eh, backwards sometimes isn't all that good), but he can also throw deep. With Moss and Porter, it should be fun to watch. That, and according to ESPN, he's going in pretty cheap too - only a two year contract.

44


good luck with him on the Oakland squad. . but really, if you look at it on paper, the Raiders really do have a talented squad with Brooks at qb, Jordan at rb, Moss and Porter at wr, and Curry at te, hopefully where no one is hurt . but hopefully brooks can pick up some good qb habits at oakland, where imo didnt pick up didly at new orleans .


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