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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 The pills I have been using have been exactly like you describe above. A high of 2-3 hours, no seeing stuff, etc...and a gradual come down. But the "pure mdma capsule" I took on NYE was, although similar, just far too intense. I DID see some weird stuff...wavy lines and everything looked like it was on an angle or something. I woke up still very buzzed and the lathargy lasted for over a week. I was told that I just took too much mdma but who knows. I'm not down with seeing stuff...I just like the body and emotional buzz of good e's. I"m a little worried though because my regular source is out of commission right now...and only a week to go. this crystal shit scares me. I dont' want any part of that. How would I know it's crystal as opposed to mdma?

The fact your energy levels didn't come back up for nearly a week could be caused by a few things. a) your appeitite, did you eat well the day of dropping and I'm willing to bet you didn't get a lot of food in the day afterwards. This can be made worse if b) the pills were cut with a very strong percentage of an amphetamine which surpresses your appeitite and can lead you to exhert more energy over the course of the night than you other wise would have. Think of the regularly running 4 km for excersise, that night you did a marathon. Most people 'catch up' on sleep with in one nights 'regular' sleep but the problem with pills cut with strong amphetamine is that they tend to stay in the blood stream longer than other drugs and even as trace elements they distrupt your short wave sleeping cycle. Your short wave sleep cycle is non REM sleep and so far has been proven to be the most recuprative of the 4 sleep phases. People who sleep less regularly tend to have a higher percentage of short wave sleep so they recuperate the same as someone who sleeps longer.
All this being said, you likely took MDA on NYE if you had visuals and it came on that intense. pure MDMA, unless taken in larger than averge doeses, should not make you feel that like it came up that strong and should not create visual effects until you are way way over your limit (at this point the visuals are likely caused by neuro toxicity). MDA often does come up stronger and then level out a bit later.
The crystal won't hurt you "persay" in small quantities in pills. Chances are that if you have done pills on a few occasions, I'd say about 1/2 were likely cut with it to provide your source of kick ass energy in combination with your MDMA or MDA. It's cheap and in small amounts makes party people happy to still have energy (Mashy pill vs Speedy pill debate).
Obviously no one likes to be sketcy the next day, but your only ways of avoiding pills cut with crystal is to A) not do pills, or B) get a testing kit or send them out for testing. FDA does not allow labs to report the % of a chemical found in the pill but they do release the data as WHAT was found in it and they can be submitted annoynomously (but you have to give up a pill and as of now pay the lab fee)(so basically, just get a testing kit). A testing kit will merely tell you if it is pure or not. Some testing kits are advanced enough now to detect traces of other elements (ie MDA) and can used to infer other chemicals (ie if the strip changes no color at all it likely has PMA in it instead).
Also keep in mind a lot of your sketchyness is likely to also be caused from having been up all night sleep deprived and listening to 144 bpm 4/4 beats! Your immune system is off gaurd and the likely hood of catching a small bug (especially in winter) is high, this could also contribute to why it took you a week to recover. Another element that has been speculated on are your natual Cicadian Sleeping paterns are greatly thrown out of wack by staying up all night. Think about flying westward from Tokyo to Toronto, you are going to feel like crap due to jet lag producing a 10 hour phase shift in your daily paterns.
Remember that there are no ethics in drug dealing. Unless he is your buddy from kindergarden remain skeptical from batch to batch (I would still question my buddy from kindergarden, although likely trust him a bit more than others). I also recomend only doing max one pill at a time and waiting about an hour before taking another one (maybe even only a half pill at a time to play it really safe), that way by the time you have enough in your body to start feeling the effects the come up will be softer and more gradual and you won't feel like your peaking as hard should it MDA instead of MDMA in the pill, it will also wear off more gradually because of the time it takes each bit to metabolize in the body. It is also a good idea in case you took something you shouldn't have, it will give you time to go get help before you are in real trouble should the god forbid ever happen.
Hope that helps a bit.

One other thing to keep in mind is pre-loading and post loading which I will post info about up later on this afternoon. Pre-loading and post loading before doing pills can greatly improve the high you experience and make the come down feel much softer while also allowing you to get better slow wave sleep the night after (which will make you feel much better the next day when you wake up)
Edit: I don't mean pre-loading with E, I mean other natuaral substances available at general health food stores which will better protect your serotonin levels. (ex 5-htp, L-Tyrosine....)

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Originally posted by nusty MDA often does come up stronger and then level out a bit later.

thanks for that reply! Yeah...it was most probably MDA then, because it hit me like a ton of bricks and kept coming in waves and waves, some manageable and subtle, others very violent and strong. It wasn't a "bad" experience, but something I just didn't want in a club environment. For the first two hours, I didn't want to dance...I actually had to leave and ride out the initial "attack" in my buddy's car as he stayed with me to make sure everything was ok. Then as is started to wear off, I got the energy buzz and felt great for a very long time. Even when I woke up after a short 4 hour sleep, I was still buzzing until later that night and then felt like crap for a week. I suspected it wasn't pure MDMA, even though my source insisted it was and that it simply wasn't a "club drug". I dont' think I"ll be doing any type of capsule again though.

I"ve been considering getting a testing kit for awhile too, but I dont' do E very often now and I'd never get into dealing anything. (it's not worth it). But depending on how expenisve they are, it might be a good investment. I also make sure I eat a pretty healthy meal before I party...lots of juice, protein and vegetables. And I pile on the orange juice and cranberry juice, as well as water, upon comedown and the next few days. I just would hate, for Decadence, to get a shitty batch from somebody who I know has good chach (i'm not big into that one though), but E is entirely different. This particular source is Asian so that whole Triad thing is a bit of a concern.

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