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Originally posted by El Kay Dee why cant we have parties on saturdays and sundays taht start at say noon at least in the summer time. and maybe end around midnight or so? this way the bar will be open and it falls in regular sleep schedule. i know that there are sunset parties all over the world on the beach and all and well we might not have beaches around here but we could maybe have something along those lines

Thats what I would really like. I do find it very hard to stay awake for the entirety of a night, especially for big events.

I would love parties during sunset out doors.

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Originally posted by Floorwhore simple. electronica was made popular at places called NIGHTCLUBS. and thats where it will stay.

and while the rest of the nightclubs close at 3am, EDM clubs are too cool and MUST go on till 9am

WOOOOO IM HARDCORE COS I GO ON FOR 23423432453 HOURS YEAAAAAAAAAA

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Originally posted by spitty many people are able to party at guv stone sober and enjoy it. honestly, the hardest thing about doing a full night (11pm till close) sober is getting hungry. once i managed to convince door ppl to let me bring in food, sober is easybreeezy. i'm not a sober partier, but a good friend of mine asked me once, if i couldn't party without the drugs, why was i partying at all?

Don't get me wrong, I can party sober (I don't often make a late night out of it anymore as I can't deal with screwing my sleep schedule that much) - but sober or not, the crowd at the guv drives me insane. Music and drugs aside, I can't stand being around the people who frequent the guvernment. they are rude, pushy, disgusting, inconsiderate, and yes I am generalizing.

Jeff, I don't think it's unfair that people would like a headliner to come on before 4am. For people who lead 9-5 jobs, and don't work a retail or a bar/restaurant job and have to keep day hours M-F, staying up til 4am on a Friday night for the headliner to come on is near impossible without drugs since you've already been up since 6am Friday morning.

If you think the club crowd is overrun with drug use...the shit that goes on behind the decks is even more crazy. and expected, at times. I once didn't show to a club for a 6:30am set until 5am because I was sleeping. the owner looked at me like I should have been there all night. Sorry! I don't feel like being a total fucking sketchbag for my set.

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Originally posted by Orko Thats what I would really like. I do find it very hard to stay awake for the entirety of a night, especially for big events. I would love parties during sunset out doors.

I'd just want them to put mroe fo them outdoors period. I get so sick of the stale, smoke-filled air at the clubs that it almost ruins the ngith regularly.

During the day is a bit extreme because we'd all be baking under the sun in 30 degree weather, but if they started at like 6 or 7 and went to 3 or 4, that would be perfect.

and Floorwhore, I'd like to amke the distinction that Electronic parties have been banished to the nightclubs, especially since the mid-90s.

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Originally posted by El Kay Dee and while the rest of the nightclubs close at 3am, EDM clubs are too cool and MUST go on till 9am WOOOOO IM HARDCORE COS I GO ON FOR 23423432453 HOURS YEAAAAAAAAAA

I dont spend 1 hour driving to Toronto and spend $15 or $20 on cover (plus gas to drive)...

Just so I can party for 2 hours.

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Originally posted by Crazy Serb i am one of those people who is sick and tired of watching most of my friends using and misusing the chemicals... maybe one of the reasons why I am nowhere to be seen at these special events (let alone regular clubbing nights in some places).

I'm in a similar situation. Many of my friends keep asking me why I don't come out to parties anymore. I've stopped inviting friends out to parties and stopped heading to parties myself, as I don't want to get them doing drugs. Everytime they head out its about getting drunk or high.



nice thread Nat!

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 FUCK KETAMINE. HOLES IN YOUR GODDAMN BRAIN.

umm yeah even prior to this thread i decided to cut off the K out of my party habits just due to the fact that i started not to have fun anymore, i would find myself sitting around and not danceing when beofr ei useto giver all night but yeah the whole "HOLES IN YOUR GODDAMN BRAIN" just makes my decision so much more solid ... you go through to one person VERTiG0.....
p.s just in case no noticed i took down the big Special K sig i had after last weekend for these reasons

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I'm shocked at how people think that if they stick to pills or coke or G that they are safe. this stuff isn't regulated....you can't expect the same quality every time. not even between pills that are from the same dealer and look the same. there are ways to be SAFER about it, but you gamble everytime.

One other very good point. I think that for the most part people that used drugs way back when have now seen the absolute crap that's readily available.

Also, you bring up a great point, going sober just gets to be too much for dealing with the pushy people, and man are there enough of those. This city just seems to be full of jerks.

Floorwhore, dude, do you see people crying becasue they don't make it out so late? Are we too uncool for you because some of us prefer to go home before noon the next day? I've gone all night many many times, and I dunno, maybe I'm just getting older, or maybe the scene is changing. Last two years I've seen headliners playing, on average, later and later. As for the music festivals, I still don't understand your comment. EDM in Europe for example, where its a considerably bigger scene than it is here, happens at all day festivals all the time. For the most part, you're absolutely right, it will stay where it is for now.

there are festivals like WEMF, omnidance, teknival, eclipse and others that although are expensive have music both fruning the day and at night. tho again it is a totally different atmosphere.

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Originally posted by Skipper Jeff, I don't think it's unfair that people would like a headliner to come on before 4am. For people who lead 9-5 jobs, and don't work a retail or a bar/restaurant job and have to keep day hours M-F, staying up til 4am on a Friday night for the headliner to come on is near impossible without drugs since you've already been up since 6am Friday morning.

exactly - in fact i find it almost impossible to party on friday night, as i am so pooped from work.

e.g. im really excited about US10 as the DJ i want to see, Rank 1 is not headlining, meaning that he'll be on from 12/1-2/3 and i can then go home and get some rest.

i like partying, but if the party doesnt start untill 4, then its hard to justify sleeping ALL of sunday, my weekend.

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Originally posted by cyper I dont spend 1 hour driving to Toronto and spend $15 or $20 on cover (plus gas to drive)... Just so I can party for 2 hours.

If you're paying attention, you surely realize that he's not referring to shortening party time, but rather offering it at other times as well.

edit: and if TO wants this, get some promoters to throw a daytime party.

HOLES IN YOUR FUCKING BRAIN! (great post vertigo )

Side note: this thread started out as a sober warning and now people are drunkenly posting in it....

This is getting off topic - we should move the discussion of really late set times to like a separate poll thread. I'm kind curious about the results. I can't imagine too many people like being out till 8am.

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Originally posted by DigitalMP If you're paying attention, you surely realize that he's not referring to shortening party time, but rather offering it at other times as well.

But see, I usually work till 9 or 10. So starting a party at lets say 6 or 7 just wouldnt work out for me.. and im sure for alot of other people either.

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Originally posted by cyper I dont spend 1 hour driving to Toronto and spend $15 or $20 on cover (plus gas to drive)... Just so I can party for 2 hours.

my point being start the parties earlier/bring headliners on prior to 1am

i think i was rather clear in saying that

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Originally posted by El Kay Dee my point being start the parties earlier/bring headliners on prior to 1am i think i was rather clear in saying that

i would party more and spend more money in clubs if this was the case.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur A naive point of view. One thing I've realised is how imprinted the drug culture is in today's society. If it wasn't you who would have told him about it, it would have been one of his friends. You can't really escape the references anymore (unless you really shut yourself away from the world). And why is it okay for you and not okay for him? Both personal choices. You sound really hypocritical when you say "I take E, but I don't want you taking it". And being a hypocrite when it comes to drugs will only have the negative effect of them wanting to try it more. I'll agree with you on the fact that people who brag about doing drugs and being crackheads (MoralHazard & co) are really really lame and immature. Keep it to yourself, it's really nothing to be proud of.

I agree with what you say but my post had nothing to do with me not wanting my brother to do what i did rather, it was just an example of how our words can turn into the actions of others. Lets face it, most of us if not all got into the seen based on what someone else told us.

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Originally posted by DigitalMP edit: and if TO wants this, get some promoters to throw a daytime party.

the only way of having a day party is in the form of a boatcruise with shitty sound

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Originally posted by zokissima Floorwhore, dude, do you see people crying becasue they don't make it out so late? Are we too uncool for you because some of us prefer to go home before noon the next day? I've gone all night many many times, and I dunno, maybe I'm just getting older, or maybe the scene is changing. Last two years I've seen headliners playing, on average, later and later. As for the music festivals, I still don't understand your comment. EDM in Europe for example, where its a considerably bigger scene than it is here, happens at all day festivals all the time. For the most part, you're absolutely right, it will stay where it is for now.

Bro, i never said i was against EDM happening during the day. Infact, the experience I had in MTL at Piknic Elektronik was one of the best i've had (Sunday party, outdoors, in a park starting at noon). My point (if i was trying to make one) is that if you want to see a big headliner in Toronto, suck it up, take a nap before you go out, and expect it to be bright and sunny when you leave. Nightclubs are the ones shelling out the $$$$ to bring these dj's in, so they tell us when the dj plays. This has become 'the norm' in the industry, and I honestly dont see it changing, ever.

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Originally posted by Djsketchbag but yeah the whole "HOLES IN YOUR GODDAMN BRAIN" just makes my decision so much more solid ... you got through to one person VERTiG0.....

You made my day Peter.

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Originally posted by zokissima As for the music festivals, I still don't understand your comment. EDM in Europe for example, where its a considerably bigger scene than it is here, happens at all day festivals all the time. For the most part, you're absolutely right, it will stay where it is for now.

Agreed...however electronic music in Europe is much more mainstream and popular than it is here. Rock festivals in Canada can support thousands regularly, but not EDM because people see it as a drug music, as late night club music.

Also, the club scene in Europe is largely fuelled by the fact that in many countries, the liquor laws are far more relaxed. People can drink at any hour that the club is open. While this is still substance consumption, the difference is that these substances are regulated. When I was in Berlin I was drinking beer until 8am and just gettin my dance on and not ONCE, did I think, "oh my beer buzz is wearing off, how am I going to keep going for the rest of the night?"

Obviously this kind of alcohol availability presents other concerns, but as I said, at least the stuff you are consuming is exactly what you think it is.

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Originally posted by El Kay Dee my point being start the parties earlier/bring headliners on prior to 1am i think i was rather clear in saying that

i think thats a great idea but what about people who have to work late hours on weekends/ have college commitements etc. Won't they get left out.

so jeff....u suggest we take a nap and come in at 1am. after being up from 5/6am, once u take a nap, theres quite possibly no chance of waking up. but ur special so thats all good

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 FUCK KETAMINE. Ketamine is illegal for human use, but A-OK for animals as a tranq.

I'm not advocating the use of K, but I don't think misinformation does anyone any good either.

Here's a quote from a Health Canada publication from Feb. 2004. Link to the full publication.

"Ketamine is a non-barbiturate anaesthetic approved for use in both humans and animals."

It's what is known as a controlled substance which means it's illegal for you or I to possess it or traffic it, etc. but it can still be used in a clinical situation by a doctor.

Here's another link - DanceSafe

Again, let me be clear, I'm sure it's bad to snort this stuff, but you're making it sound like it's deadly for humans, which is clearly not the case when used properly....which none of us do, but you get my point.
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Originally posted by Floorwhore Nightclubs are the ones shelling out the $$$$ to bring these dj's in, so they tell us when the dj plays. This has become 'the norm' in the industry, and I honestly dont see it changing, ever.

Of course it won't, because major clubs often take a cut of the house dealer's drug sales.

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