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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* Okay first of all no I am not dense. I don�t know where you get off calling me that and I�m not even going to get into it. Second of all did I mention a SINGLE thing about people complaining about food or water, elder who were ill, crying children? NO! So don�t put words into my mouth! Third, I didn�t know that since you haven�t heard of a city like Cambridge meant that information from their newspaper was propaganda and useless. I never said that they sent reporters to Lebanon�so again, STOP PUTTING WORDS INTO MY MOUTH. Stop assuming things, such as their news being syndicated from a bigger news agency�b/c if you read my post you would see that it said that people were writing letter�s to the editor and these were the ones that were printed. Am I the one choosing what is printed? No�so FORGIVE ME if I saw what WAS printed and didn�t get all the rest of the letters sent to my doorstep to examine. Fourth, I was simply complaining about the fact that some people were demanding that quote �luxurious cruise ships� be sent to rescue them, immediately and that it would be despicable if the Canadian government were to send anything less. And fifth, I never said anything about Lebanese sending money to their relatives�so again, quit putting words into my mouth.

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Originally posted by malek flip flop

If you're talking about me than all I have to say is

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* If you're talking about me than all I have to say is

and you make up your opinion out of a letter written by a frustrated person to a local newspaper?

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Originally posted by malek lisa where are you getting your propaganda from ?? national post and globe and mail?? what the hell are you talking about? luxury cruises? You just sound like a spoiled girl who has no clue whatsever.

She is getting her stuff from a LETTER sent to one of my local newspapers by some douchebag stuck in Lebanon, as she clearly stated in her first post. Perhaps you should try this next time: Read -> Comprehend -> Post.

Here are the quotes she is referring to:

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John Konduros wrote from Lebanon to the Cambridge Times: "I suggest chartering 10 of the many cruise ships in the Mediterranean."

Yeah. A letter to the editor of mine and supposedly this guy's local newspaper. Nothing from the Globe & Mail or National Post, nothing syndicated. Your comment about her being spoiled was out of line and has no bearing on much of anything.

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Originally posted by malek are you dense? these people already paid their tickets ROUND TRIP, They were vacationning in Lebanon and were expected to come back to their jobs/families/etc.

Oh? Did each and every one of them have a round trip ticket? What about the ones that stay there for an indefinite amount of time and come back to Canada when they see fit to? Are you dense?

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Originally posted by malek Their news must be syndicated from bigger newspaper and news agencies feeding you little-towners-empty-headed people with valid and accurate information! Did they also interview the thousands that were grateful to the Canadian govt and made it back safely? Or are they just paying attention to those who were the loudest?

I resent your comment about us being empty headed, and 120,000 people doesn't exactly make Cambridge a "little town." Perhaps compared to Montreal sure, but come on now.

Regarding the part about paying attention to those who are the loudest, of course that's what they're doing. That's what every newspaper is doing. Nobody wants to hear about the people that got back safely, that's just expected if evacuations occur. The public wants a shitshow and that's what the newspapers cater to.


All in all, a dumb comment made by an idiot is causing this awesome thread.

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Originally posted by malek and you make up your opinion out of a letter written by a frustrated person to a local newspaper?

Yes, I make my opinion of those people who wrote to the editor based on letters that they themselves have written. Did I generalize anywhere that ALL of the people who were being rescued complained? No. In fact I stated that I know it was not the majority of people who complained. I was simply stating that the people who DID complain ought to be ashamed of themselves.

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Originally posted by malek and you make up your opinion out of a letter written by a frustrated person to a local newspaper?

Reading the letters sent to the editor of all the newspapers I receive at home are along the same lines. Blah blah blah Canada come get us I'm a dipshit and decided to vacation in a country run by terrorists in a bad part of the world where shit goes to hell in a handbasket in 3.7 seconds and oh golly another carbomb come get me Stephen Harper.

All the letters are the same.

I'm not opening this thread again because the argument has become useless because most people are gone now.

OIC

so some guy sends teh lettar to the cambridge newspaper, we don't know who he is or if its a fake, and you guys are creating this thread and basing your opinion on his lettar?

i am wondering who's more retarded, the guy who wrote the retarded letter, or you guys for giving him so much credit and giving him so much exposure.



geez, guys are you for real?

P.S. did she ask you to protect her against the evil terrorist who's terrorising her in the thread?

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* Did I generalize anywhere that ALL of the people who were being rescued complained? No.

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Originally posted by malek P.S. did she ask you to protect her against the evil terrorist who's terrorising her in the thread?

AHAHAHAHA WOW. FUCKING AWESOME.

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Originally posted by malek OIC so some guy sends teh lettar to the cambridge newspaper, we don't know who he is or if its a fake, and you guys are creating this thread and basing your opinion on his lettar?

I'll say it again since you've made it clear you can't read. I'm making an opinion of a guy who complained about his experiences in Lebanon on a letter he wrote to a newspaper. Am I making generalizations? NO. Apparently to you, all letters to an editor are fake and not worth reading. If you want I'll get the name and address of the guy who wrote in and you can ask him yourself if his story is real.

If you're going to say that you don't know if stories are real or fake in the news...give me a fucking break...news reports have been found to be embellished or down right lies before and they are by news REPORTERS so don't give me this bull shit about this being fake.

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Originally posted by malek P.S. did she ask you to protect her against the evil terrorist who's terrorising her in the thread?

Let me ask you this...are YOU for real? Your comments are ridiculus. Cale was THERE when I read the letters and read them himself and it was something we talked about on the weekend, and thus he is here to defend me b/c he shared my opinion. Sorry you have no one here to defend YOU!

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Originally posted by malek noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo *cough*flipflop*cough*

You make absolutly no sense at all, b/c I'm right. I never generalized anything. End of story.

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Originally posted by malek P.S. did she ask you to protect her against the evil terrorist who's terrorising her in the thread?

She hit the terrorist alert button and my screens were flashing an amber alert!

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* End of story.

you won. give the girl a medal, close the thread.

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* I'll say it again since you've made it clear you can't read. I'm making an opinion of a guy who complained about his experiences in Lebanon on a letter he wrote to a newspaper. Am I making generalizations? NO. Apparently to you, all letters to an editor are fake and not worth reading. If you want I'll get the name and address of the guy who wrote in and you can ask him yourself if his story is real.

didn't your common sense hinted you that you shouldn't pay attention to an isolate nutcase?? and when you say you're not generalizing, why are you then saying the canadian govt shouldn't pay the transportation of the lebanese?? because they're all like that nutcase?

Yeah maybe they shouldn't pay transportation for that nutcase, but how about the rest?

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Originally posted by malek didn't your common sense hinted you that you shouldn't pay attention to an isolate nutcase??

It's not common sense...I'm sharing my opinion of a letter that was written to the editor. Whether or not youthink it's worth your timing paying attn to is your opinion.

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Originally posted by malek and when you say you're not generalizing, why are you then saying the canadian govt shouldn't pay the transportation of the lebanese?? because they're all like that nutcase?

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* I do think it's a bit crazy that some of these people with dual citizenship go to Lebanon and then want Canada to save them when it's unsafe...and when the coast is clear they just go back.

Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
I do think it's a bit crazy that some of these people with dual citizenship go to Lebanon and then want Canada to save them when it's unsafe...and when the coast is clear they just go back.



No its not crazy, your country is in war you flee. 10-20-30 years later, you decide that things are now peacful to go back and live the rest of your life there. You're still a Canadian citizen and every citizen should be treated the same, thank god we don't have second class citizens like some other backward countries.

The same can be said to the thousands of HKers, Israelis, and countless other minorities here.

Canada takes a gamble when they accept immigrants, some decide to go back, but the majority live and work and pay their taxes here.

When you'll be elected as the next prime minister, change the laws to put an expiry date on citizenships for those who don't pay taxes for a given number of years... and we'll see how that goes.

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Originally posted by malek Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* I do think it's a bit crazy that some of these people with dual citizenship go to Lebanon and then want Canada to save them when it's unsafe...and when the coast is clear they just go back. No its not crazy, your country is in war you flee. 10-20-30 years later, you decide that things are now peacful to go back and live the rest of your life there. You're still a Canadian citizen and every citizen should be treated the same, thank god we don't have second class citizens like some other backward countries. The same can be said to the thousands of HKers, Israelis, and countless other minorities here. Canada takes a gamble when they accept immigrants, some decide to go back, but the majority live and work and pay their taxes here. When you'll be elected as the next prime minister, change the laws to put an expiry date on citizenships for those who don't pay taxes for a given number of years... and we'll see how that goes.

I think it's a bit crazy...I'm free to hold my opinion and you, yours.

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* I think it's a bit crazy...I'm free to hold my opinion and you, yours.

what about the Canadians who fled Canada because they couldn't find a job? but after 10-20-30 years they decide to come back to their roots. Should they be stripped off their citizenry?

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Originally posted by malek what about the Canadians who fled Canada because they couldn't find a job? but after 10-20-30 years they decide to come back to their roots. Should they be stripped off their citizenry?

You know what? I'm done with you. You're just wasting my time and trying to pick a fight. Like I said, I have my opnion, you have yours. If you don't like it...I don't care...it's not your opinion and I'm not looking for your approval.

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* So I saw something in the newspaper in Cambridge this weekend that kinda annoyed me. Unfortunatly I don't have the actual letters...but maybe Cale can post them if he has an online copy. We were reading letters to the paper that were in regards to Canadians that were trapped in Lebanon. Some of the letters said that vactioners were pissed b/c they had to travel to another area in Lebanon in order to get rescued. There were other letters saying that they were ashamed to say they were Canadian b/c it was unacceptable that their country would take so long to rescue them, or that the conditions of their rescue boats/planes were not up to par (i.e. luxurious). Another person complained b/c it was dispecable that Canada would stand back and enjoy their luxurious lifestyle while children in Lebanon were starving and "laying in the sun". These letters pissed me off b/c... 1. It's not Canada's responsibility to get these vacationers out of Lebanon. I think it's quite nice of Canada to do that, so they should be happy that anything is being done for them. When I've vacationed in Florida or Hawaii...I didn't complain that there was a hurricane and it was my countries responsibility to save me! I'm out of the country on vacation...why should Canada be responsible for my well being? 2. I don't have a passport handy to look at, but if I'm not mistaken, doesn't it WARN people of going to places like Lenanon, Iraq, Afghanastan etc. that they are not guaranteed to be safe places to visit? 3. If these people are so ashamed of being Canadian, why do they want to be saved in order to come back to Canada? 4. They should be happy that Canada is going in period to get them back safely to their homes...is it truely necessary to have luxurious ships and planes to rescue them? Personally I wouldn't care how I got back, as long as I made it home safely! 5. And as for the man that was complaining about how Canada could stand back and watch these children getting a tan in the sun and starving to death...I bet that man wasn't doing anything himself to help those children b/c all he cared about was his country flying a private jet in to save him! I know that not all of the Canadians that are in Lebanon do not hold opinions like the ones who wrote letters to the paper...but I think that some of those people are being a bit ridiculus.

I agree ... and if you watch the news, its not even FUCKIN tourists...its Lebaneze people who imigrated to Canada, took their citezenships and than went back to Lebanon...and now the war started so they want back...they cant eve fuckin speak english! If they liked it so much there...stay the fuck there, if not you should have stayed here. I hate it when people are hypocrits like that. Canada is doing a nice thing...and when you get a favor...YOU DONT ASK HOW YOU WANT IT! They should all be saying thank you for not receiving a bomb up their ass like the rest of their country!

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* You know what? I'm done with you. You're just wasting my time and trying to pick a fight. Like I said, I have my opnion, you have yours. If you don't like it...I don't care...it's not your opinion and I'm not looking for your approval.

having an opinion does not make someone right, even less when based on very little facts

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Originally posted by LOT2005 I agree ... and if you watch the news, its not even FUCKIN tourists...its Lebaneze people who imigrated to Canada, took their citezenships and than went back to Lebanon...and now the war started so they want back...they cant eve fuckin speak english! If they liked it so much there...stay the fuck there, if not you should have stayed here. I hate it when people are hypocrits like that. Canada is doing a nice thing...and when you get a favor...YOU DONT ASK HOW YOU WANT IT! They should all be saying thank you for not receiving a bomb up their ass like the rest of their country!

lisaloo, you see what kind of generalizations you have induced people into?

they can't even speak fucking english because they speak fucking french, the *other* language in Canada.

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Originally posted by LOT2005 I agree ... and if you watch the news, its not even FUCKIN tourists...its Lebaneze people who imigrated to Canada, took their citezenships and than went back to Lebanon...and now the war started so they want back...they cant eve fuckin speak english! If they liked it so much there...stay the fuck there, if not you should have stayed here. I hate it when people are hypocrits like that. Canada is doing a nice thing...and when you get a favor...YOU DONT ASK HOW YOU WANT IT! They should all be saying thank you for not receiving a bomb up their ass like the rest of their country!

Oh and since the the hell's Canada's responsability to give wealth to Lebanon?!?! that country's been fighting and in a constant war for like 40 years ... isn't it our responsability to take care of our own before we ask for help?!?

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Originally posted by LOT2005 Oh and since the the hell's Canada's responsability to give wealth to Lebanon?!?! that country's been fighting and in a constant war for like 40 years ... isn't it our responsability to take care of our own before we ask for help?!?

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