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Originally posted by humilis There's no AUDIBLE differences between 96 and 44,1kHz (if there is, the most of the audible differences will come from crappy DA-converters or bad sample rate conversion when downsampling). Between 16 and 24bits there is, but it depends on what are you listening to. And I don't know any record, which needs those extra bits

I never asked wether or not it matters or wether or not you can hear the differences in resolution, we will let everybody decide for their own, my question is this:

If your final product is 24 bit 96.000 will it or will it not be a higher resolution product than if your final product is 16bit 44.100 .

A. Yes a sample of 24bit 96.000 is a higher resolution sample than a 16bit 44.100 sample

B. No a sample of 24bit 96.000 is not a higher resolution sample than a 16bit 44.100 sample.

Answer.

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT I don't mean to just pick a part a small part of your post but you should be very careful with pretty much all platforms of music, whether it be vinyl, cd or whatever. CD's scratch and will skip badly if not taken care of. I honestly find I can handle records a bit tougher then I can with cd's but that is just from my own personal experience.

True but I have plenty of CDs that are scratched and have no problems with skipping on my CDJ 1000 MK2s. They are delicate, but the scratching doesn't totally ruin it, and with CDRs, if you scratch it, you just make a new one. You don't need to spend another $9.99 + 5.00 shipping like you do with record stores online, or more than that..to replace scratched or warped records. For the price of one or two records, you can get a whole pack of 50 CDRs (for like $17.99 to 19.99).

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Originally posted by Spirit5 True but I have plenty of CDs that are scratched and have no problems with skipping on my CDJ 1000 MK2s. They are delicate, but the scratching doesn't totally ruin it, and with CDRs, if you scratch it, you just make a new one. You don't need to spend another $9.99 + 5.00 shipping like you do with record stores online, or more than that..to replace scratched or warped records. For the price of one or two records, you can get a whole pack of 50 CDRs (for like $17.99 to 19.99).

True.

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Originally posted by harriz I never asked wether or not it matters or wether or not you can hear the differences in resolution, we will let everybody decide for their own, my question is this: If your final product is 24 bit 96.000 will it or will it not be a higher resolution product than if your final product is 16bit 44.100 . A. Yes a sample of 24bit 96.000 is a higher resolution sample than a 16bit 44.100 sample B. No a sample of 24bit 96.000 is not a higher resolution sample than a 16bit 44.100 sample. Answer.

whats more

A 24 * 96000
B 16 * 44000

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT I don't mean to just pick a part a small part of your post but you should be very careful with pretty much all platforms of music, whether it be vinyl, cd or whatever. CD's scratch and will skip badly if not taken care of. I honestly find I can handle records a bit tougher then I can with cd's but that is just from my own personal experience.

Good point. I've actually had a few cds already that needed to be replaced because they formed a few cracks around the center hole that got worse with each continued play and eventually lengthened onto the playing surface making them unreadable. This was just from normal use mind you, so yeah, cd's are just as fragile at times.

A pissing contest of epic proportions.

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Originally posted by UWM A pissing contest of epic proportions.

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Originally posted by UWM A pissing contest of epic proportions.

Meanwhile zee mp3 kids are hard at work tracking down vbr vinyl rips

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Originally posted by Clovis86 Meanwhile zee mp3 kids are hard at work tracking down vbr vinyl rips

Hah!

possibly more important than whether you can tell the difference is whether it really affects your enjoyment of a night out. I can really only think of a handful of nights where I recall the sound quality as particularly good or bad, and none where I recall whether it was mostly analogue or digital formats.

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Originally posted by tubby possibly more important than whether you can tell the difference is whether it really affects your enjoyment of a night out. I can really only think of a handful of nights where I recall the sound quality as particularly good or bad, and none where I recall whether it was mostly analogue or digital formats.

likewise, and the same probably applies to those arguing over it... but hey, it's verbal masturbation for the anally retentive, i say let them indulge

Let's see now... this has been going on for 10 pages and what has been accomplished?

Absolutely fuck all.

Just... wow.

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Originally posted by harriz I never asked wether or not it matters or wether or not you can hear the differences in resolution, we will let everybody decide for their own, my question is this: If your final product is 24 bit 96.000 will it or will it not be a higher resolution product than if your final product is 16bit 44.100 . A. Yes a sample of 24bit 96.000 is a higher resolution sample than a 16bit 44.100 sample B. No a sample of 24bit 96.000 is not a higher resolution sample than a 16bit 44.100 sample. Answer.

I've said more than enough times that it doesn't matter what the answer is, and you refuse to listen. That's it. I'm out. If you're going to be a wall about this, it's not worth it to argue.

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Originally posted by thoughtlessjex I've said more than enough times that it doesn't matter what the answer is, and you refuse to listen. That's it. I'm out. If you're going to be a wall about this, it's not worth it to argue.

Regardless of wether or not it matters what is the answer?


If your final product is 24 bit 96.000 will it or will it not be a higher resolution product than if your final product is 16bit 44.100?

A. Yes a sample of 24bit 96.000 is a higher resolution sample than a 16bit 44.100 sample

B. No a sample of 24bit 96.000 is not a higher resolution sample than a 16bit 44.100 sample.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Let's see now... this has been going on for 10 pages and what has been accomplished? Absolutely fuck all. Just... wow.

Has there ever been anything accomplished in the countless number of times we've had this debate?

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Originally posted by idoru Has there ever been anything accomplished in the countless number of times we've had this debate?

No idea, this is the first time I've actually bothered to read any of these topics. Boy, was that a bad idea...

ye, this is just keep on arguing for the sake of arguing, enough of this bollocks really, thread closed

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