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| Originally posted by EXTREMUM Actually, you're not supposed to feel anything, before you die. Letha Injection - first, it knocks you unconcious into a comalike sleep, then the next stage of injections shuts down your heart and brain - flatline... |
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| Originally posted by Demoted Yah, so if what Yan says is true about lethal injections, gimme a lynching! |
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| The drugs are administered, in this order: Anesthetic - Sodium thiopental, which has the trademark name Pentothal, puts the inmate into a deep sleep. This drug is a barbiturate that induces general anesthesia when administered intravenously. It can reach effective clinical concentrations in the brain within 30 seconds, according to an Amnesty International report. For surgical operations, patients are given a dose of 100 to 150 milligrams over a period of 10 to 15 seconds. For executions, as many as 5 grams (5,000 mg) of Pentothal may be administered. This in itself is a lethal dose. It's believed by some that after this anesthetic is delivered, the inmate doesn't feel anything. Saline solution flushes the intravenous line. Paralyzing agent - Pancuronium bromide, also known as Pavulon, is a muscle relaxant that is given in a dose that stops breathing by paralyzing the diaphragm and lungs. Conventionally, this drug takes effect in one to three minutes after being injected. In many states, this drug is given in doses of up to 100 milligrams, a much higher dose than is used in surgical operations -- usually 40 to 100 micrograms per one kilogram of body weight. Other chemicals that can be used as a paralyzing agent include tubocurarine chloride and succinylcholine chloride. Saline solution flushes the intravenous line. Toxic agent (not used by all states) - Potassium chloride is given at a lethal dose in order to interrupt the electrical signaling essential to heart functions. This induces cardiac arrest. |
He shouldn't have been killed. It would have been really monumental of us to keep him alive in prison and would have communicated that we aren't the same shit we strive to eliminate.
Also, isn't it a war crime? plz explain how not.
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| Originally posted by wizniz He shouldn't have been killed. It would have been really monumental of us to keep him alive in prison and would have communicated that we aren't the same shit we strive to eliminate. Also, isn't it a war crime? plz explain how not. |
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| Originally posted by wizniz He shouldn't have been killed. It would have been really monumental of us to keep him alive in prison and would have communicated that we aren't the same shit we strive to eliminate. Also, isn't it a war crime? plz explain how not. |
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| Originally posted by EXTREMUM It isn't... |
Explains the video somewhat -
Saddam Exchanged Taunts Before Hanging
By STEVEN R. HURST, Associated Press Writer
55 minutes ago
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqis awoke Saturday to television images of a noose being slipped over Saddam Hussein's neck and his white-shrouded body, the pre-dawn work of black-hooded hangmen. They went to bed as new video emerged showing Saddam exchanging taunts with onlookers before the gallows floor dropped away and the former dictator swung from the rope.
Saddam was buried shortly before sunrise Sunday in a family plot next to the graves of his two sons, witnesses said. Those who saw the ceremony said only a few people were present for the burial in Ouja, where Saddam was born.
In Baghdad's Shiite neighborhood of Sadr City, victims of his three decades of autocratic rule took to the streets Saturday to celebrate, dancing, beating drums and hanging Saddam in effigy. Celebratory gunfire erupted across other Shiite neighborhoods in Baghdad and other predominantly Shiite regions of the country.
There was no sign of a feared Sunni uprising in retaliation for the execution, and the bloodshed from civil warfare was not far off the daily average _ 92 from bombings and death squads.
Outside the Sunni insurgent stronghold of Ramadi, west of the capital, loyalists marched with Saddam pictures and waved Iraqi flags. Defying curfews, hundreds took to the streets vowing revenge in Samarra, north of Baghdad, and gunmen paraded and fired into the air in support of Saddam in Tikrit, his hometown.
Still, authorities imposed curfews sparingly in contrast to the several-day lockdown put in place after Saddam was sentenced to death Nov. 5.
By several accounts, Saddam was calm but scornful of his captors, engaging in a give-and-take with the crowd gathered to watch him die and insisting he was Iraq's savior, not its tyrant and scourge.
"He said we are going to heaven and our enemies will rot in hell and he also called for forgiveness and love among Iraqis but also stressed that the Iraqis should fight the Americans and the Persians," Munir Haddad, an appeals court judge who witnessed the hanging, told the British Broadcasting Corp.
Another witness, national security adviser Mowaffak al-Rubaie, told The New York Times that one of the guards shouted at Saddam: "You have destroyed us. You have killed us. You have made us live in destitution."
"I have saved you from destitution and misery and destroyed your enemies, the Persian and Americans," Saddam responded, al-Rubaie told the Times.
"God damn you," the guard said.
"God damn you," responded Saddam.
New video, first broadcast by Al-Jazeera satellite television early Sunday, had sound of someone in the group praising the founder of the Shiite Dawa Party, who was executed in 1980 along with his sister by Saddam.
Saddam appeared to smile at those taunting him from below the gallows. He said they were not showing manhood.
Then Saddam began reciting the "Shahada," a Muslim prayer that says there is no god but God and Muhammad is his messenger, according to an unabridged copy of the same tape, apparently shot with a camera phone and posted on a Web site.
Saddam made it to midway through his second recitation of the verse. His last word was Muhammad.
The floor dropped out of the gallows.
"The tyrant has fallen," someone in the group of onlookers shouted. The video showed a close-up of Saddam's face as he swung from the rope.
Then came another voice: "Let him swing for three minutes."
The responses within Iraq to Saddam's death echoed the larger reaction across the Middle East, with his enemies rejoicing and his defenders proclaiming him a martyr. While Iranians and Kuwaitis welcomed the death of the leader who led wars against each of their countries, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said the execution prevented exposure of the secrets and crimes the former dictator committed during his brutal rule.
Some Arab governments denounced the timing of the 69-year-old former president's hanging just before the start of the most important holiday of the Islamic calendar, Eid al-Adha. Libya announced a three-day official mourning period and canceled all celebrations for Eid.
Within Iraq and across the world, the airwaves were alive with pictures of Saddam in death, a bruise on his cheek, his neck elongated and twisted impossibly to the right _ grisly proof that the man who had tormented and killed so many during a bloody quarter-century rule was truly dead.
But some Iraqis _ like 34-year-old Haider Hamed, a candy store owner in east Baghdad _ wondered what would really change with the execution of Saddam, who was just four months shy of his 70th birthday.
"He's gone, but our problems continue," said the Shiite Muslim, whose uncle was killed in one of Saddam's many brutal purges. "We brought problems on ourselves after Saddam because we began fighting Shiite on Sunni and Sunni on Shiite."
At least 80 Iraqis died in bombings and other attacks Saturday, and police said 12 more tortured bodies were found dumped in Baghdad. The U.S. military announced six more service members _ three soldiers and three Marines _ were killed.
The execution took place on the penultimate day of the year's deadliest month for U.S. troops, with the toll reaching 109. At least 2,998 members of the U.S. military have died in Iraq since the war began in March 2003, according to an AP count.
On Sunday, Saddam was interred near his sons Odai and Qusai in the main cemetery in Ouja, a small town outside Tikrit. The sons and a grandson were killed in a gunbattle with the American forces in Mosul in July 2003.
Iraqi government officials initially wanted to bury Saddam in secret in an unmarked grave to prevent the burial site from becoming a place of pilgrimage.
But the Tikrit burial was facilitated after negotiations in Baghdad between the government and U.S. officials and a delegation that included the governor of Salahuddin Province and the head of Saddam Hussein's Albu-Nassir clan, Al-Arabiya satellite television reported late Saturday.
Um Abdullah, a Sunni and teacher in Tikrit, 80 miles north of Baghdad, said she would wear black to mourn the city's favorite son.
"Saddam will be a hero in our eyes," she said. "I have five kids and I will teach them to take revenge on Americans."
Police blocked the entrances to Tikrit and said nobody was allowed to leave or enter the city for four days. Despite the security precaution, gunmen took into the streets, carrying pictures of Saddam, shooting into the air and calling for vengeance.
Security forces also set up roadblocks at the entrance to another Sunni stronghold, Samarra, and a curfew was imposed after about 500 went into the streets to protest the execution.
Among minority Sunnis there was deep anger, born not only of Saddam's execution but of the loss of their decades-long political and economic dominance that began with Saddam's ouster in the U.S. invasion nearly four years ago.
"The president, the leader, Saddam Hussein is a martyr and God will put him along with other martyrs," said Yahya al-Attawi, who led prayer at a towering Sunni mosque constructed by Saddam in Tikrit.
There were cheers at the cafeteria of a U.S. outpost in Baghdad as soldiers having breakfast learned Saddam had been hanged.
But members of the Army's 2nd Battalion, 17th Field Artillery Regiment, on patrol in an overwhelmingly Shiite neighborhood in eastern Baghdad, said the execution wouldn't get them home any faster _ and therefore didn't make much difference.
"Nothing really changes," said Capt. Dave Eastburn, 30, of Columbus, Ohio. "The militias run everything now, not Saddam."
Staff Sgt. David Earp, who also fought in 1991's Operation Desert Storm, said the execution worried him.
"In my opinion, something big is going to happen," said Earp, of Colorado Springs, Colo. "There will be a response. Probably not today because they know we are looking for one, but soon."
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omg talk about anti-climactic. the way you people are bitching on here youd at least think the video would be decent quality.
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| Originally posted by Protege omg talk about anti-climactic. the way you people are bitching on here youd at least think the video would be decent quality. |
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| Originally posted by Aristronica would you rather not have the video then? |
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| Originally posted by Protege well i was kinda expecting to watch him die. so it didnt live up to my expectations. so yeah i guess. |
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| Originally posted by Aristronica what did you want a POV cam? how about a noose cam and a floor and one on his dick just for shits and giggles. |
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| Originally posted by Aristronica this fucking guy... what did you want a POV cam? how about a noose cam and a floor and one on his dick just for shits and giggles. i think we're lucky some bastard snuck in a cellphone cam and even got us this far cuz we'd still be waiting for a week for the Al Jazeera feature DVD. |
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| Originally posted by Protege I dont think a dick cam is necessary but everything else seems doable. |
An outdoor stoning w/ cinder blocks would've been entertaining.
You'd figure with their budget, they would've made a better video.
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| Originally posted by EXTREMUM An outdoor stoning w/ cinder blocks would've been entertaining. You'd figure with their budget, they would've made a better video. |
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| Originally posted by Aristronica brick cam FTW! |
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| Originally posted by EXTREMUM ...in HD 1080i. |
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| Originally posted by Vivid Boy all i know is that if i were up for a hangin ud really have to shoot me cause theres no way ur gettin a rope around my neck without me taking at least one guy down and biting his face off |
Heh... I didn't click the link, so CNN did me a favour and showed it to me 
(Thankfully, they didn't show the exact moment though, as expected)
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