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Oh god, here we go again...

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Originally posted by Atmos Wow...if this is true then I'm speechless I dont know what to say...it's a big deal to me. You mean to say that most of "his" singles, werent even made by him?

like many other producers (across a variety of genres), he has engineers that help him construct tracks. this is hardly groundbreaking news, except to uninformed muppets who like to make a big deal about it on message boards.

are youuuu serious? OMG I can't adam & eve it!?

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Originally posted by Atmos Wow...if this is true then I'm speechless I dont know what to say...it's a big deal to me. You mean to say that most of "his" singles, werent even made by him?

i suggest suicide

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Originally posted by sljiva i suggest suicide

^

LOOOL ...

exactly ... read the credits , and you will see for yourself , but like someone said before , who cares ? as long as he comes up with quality releases , it really doesnt make any difference , even if christina milan or whatever her name is , sings in his tracks !!!

Somebody turn the lights , so we can party all night ... ( Hides far away since he actually knows one christina milan track ... )

what happend to Kirsty Hawkshaw? does she not sing in his songs anymore?

Well I understand if he has people help him but I interpreted that he didn't even work on them at all. Anyway, I dont like Christina Milian much so I hope whatever track they make doesnt see daylight.

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Originally posted by Bidor what happend to Kirsty Hawkshaw? does she not sing in his songs anymore?

I afraid thats another long story, and its way past your bedtime already

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Originally posted by Bidor what happend to Kirsty Hawkshaw? does she not sing in his songs anymore?

I'm afraid thats another long story, and its way past your bedtime already

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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd! I'm afraid thats another long story, and its way past your bedtime already

wtf your talking about moron. im living in a different timezone.

Credits

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Originally posted by qussay LOOOL ... exactly ... read the credits , and you will see for yourself , but like someone said before , who cares ?

Reading the credits, does not always mean written the credits , lots of elements in the tracks are taken from other composers, producers, if he can come up with someting original??

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Originally posted by Bidor wtf your talking about moron. im living in a different timezone.

It's still way past your bedtime.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery It's still way past your bedtime.

fuck you to.

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Originally posted by Sykonee Yeah, see, most of those sets are from a time Tiesto the DJ was bigger than Tiesto the Celebrity. Unsurprisingly, the topics of discussion regarding him were much different then.

What does, "most of those sets are from a time Tiesto the DJ was bigger than Tiesto the Celebrity" have anything to do with him as a dj? It means nothing. Jealousy will only get you so far. Listen to Tiesto then and now is a little different. But if you can get past the fact taht he does sound different, and let your ears do the speaking, you will learn that he is still as good as he was back then.

The Only difference is the style of music he now plays. Do I perfer the tracks he played in 1998-2002, of course, but if you listen to any of his sets from 2003 till now, you can still tell he has great track selection and he loves what he does. If you cannot hear that, then something is blocking you from hearing the quality Dj tiesto has always been.

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Originally posted by jesusisgod What does, "most of those sets are from a time Tiesto the DJ was bigger than Tiesto the Celebrity" have anything to do with him as a dj? It means nothing. Jealousy will only get you so far. Listen to Tiesto then and now is a little different. But if you can get past the fact taht he does sound different, and let your ears do the speaking, you will learn that he is still as good as he was back then. The Only difference is the style of music he now plays. Do I perfer the tracks he played in 1998-2002, of course, but if you listen to any of his sets from 2003 till now, you can still tell he has great track selection and he loves what he does. If you cannot hear that, then something is blocking you from hearing the quality Dj tiesto has always been.

Correct and together with the 'old' tracks produced for him, he did made a special combi till 2004, which reached the highest level in fame. after 2004 the tracks are poor qualitied, now he playes a mix with old classics and new styles,....can continue for years

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Originally posted by Lipstick643 Correct and together with the 'old' tracks produced for him, he did made a special combi till 2004, which reached the highest level in fame. after 2004 the tracks are poor qualitied, now he playes a mix with old classics and new styles,....can continue for years

I blame this on his traveling. Ever since he started to travel to South America and parts of Asia, you can hear this style change. I assume the music he heard in those country started to influence his tastes. I perfer if Tiesto would have stuck with the Dutch style of music, you can hear that in his Dutch Dimension 2001 and 2002 sets, but you cannot blame him for liking new music.

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Originally posted by jesusisgod I blame this on his traveling. Ever since he started to travel to South America and parts of Asia, you can hear this style change. I assume the music he heard in those country started to influence his tastes. I perfer if Tiesto would have stuck with the Dutch style of music, you can hear that in his Dutch Dimension 2001 and 2002 sets, but you cannot blame him for liking new music.

Yea you can't...and with time people change. It's a fact of life, whether it be for the better or for the worse. You should judge people by their achievements, not only in a year or two, but in their lifetime. Hopefully, others will see this too.

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Originally posted by jesusisgod I blame this on his traveling. Ever since he started to travel to South America and parts of Asia, you can hear this style change. I assume the music he heard in those country started to influence his tastes. I perfer if Tiesto would have stuck with the Dutch style of music, you can hear that in his Dutch Dimension 2001 and 2002 sets, but you cannot blame him for liking new music.

Okay, I didn't noticed it that way, but I guess you have a point here. I don't think he's got too far away from his first music style, caus' music in Asia is different and I never heard anything like Samba music in his sets..

I'll hope for some new tunes and next album, which exceeds the quality from the past, maybe he can stop playing, tunes like D4L, ect,ect...

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Originally posted by Bidor fuck you to.

"too"

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Originally posted by jesusisgod The Only difference is the style of music he now plays. Do I perfer the tracks he played in 1998-2002, of course, but if you listen to any of his sets from 2003 till now, you can still tell he has great track selection and he loves what he does. If you cannot hear that, then something is blocking you from hearing the quality Dj tiesto has always been.

You can say that about just about any DJ. What makes Tiesto anymore special than the others, other than the fact he's a bigger celebrity than musician?

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Originally posted by Sykonee You can say that about just about any DJ. What makes Tiesto anymore special than the others, other than the fact he's a bigger celebrity than musician?

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Originally posted by Beethoven Tiesto is a GREAT DJ!!! He played in the Olimpic. Billion of people watch Tiesto! Tiesto is a Trance Mover. Thats why we LOVE HIM.

From the thread DJ is NO SKILL ???

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Originally posted by Sykonee You can say that about just about any DJ. What makes Tiesto anymore special than the others, other than the fact he's a bigger celebrity than musician?

The fact taht his tracks were always ahead of everyone else. I remember listening to many of this sets during each year, 2001, 2002 and so on, and each time I would hear him spin tracks that no other dj was spinning. Go back and listen to a Ferry or PVd set from 2002 and compare it to a Tiesto set from that time. Tiesto's tracks were much better and different than eveyrone elses.

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Originally posted by jesusisgod I blame this on his traveling. Ever since he started to travel to South America and parts of Asia, you can hear this style change. I assume the music he heard in those country started to influence his tastes. I perfer if Tiesto would have stuck with the Dutch style of music, you can hear that in his Dutch Dimension 2001 and 2002 sets, but you cannot blame him for liking new music.

you really like talking shit don't you

trance changed as a whole... what is now popularly described as trance, wasn't even around in the period you mention.

Most of the material he still plays is produced in NL, UK & USA.

Its completely trite to say he went to Asia/Sth. America and changed.

In 2001 and 2002 he played quite a fair amount of crossover house/techno/tech-house... King Unique, Sapphirecut, Megamind, Max Walder... for some examples.. just actually LISTEN next time you put on the 02-02-02 set.

He actually went in a rut in 2003-5 because he stuck to that big-room, no frills, tech-trance. The same fodder Armin is now ploughing through, to receive the popularity with the mainstream, that he needs to be number 1.

Tijs is older, wiser, and playing across the board again, just as he always used to do.

Its not a development... its just a RETURN to the REAL tiesto. But to understand that, you have to realise that up until this year, the Tiesto you were listening to, was the former shadow of himself, not the OMG.. He has always and will forever be trance. No. He was not, and no he won't be. Hard to stomach? Well tough.




p.s. Lost Treasures 2 for the win. Then you might just understand, what a non-genre specific DJ, Tiesto has been, and will continue to be, now that he has freed himself of the shackles of World No.1 spotlight.

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Originally posted by jesusisgod The fact taht his tracks were always ahead of everyone else. I remember listening to many of this sets during each year, 2001, 2002 and so on, and each time I would hear him spin tracks that no other dj was spinning. Go back and listen to a Ferry or PVd set from 2002 and compare it to a Tiesto set from that time. Tiesto's tracks were much better and different than eveyrone elses.

This just tells me you need to listen to more DJs than the usual suspects.

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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd! you really like talking shit don't you trance changed as a whole... what is now popularly described as trance, wasn't even around in the period you mention. Most of the material he still plays is produced in NL, UK & USA. Its completely trite to say he went to Asia/Sth. America and changed. In 2001 and 2002 he played quite a fair amount of crossover house/techno/tech-house... King Unique, Sapphirecut, Megamind, Max Walder... for some examples.. just actually LISTEN next time you put on the 02-02-02 set. He actually went in a rut in 2003-5 because he stuck to that big-room, no frills, tech-trance. The same fodder Armin is now ploughing through, to receive the popularity with the mainstream, that he needs to be number 1. Tijs is older, wiser, and playing across the board again, just as he always used to do. Its not a development... its just a RETURN to the REAL tiesto. But to understand that, you have to realise that up until this year, the Tiesto you were listening to, was the former shadow of himself, not the OMG.. He has always and will forever be trance. No. He was not, and no he won't be. Hard to stomach? Well tough. p.s. Lost Treasures 2 for the win. Then you might just understand, what a non-genre specific DJ, Tiesto has been, and will continue to be, now that he has freed himself of the shackles of World No.1 spotlight.

I would definately agree with this. His set at HMH in 2005 marked a return of the "old tiesto" for me from the going through the motions, anthem basher of the previous couple of years. Only wish Armin would see that going commercial is not the only way it has to be to be popular.

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