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Originally posted by TheRizzler I heard from someone yesterday that 514 is supposed to have gotten the rights to throw Arrival this year, and they were sayng to expect to see the best lineup in the last 5 years. I don't know if it's true, I think my friend said he read it in the hour magazine.

I heard they were just in charge of the booking... but,I also heard that Buggs Bunny slept with the coyote once...

I heard that too
So now what

they should host the party in morocco , the country where we say fuck all to the trademarks

seriously , if it's canceled because of the name , now that sucks ... and it sucks BIG TIME

All right, I could see how they would lose cash because of marketing costs, but I don't see why the party would have to be canceled, wouldn't they be allowed to offer an exchange on the tickets for what ever they'll change the event name to, instead of having to refund everyone? That would really suck for them if they lose swirl, but I didn't buy an early ticket, and don't plan on spending 70$ on a ticket now, so not such a big loss to me, sorry :P

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Originally posted by Czaoth they can rename swirl to anything they want as long as it still happens i don't give a damn what it's called!!

If you think about it, a name is not only four letters long... a lot of money is involved. If they lost the trademark for the name swirl, that name cannot appear on any ticket that have already been sold (pre sale), as well as having to change the entire theme by itself... In my opinion, if 514 has been sued for using the name swirl, the must pay for damages when it comes to advertizing... their site, the tickets, and all others. 514, if it is faced with that, will choose to cancel the show rather than deal with headaches... court battles tend to last a long time.

This is just what I think would happen, I'm not even sure they have been sued because I've not heard of it, except for this forum... the next 20 days should be interesting to see what happens...

TechnoFreak

I thought 514 was always the "owner" of the name?? What do you mean that there are two 514 production companies or something.

Did someone buy out 514 because in that case they buy all the trademarks that they own also. I really don't understand.

Re: Tatgirl....

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Originally posted by TriPhOdd ...there is a never ending story going on between the 514 productions and the old 514 production. To many stories, to many rumors....

woah, fill me in I never heard that. this must be post 98?
I know there's the pre and post Sona, before 514 completely took over.

how exactly can they be sued and cease promotion in 2 days, they've been using the Swirl trademark for 8 years, that's ridiculous, that would NEVER hold up in court.

-s

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Originally posted by TheRizzler I heard from someone yesterday that 514 is supposed to have gotten the rights to throw Arrival this year, and they were sayng to expect to see the best lineup in the last 5 years. I don't know if it's true, I think my friend said he read it in the hour magazine.

... that wont be hard to beat =)

I don't know if I should tell you this but...

514 buyed their old partners last June for 600 000$.
And they put Swirl and other trademark in garanty.
But now they don't have the money to finnish the payments so the old partners won in court and they are the owners of Swirl again.

Anyway, Cordeiro brothers were not alone when all these partys started, Driss, JC and Crazy Eddie were all 514 partners with the same % of parts than the Cordeiro brothers.

The name Swirl is from Crazy Eddie and at first, Swirl was much more better than now.

Now it's anything, before it was Techno and Hip-Hop.

Anyway, Driss and JC should get their money back because they worked too much for 514 for nothing.

were screwed
question, if i paid with my credit card and i havent picked up the tickets, could i call master card and stop payment?

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Originally posted by DARK MAN X were screwed question, if i paid with my credit card and i havent picked up the tickets, could i call master card and stop payment?

sorry dude the answer is : NO

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Originally posted by DARK MAN X were screwed question, if i paid with my credit card and i havent picked up the tickets, could i call master card and stop payment?

There's no need to. Pre-paying by credit card is the safest way to guarantee your money's return if the event gets cancelled.
Unfortunately, those who paid for tickets to a recently cancelled event in Toronto by cash at the outlets got screwed- the promoters picked up the money to pay for things along the way, only 1/2 of it was returned, & I don't think they have any intention of replacing the money. Thos who paid by credit card were refunded immediately.

Yeah, your credit card should have protection against getting frauded, and I'm sure this would count, I would think you would be able to get your $$ back.

i want my fuckin money back....

it's not cancelled yet...... if there's one thing I've learned and everyone else should have learnt so far, it's dont count on anything until you've heard the official word. We hear a lot of rumors first, not to say that many of them are true, but there have been a lot that didn't pan through. I'm sure they can work out a deal to pay $$ for throwing the party, instead of losing all the $$ from not throwing it.

ur gonna get ur money returned if u paid by credit card , it already happened to me in the past and i got my money back so no need to worry

and as Eli let's wait to hear the official answer from 514

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Originally posted by TheRizzler it's not cancelled yet...... if there's one thing I've learned and everyone else should have learnt so far, it's dont count on anything until you've heard the official word. We hear a lot of rumors first, not to say that many of them are true, but there have been a lot that didn't pan through. I'm sure they can work out a deal to pay $$ for throwing the party, instead of losing all the $$ from not throwing it.

hehe nice thinking, 2 bad you re the only one that think like that

THANKS EVEREYONE FOR THE 411

BUT SEEING AS HAPPY HAS POSTED ON THIS SUBJECT YET, IT LEADS ME TO THINK THAT WERE GOING TO LOOSE OUT AGAIN
PEACE

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Originally posted by DJHappy hehe nice thinking, 2 bad you re the only one that think like that

Now that is messed up! If Happy isn't thinking positive.... I don't think there's hope!!.........just another...... could have been..... would have been......... should have been.....ISN'T

HEYYYY!!

I didn't said the party will not happen guys!!!
I just don't know if they will change the name or anything else.

If they find the money to pay the guys .

Who knows.

Well I'm sure it would be cheaper to pay the guys money, rather then cancel the party, so unless it's a vendetta and someone out to cause trouble, I see the party going forward.....

I think Deacon should post in this thread. hah

This whole trademark fiasco is pure bullshit. Call the party something else, who cares. I sure as hell wouldn't care. With a lineup like that the party could be called "worst promoters of all time", and I'd still be there. If the party doesn't happen it's because of Popo nothing else.

I also think it has nothing to do with trademarks. only that they are being pressured by popo or they fucked up another way, like not getting a permit or something stupid like last year.

The party is still going on don`t worry...they stand to lose way to much money if it doesn`t..

Hey Happy, do you know the times when Dj`s are spinning yet

Hey streroPrioncess last year the cops closed them down..it wasn`t 514 fault at all...nothing like the fuckup at Bal this year!!!

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Originally posted by Apu Hey streroPrioncess last year the cops closed them down..it wasn`t 514 fault at all...nothing like the fuckup at Bal this year!!!

popo = police

with bal en blanc, do u mean the venue stuff??

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