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Posted by KrinKer on Mar-05-2007 00:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
It's obvious that either you didn't read one word of what I wrote or you have poor reading comprehension. (If English is your 2nd language, you're excused)

My post has nothing to do with 'helping' any ta sub-forum but rather it tries to explain/clarify some of the points brought up by YouReadyB's post.


1st

You imply that i even took the time to read you novel

2nd

You imply that i can read !!

3rd

My post was marelly a bad attempt at trying to create something ineteresting on MtlTa ( because anyway i've created my share of stir in Tota over the years and not it doesn't amuse me anymore )

quote:
Originally posted by Marcus007
hahahaha i know its been to long man

we need a krinker surprise appearence at beb like last year

i remember digweed/howells @ ARIA with nick and you and your cute friend from chicutumi

what was her name again?


Her name was myl�ne and she lives in Montreal now.

I didn,t do a surprise appearence at beb last year because the line-up sucked ( probably not as much as this year but still )

Yeah i need to go party soon, i need it. My body aches for a solid party where i could let my brain out and dance for a couple of hours. Too bad it won't be beb, line-up sucks and i don't want to dance to either trance or tribal house

So

Better luck next time

KrinKer


Posted by YouReadyB on Mar-05-2007 01:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Nothing really surprising here - I've heard many of the same comments from the bigger intl DJs some years ago -- with respect to TA/Music Discussion forum.

There is a natural progression towards more negativity as a forum grows -- not necessarily because the people who are joining are of a different mindset than those prior -- but more so that the 'safety in numbers' allows for an anonymity that wasn't possible earlier.

MTL is a smaller forum than TOTA so it has a core group of regulars whose views are familiar amongst themselves (for the most part). If someone wants to post something negative about a promoter/artist/event/venue then they have to be ready to back it up on their own -- especially if it goes against the views of the core group. If you're a newbie who is not familiar amongst regulars then your opinion has a much higher chance of being completely ignored - trampled upon simply because you're outnumbered.

With TOTA being larger you automatically have a different set of circumstances to deal with. There are core groups of posters but some have a 'clique-ish' mentality which allows them an identity that will separate them from the other groups. The 'community' feel will fade as its size grows - its inevitable - the only way to counter this is to form sub-groups that maintain that feel. Sometimes, relations between these groups are less than amicable in nature as they each try to mark their territory on TA. Now, each group tends to have their quirks (i.e. - "house sucks", "trance sucks", "DJ ____ sucks", "____ must be a slut like omg look at her pic", etc).

Enter the negative poster - a newbie - he/she signs up just to bitch about whatever, sometimes never to be seen again. Now, since TOTA is larger there is a greater chance of finding people that agree with your opinion -- and since there are multiple core groups of posters then you will at least find some support in one of the groups -- or at least a few members of a particular group -- who will, if necessary, rally the others to their cause and so the shitfest/flamewar begins.

Enter the negative poster - the regular - he/she feels safe posting their opinion since some amongst their core group will back them up making their voice stronger (strength in numbers!).

Enter the DJ who reads a review thread only to see that someone thought their set sucked. This is a HUGE jolt to the ego the first few times it happens... Imagine touring the world, having ppl trampling over each other to get your autograph, professing their love of your music to your face and saying they'll name their kids after you, etc. Now, they go online, and see some bad comments and wonder where this is all coming from - it can't be true! - the people love me - they tell me all the time!! Yes, many people do love you and your music but those who don't (or didn't that one time) have few outlets to let others know what they think - so they come onto forums like TA to speak their mind. God forbid they actually go to the DJ's official site and enter their forums to post a negative comment - they'd be EATEN ALIVE by the loyal fans and others would be afraid to voice support (even if they agreed).

The same goes for local DJs - they may not have their own official site/forums so they can only gauge their popularity by their resident nights and how successful they are. Week after week the place is packed, the crowd has a good time, and the world is a happy place (or so it seems). Enter the review thread -- the majority of comments are positive but that's what they're already used to - now someone says something negative -- "but, this can't be true - the club was jumpin' and smiles were found all over! Those TAs must be clued out!".

It is very difficult to read something negative about your set/music and not take it personally, it's as if it was your sole responsibility to make sure everyone in the club that night loved the music. Well, guess what, you can't please everyone and you never will. Those that you didn't please will sometimes take things a little too far, lose objectivity, and get personal (if necessary) if it means it'll make their voice heard. The others that agree with their negative comments will pipe in with their own two cents, even if they weren't present that night, simply because they have a dislike for DJ XYZ -- either because they're jealous, don't have a residency, or think they could program the music better that night -- because, of course, your set must've sucked because you played that track that is 3 months old -- never mind that the crowd still loves it.

Summary:

Everyone loves TA as long as it agrees with their opinion and/or they're getting something from it, they hate it once they read something they don't like.


I appreciate the response, I thank you for staying on topic and speaking on the subject, a rarity in a TA thread.

Here is my problem... you clearly descibed the characteristics of individuals on TA (and very well done, that should be saved for future reference for new users on the site) however, I find it unfortunate that people must fall into generalized characters and not just come on the site and appreciate the good, discuss the bad (not bash, discuss) and leave the rest at home.


Posted by tarrantella66 on Mar-05-2007 01:51:

quote:
Originally posted by all-nite-freak

Torontonians are nothing more than amish people with cellphones



PRICELESS!


Posted by shanny on Mar-05-2007 04:11:

quote:
Originally posted by all-nite-freak
Torontonians are nothing more than amish people with cellphones


I represent an amish person who has hired me to take care of his technological affairs and he wishes to pass along the message that he is deeply hurt by certain individuals using the amish way of life to make personal insults against a group of individuals.


Posted by Clublifexx on Mar-05-2007 05:14:

Interesting one, will get involved.

Dave, your comment has a lot of truth my man. You want to know where the problem is, look no further than this thread.

I post from time to time because of people like yourself and the ones you met in Montreal. Love partying with you guys and that type. You love the music, you go hard, and you are a positive mofo.

This represents less than half the TA's in Toronto, or Montreal for that matter. I mean, look at the nonsensical or negative shit being thrown around by both toronto and Mtrl people on this thread. Half these fools don't even set foot in the parties, or even like trance. To many, it is just a vessle for arguing, or stirring up shit from behind a box. A couple people close to me shun this site cuz of foolish people who have posted in this very thread.
Such is life on any forum.

You will meet some great party people or music minds here, u will read nonsense from far more retards. Try to ignore the monkeys, or if you need to reem one out, get it off your chest.
Been listening to this music for more than 10 years and had multiple TA accounts. Finally realized some of the people you meet here are worth dealing with a bunch of jackasses, few of whom actually show their faces.

Very true response by swamper as well.


Posted by Marcus007 on Mar-05-2007 08:13:

you know what TA i hate the most?

Tag.

rofl


Posted by Spin Laden on Mar-05-2007 15:11:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
LOL...right. I don't know what you have against me, but you couldn't be more wrong. And if you can't tell that most of my sex babble is a joke, then you're a moron.


I love it..Sarah Silverman with red hair


Posted by Silky Johnson on Mar-05-2007 17:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Spin Laden
I love it..Sarah Silverman with red hair





Please, I'm a lot less jewey.


Posted by Spin Laden on Mar-05-2007 17:17:

please take it as a compliment. Sarah Silverman sort of funny and cute and I would def give her my kishka


Posted by Alex on Mar-05-2007 17:29:

You call this a bagel?


Posted by PressPLay on Mar-05-2007 17:31:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Please, I'm a lot less jewey.


Shalom, jenny...how do you say ANAL in Hebrew or Yiddish???


Posted by Intellekshual on Mar-05-2007 19:37:

Re: Montreal TA's > Toronto TA's

quote:
Originally posted by YouReadyB

I had, the utmost pleasure of hanging out with some of the most wickedest, unique, caring and fun loving people I have ever come across.

Decided to hit up Christopher Lawrence at Stereo with a buddy of mine and happened to recognize one of Montreal's TA at the "stereobar replace" beside the club. She greeted me with the wickedest hug and then introduced me as "a toronto TA" to other TA's (MTL).


thank you. Last night was appreciated and will never be forgotten... I'll see you in two weeks for DJ VIBE.

MUCH LOVE


"She greeted me with the wickedest hug and then introduced me as "a toronto TA" to other TA's"

You're talking about me right? :P ...Everybody loves Selma's hugs! heehee

What an awesome party that was!, and It was an absolute pleasure to meet u and your friend and to share the dancefloor with you guys.
Definetly a night to remember..

Looking forward to partying with you again for DJ Vibe (I hope you'll be able to stay till the end...u left at 6 on Friday and missed Insomnia's set which was SICK!).
And as you already know, my friends and I always make sure our "guests" have a awesome time!


Posted by YouReadyB on Mar-05-2007 19:46:

Re: Re: Montreal TA's > Toronto TA's

quote:
Originally posted by Enigmatik
"She greeted me with the wickedest hug and then introduced me as "a toronto TA" to other TA's"

You're talking about me right? :P ...Everybody loves Selma's hugs! heehee

What an awesome party that was!, and It was an absolute pleasure to meet u and your friend and to share the dancefloor with you guys.
Definetly a night to remember..

Looking forward to partying with you again for DJ Vibe (I hope you'll be able to stay till the end...u left at 6 on Friday and missed Insomnia's set which was SICK!).
And as you already know, my friends and I always make sure our "guests" have a awesome time!


Totally! Thanks for the hospitality... the love was defintely felt and appreciated. DJ VIBE should be killer and yea, probably spend the night.. we'll see if the girlfriend comes to Toronto this time and we'll probably stay the night.

Thanks for reminding me what the scene SHOULD be like and hasn't been for me in the last little while.

ROCK THE F ON!


Posted by Skipper on Mar-05-2007 19:55:

Re: Montreal TA's > Toronto TA's

quote:
Originally posted by YouReadyB


MUCH LOVE

David A (YouReadyB)


You signed this post with MUCH LOVE?
haha.


Posted by YouReadyB on Mar-05-2007 19:57:

Re: Re: Montreal TA's > Toronto TA's

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
You signed this post with MUCH LOVE?
haha.


Always sign with much love,

My intention wasn't to attack.

I was merely trying to open the eyes of people who bash negatively.


Posted by TheVrk on Mar-05-2007 19:58:

Re: Re: Re: Montreal TA's > Toronto TA's

quote:
Originally posted by YouReadyB
Always sign with much love,

My intention wasn't to attack.

I was merely trying to open the eyes of people who bash negatively.

I think those ppl know, they just dont care


Posted by Marcus007 on Mar-05-2007 20:10:

yep

this is an online playground to them where they can be as mean as they want without suffering the consequences of being face to face with the person

youd be surprised how nice these people are in real life


Posted by Enjoy on Mar-05-2007 20:19:

I sometimes wish I could throat punch Tag over the internet though.


Posted by SummerWolf on Mar-05-2007 20:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Marcus007
yep

this is an online playground to them where they can be as mean as they want without suffering the consequences of being face to face with the person

youd be surprised how nice these people are in real life


yup, we call those people hypocrits.

i never understood why some people had to act differently online and offline. some people (not me) kinda get hurt for real online, and its kinda sad to see people take pleasure in hurting others and being cowards and hide behind a computer.


Posted by YouReadyB on Mar-05-2007 20:22:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Montreal TA's > Toronto TA's

quote:
Originally posted by TheVrk
I think those ppl know, they just dont care


Right, but if enough of the "other" people do care... maybe, we can change some things.

just food for thought really.

Individuals can change the world, why not TA?

WHOOOOOOOOOOO!

KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

It was worth the time to write because enough people thanked me in pirvate and on MSN. People were happy to have it voiced, so if it doesn't CHANGE anything atleast i was able to speak the opinion of people who don't want to voice out.


Posted by Intellekshual on Mar-05-2007 20:24:

quote:
Originally posted by SummerWolf
yup, we call those people hypocrits.

i never understood why some people had to act differently online and offline. some people (not me) kinda get hurt for real online, and its kinda sad to see people take pleasure in hurting others and being cowards and hide behind a computer.

Couldn't agree more.
I fail to understand why people act totally different online...And I've met a number of those..they're total A-holes online but absolute sweethearts in real life.. Je trouve ca bizzare.

I couldn't act different or mean if I try...I'm the exact same person online as I am in real life. I even talk the same way I type.


Posted by Marcus007 on Mar-05-2007 20:29:

I think I'm pretty much the same in real life too. :P


Posted by Enjoy on Mar-05-2007 20:43:

So you ACT online? Stop toying with our emotions, Marcus, stop it!


Posted by Spin Laden on Mar-05-2007 20:43:

'Just curious, what is this Jennie 3.14159 like in person? Me, I'm pretty easy going and le chill, but I can squash you and steal your gf at the same time if need be

For more details go to hotornot.com


Posted by ~*Stereohead*~ on Mar-05-2007 20:44:

Same here.


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