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Posted by Pjotr G on Aug-28-2002 19:20:

I guess you could time stretch it if you know what notes you're gonna use.

metal sounds....try frequency modulation (FM synthesis)


Posted by Trancevision on Aug-29-2002 12:06:

now it's time to get things done, what I want is to make a Tranceaddict Reason Refill for Version 1.0 and above with the following kind of sounds:

- a typical SHOKK LEAD ( provided by me )
- a good trance lead once made by Cyrus 2K
- some typical Scott Project Bassdrums and Bassline singly synths
( hoping for Pjotr G and Tom_cowan )
- some basic often requested acid sound ( provided by me )
- a subtractor Rank 1 Pad ( provided by me )
- some Virus samples ( hoping for Joi Lamusic )
- some JP8000 samples ( hoping for Vizay )
- some other gread leads ( perhaps from Robstar, Lightworks,
Robert...?)

If someone just needs the samples ( Fruity Users ) I am sure we can find a solution too.
Together we can make a great refill with some awesome sounds for everyone...

Trancevision


Posted by Tom_cowan on Aug-29-2002 14:51:

Sounds like a plan, ull have to give me a while tho, iv got a virus c so i can send in some n-19 patches from that to.

Oh yeah n if u dont like what i send you dont use it, make sure the refill is quality over quantity.


Posted by cyrus2k2 on Aug-29-2002 16:43:

yeah, seems to be a good idea.
lets see if i can provide some other sounds. but as tom said, it's quality over quantity, so it's up to you wheter you use it or not.


Posted by Vizay on Aug-29-2002 17:09:

ok brace yourselves now coz i have some good news


I've taken some time to download the whole archive of theese synths so far from analogue samples.com


Juno 106
Access virus (some really good samples in here)
JP8000
Novation supernova (wasn't as good as i expected but it works)
MS2000


and I'm working on getting the nordlead 1 & 2 frm there to

just tell me wich ones you wan't for the refill and I'll send it over

[edit] ohh btw i can setup all the samples on my webserver later tonight so you can review all the samples and take the good ones if ya want


Posted by DJ Chrono on Aug-30-2002 04:34:

you still have those supernova samples I made for you trancevision?

if not, I can send them again, just let me know what you need.


Posted by tranzMental on Aug-30-2002 17:22:

A Did a reading of this thread; and I think it's great for all these aspiring producers: Including me!



NE Wayz, I'm an amateur producer using Fruity Loops (OF COURSE! ANOTHER ONE!) and I was wondering how you do hard pounding kicks, rather than sampling. That's right, with the regular kick that comes with the program, how do you acheive the sounds of a hard trance producer such as 'Warmduscher', or 'Scott Project', or even 'S.h.o.k.k.', and 'Flutlicht'. I'm just curious, cuz I wouldn't mind making my own hard trance songs. Been producin for 5 months, and I've been havin a blast. NE Wayz, I wanna see this thread alive!!! Please answer! To all those GREAT Trance producers on Trance Addict who helped me in that past. Thanks. -Mental



Posted by cyrus2k2 on Aug-30-2002 18:10:

well, getting a hard punching kickdrum is quit simple.
first of all you need some material to start with. i always start with a simple 909 kick. you can use a sample or some kind of drumsynth (like the one that comes with fruity 3.55 or waldorf attack) to generate those sound easily.
ok, now put some effects onto that channel. use the fruity compressor and the distortion plugin and play with those settings. that's it!


Posted by Joi Lamusic on Aug-31-2002 08:28:

Love Poundin' Sensation

Hey! This' veeery great idea!!

About Virus sounds...I do have the Virus Indigo (it's not my own but I can use time to time). So yeah, I can get some sounds of it in

Trancevision, send me some ICQ messages about this so I know where to upload those sounds and so on.

Happy if I can help anyway at all


Posted by Joi Lamusic on Aug-31-2002 08:32:

And how to do that hardtrance kick in Reason..?


Posted by cyrus2k2 on Aug-31-2002 12:45:

sorry no clue, i'm a fruity-addicted
haven't worked with reason yet. and probably i never will.

but you can 'prepare' your samples in soundforge or wavelab and then load it into reason. there are some realy good and free vst-fx-plugins out there. most of them include great distortion, eq and compression effects.

try some of these:

tk fx pack
js fx pack
bj fx pack

i cant' remember the links so you gotta visit google.com

cheers


Posted by Michael Russo on Aug-31-2002 16:32:

Nice cyrus
Do you have any more percussion tips? I synthesize my stuff as well, but I'm not sure what effects to put on for a final polish.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-31-2002 18:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Joi Lamusic
And how to do that hardtrance kick in Reason..?


Try the PercuStuff refill


Posted by Vizay on Aug-31-2002 20:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery


Try the PercuStuff refill


now that was an absolute BADASS refill.......the best of everything....man I'm in love now

(don't get any expectaions now mystery....i meant the refill)


Posted by Tom_cowan on Sep-02-2002 11:00:

Reasons awesome for fukin around with kickdrums. I normally start with a kick off a sample cd loaded onto a nn19, a 909 or something. Then use the envelopes on it to make it sound sharper, like compression and maybe the filter to cut off some high. Then add another kickdrum sample on another nn19 and layer them over the top of each other, if you cut the low out on this one and wack up the gain you get a much sharper kick sound. I then tweek the kick when everythings playing because it can often get drowned out if its a thick mix.

Basicly its not hard to get a good kick sound when its playing on its own but your main concern should be how it sounds when the mix is at its thickest.


Posted by Joi Lamusic on Sep-02-2002 14:21:

Tom, thanks I'll go and try that when I'll get back home.


Posted by Trancevision on Sep-02-2002 17:22:

quote:
Reasons awesome for fukin around with kickdrums. I normally start with a kick off a sample cd loaded onto a nn19, a 909 or something. Then use the envelopes on it to make it sound sharper, like compression and maybe the filter to cut off some high. Then add another kickdrum sample on another nn19 and layer them over the top of each other, if you cut the low out on this one and wack up the gain you get a much sharper kick sound. I then tweek the kick when everythings playing because it can often get drowned out if its a thick mix.


wow, that's good stuff Tom_Cowan
I want you to make some bassdrums for the TRANCEADDICT.RFL for Reason ( if you got the time and if you like to ) ? This would be awesome I think...

Trancevision


Posted by methose on Sep-03-2002 04:10:

That kick post for reason works really well. Nice thick kick. I set one kick channel left and one right and gave the right channel a little bit of an attack. it gave it a wider sound. Also i added a really deep bass line to the left channel with a little bit of attack and a low pass and a cloned bass line on the right channel with no attack and and a delay on both channels and it sounded deep and thick.


Posted by Tom_cowan on Sep-03-2002 09:03:

Ill send some in that ive used b4 but the best thing you can do is get a load of kickdrum samples(ne drum sample cd) n play around with them till you get a kick which suits the tune.

Another good thing to do to make a kick more dirty is to load it into an nn19, low pass filter it and drop the pitch by about 2 octaves. Then load the same sample into another nn19 stick a high pass on it and play it at normal pitch. Its more suited to techno really but could work well in a dark trance tune.


Posted by methose on Sep-04-2002 00:17:

that sounds neat. lets keep posting ideas on this thread. Try this simple one out.. when making a dark trance drum loop. and foldback distortion. it gives it a sweet gritty but dark sound. make sure you add a compressor and a lil reverb


Posted by Bondor on Sep-04-2002 02:18:

heres another reverb tip

when fading in a synth or anything for that matter rase the reverb b4 the synth startes and slowly lower it as the synth fades in

sounds tight very subtle

bondor


Posted by Taz on Sep-04-2002 02:38:

quote:
That kick post for reason works really well. Nice thick kick. I set one kick channel left and one right and gave the right channel a little bit of an attack. it gave it a wider sound. Also i added a really deep bass line to the left channel with a little bit of attack and a low pass and a cloned bass line on the right channel with no attack and and a delay on both channels and it sounded deep and thick.


Hmm...spreading bass around the stereo field tends to be a traditional no-no in dance music, because it makes the needle skip once you press it to vinyl.

That being said, if you check out Moony - Dove (I'll Be Loving You) with headphones, the bassline is phased in big fat stereo. I don't know how they got away with that.


Posted by methose on Sep-04-2002 02:48:

Yo Taz. adding attack to left channel minimizes this expecially if you use two slightly different bass sounds.. i used the Bread bass for the right channel and a garage bass for the the left channel and it really does sound nice.


Posted by Trancevision on Sep-08-2002 09:38:

the Refill

I still need some REALLY phat bassdrums,some bass sounds and
some sounds for the subtractor part of the Refills...

who in general is interested for the Tranceaddict Refill
and who can help me to finish it ?


Trancevision


Posted by Martin McG on Sep-08-2002 15:30:

====> BUMP <====

come on keep this thread alive we need more replies of tips etc in here anyone got any more great info to share in here?


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