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to quote a calgary news source

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Legendary wrestler Bret Hart had to stop and compose himself often when talking fondly of a man considered his brother and friend. "I don't know the details, and I'm not sure I even want to know," said Hart, just hours after learning of the discovery of Benoit's body -- along with those of his wife and son -- in his suburban Atlanta home. "He was like a family member to me, and everyone in my family is taking it real hard. "It's almost like reliving the whole Owen (Hart) death over again." At a young age, Benoit, an Edmonton native, became a standout among many wrestling prospects who trained in the famed 'dungeon' basement of the Hart family's home in Calgary. "Chris was always one of the good guys -- a straight guy and a hard-working guy," Hart said. "When you list off all the qualities of someone like Benoit, he had a lot of integrity and was a good, family man. "He was really respected and really loved by everybody." Bret's older brother Ross Hart, a producer and former part-time wrestler, further described the onetime 'Canadian Crippler' as respectful, polite and very humble. "We kind of adopted him when he first broke into the business in 1986," said Ross, adding Benoit was a huge fan of Stampede Wrestling and idolized The Dynamite Kid. He's been an outstanding mentor to the next generation of Hart family wrestlers, said Ross and Bret's sister Diana. That's especially true of the last six months in Atlanta, where Harry Smith (son of the late Davey Boy Smith), Nattie Neidhart (daughter of Jim Neidhart), T.J. Wilson (Nattie Neidhart's fiance) and Ted Hart (Ross' nephew) had been training close to Benoit. "My son Harry and the others have all been talking about all the great plans that were to come with Chris mentoring them," said Diana, the former wife of Davey Boy Smith.

Whatever's happened, people like this, who knew them are always going to take it hard. Forget people making fun of it trivially, it will obviously affect a lot of people.

What is it going to take for people to figure out that 300+ days a year on the road using a combination of both painkillers and growth horomones/steroids isn't exactly a winning combination?

Honestly - I'm shocked that there aren't people in the industry stepping up and addressing this issue more vehemently.

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Originally posted by RJT What is it going to take for people to figure out that 300+ days a year on the road using a combination of both painkillers and growth horomones/steroids isn't exactly a winning combination? Honestly - I'm shocked that there aren't people in the industry stepping up and addressing this issue more vehemently.

Many families have sued Vince McMahon, and the WWE. But he has so much money, it's hard to touch him, I guess. He's a slave driver.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers Many families have sued Vince McMahon, and the WWE. But he has so much money, it's hard to touch him, I guess. He's a slave driver.

It's not just Vince McMahon's fault - this has been going on since long before that douche put himself in front of the camera's or really had anything to do with administering the WWF.

It really does reach all the way down to the most fundamental levels of how the wrestling business works. They need a union.

Wrestling needs seasons just like sports and television shows.

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Originally posted by weymouth Wrestling needs seasons just like sports and television shows.

I think that's probably pretty accurate.

what do they say about wrestlers being role models ??

Here are details from a law enforcement news conference held Tuesday afternoon regarding what is now ruled as a double homicide/suicide involving Chris Benoit, wife Nancy and seven-year-old son Daniel in their Atlanta-area home:

X: Fayette (Ga.) County district attorney Scott Ballard said law enforcement officials believe Benoit killed his wife Nancy on Friday night via affixation, then did the same to Daniel on Saturday morning before hanging himself Saturday night.

X: Ballard said Nancy Sullivan�s wrists and feet were bound with tape and that there was some blood under her head. Ballard said Sullivan was found in an upstairs living room area. Daniel Benoit was found dead in his own bed in his upstairs bedroom. A bible was placed next to the body of Nancy and Daniel.

X: Benoit hung himself with a cord in his basement weight room.

X: Anabolic steroids and what was described by one law-enforcement official as �lots� of what is believed legal prescription medication were found in the house. A complete list of medications may be given to the media at a later date.

X: A WWE �co-worker� [believed Chavo Guerrero] received a text message on a delayed basis from Benoit. Officials declined to elaborate on what information the messages contained.

X: Benoit was previously arrested in the Atlanta area on a DUI charge but has no record of a previous arrest for domestic violence.

X: There was no suicide note left inside the house.

X: �In a community like this, it�s bizarre to have a murder/suicide, especially involving the death of a seven-year-old child,� Mallard said. �That�s what struck me the most in all this: There�s a seven- year-old little boy who�s dead. I don�t think I�ll ever be able to wrap my mind around that completely.�

�It struck me as somewhat bizarre that he would even be in the home with their deceased bodies all that time � I�m baffled why anyone would kill a seven year old. I don�t have any idea at all about a motive.�

X: Keep checking wreslingobserver.com for more details as they are available.

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Originally posted by DarkAngel

He was my favorite, I loved watching all those quality matches last night..

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Originally posted by chach He was my favorite, I loved watching all those quality matches last night..

I missed that show last night.

Man, I can't believe he's gone.

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Originally posted by DarkAngel I missed that show last night. Man, I can't believe he's gone.

I saw the first half hour, but I was majorly tired & had to be up early. Apparently now he's been shown to be a murderer, vince doesn't want it shown anywhere else. Funny how vince himself has supported people who've commited crimes forever & ever.

It was a good show and it was a great tribute to the guy. I could not hold back my tears when i saw Chavo's video, it was just too much. WWE actully lost millions of money because it was an cancelled event, surprising move from Vince. ECW & smackdown tapings tonight will only contain matches without storylines whatsoever.

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Originally posted by trancedanne It was a good show and it was a great tribute to the guy. I could not hold back my tears when i saw Chavo's video, it was just too much. WWE actully lost millions of money because it was an cancelled event, surprising move from Vince. ECW & smackdown tapings tonight will only contain matches without storylines whatsoever.

pretty much as i expected. hopefully we'll get some interesting & long matches like edge vs cm punk, chavo vs malenko (i could see dean doing this as a one off), cena vs mvp, kennedy doing something fun etc

more news

Bill Simmons of ESPN.com wrote in his blog that the Benoit Family Tragedy is the single biggest sports story of the year, even though, as he notes, pro wrestling isn't technically a full-fledged sport.

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Bill Simmons: (3:41 PM ET ) I am still gathering my thoughts, waiting for all the facts to come out. It just doesn't seem like any non-wrestling fan realizes how huge this story is to everyone who actually follows wrestling - in my opinion, it's the biggest sports story of the year even though wrestling technically isn't a sport. Benoit was one of the 12-15 greatest wrestlers of the past 30 years. For the wrestling world, it's like the OJ thing all over again - only its worse because his little son was involved. It might be the single worst sports story since the Rae Carruth thing.

Bill Simmons: (3:43 PM ET ) The weird part was the WWE inexplicably running the 3-hour Benoit tribute on Raw last night - by the time it re-aired on the West Coast, reports were starting to come out that it was possibly a double murder-suicide... I don't know how they let that show continue to run. One of the weirdest TV moments ever. I was really creeped out.

the OJ thing puts it REALLY well.

and

PWTorch can now report the content of the text message sent by Chris Benoit to Chavo Guerrero on Sunday morning. The message, according to our sources, said that the sliding glass doors to his house were open and the dogs had been fed. No one was quite sure what to make of it, but he wasn't reachable afterward for clarification.

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Originally posted by Ian PWTorch can now report the content of the text message sent by Chris Benoit to Chavo Guerrero on Sunday morning. The message, according to our sources, said that the sliding glass doors to his house were open and the dogs had been fed. No one was quite sure what to make of it, but he wasn't reachable afterward for clarification.

Wow. Horrible.

yeah he's dead who gives a shit

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Originally posted by Paulino yeah he's dead who gives a shit

for someone who's repeatedly been banned, you're still a bit thick in using your own name. Clever boy.


And Rob, yeah. it's freaky, they think it was all very thought out. WWE.com has a very good thing about it all, which i'll post here cos their site takes a while to load, but it tries to bring things into perspective.


STAMFORD, Conn., June 26, 2007 � World Wrestling Entertainment is stunned and saddened by the details released by local authorities concerning the double homicide-suicide involving Chris Benoit, his wife, Nancy, and his son, Daniel.

However, WWE is concerned with the sensationalistic reporting and speculation being undertaken by some members of the media following the press conference held by the Fayette County Sheriff�s Department and the District Attorney. During the press conference, the investigating authorities made the following points, all of which run contrary to the media speculation that "roid rage" was a factor in the senseless murders and suicide:

1. The authorities stated that all drugs found in the house were believed to be legal prescriptions.

2. Steroids were not, and could not, be related to the cause of death (asphyxiation). Authorities had no factual basis to speculate as to Benoit�s state of mind, and rightly did not do so.

3. Toxicology tests have not even been completed, so there is no current evidence that Benoit even had steroids or any other substance in his body. In that regard, on the last test done on Benoit by WWE's independently administered drug testing program, done on April 10, 2007, Benoit tested negative.

4. The physical findings announced by authorities indicate deliberation, not rage. The wife's feet and hands were bound and she was asphyxiated, not beaten to death. By the account of the authorities, there were substantial periods of time between the death of the wife and the death of the son, again suggesting deliberate thought, not rage. The presence of a Bible by each is also not an act of rage.

5. WWE strongly suggests that it is entirely wrong for speculators to suggest that steroids had anything to do with these senseless acts, especially when the authorities plainly stated there is no evidence that Benoit had steroids in his body, pending the toxicological reports, and that they had no evidence at this time as to the motive for these acts.

WWE is continuing to monitor the ongoing investigation being conducted by local authorities

credit- http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/benoitpressrelease

hahah WWE cares more about steroid use rather than chris benoit just to save their own asses.

i take my r.i.p. back, fuck the cvnt

Well assuming that he IS guilty there's got to be reason for him to do it. People with things going for them don't just snap for no reason.

It's way easier to dismiss him and label him a fucked up murderer than to try and understand what really happened and what circumstances led to those unfortunate events.

You don't have to agree with it (I don't agree with taking the life of another) but at least get the full story before passing judgment.

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Originally posted by eRRaTiK Well assuming that he IS guilty there's got to be reason for him to do it. People with things going for them don't just snap for no reason. It's way easier to dismiss him and label him a fucked up murderer than to try and understand what really happened and what circumstances led to those unfortunate events. You don't have to agree with it (I don't agree with taking the life of another) but at least get the full story before passing judgment.

Examples of more-acceptable murder of wife and child that would make me change my judgment?

yeah whats the motive? imo it could be plot for the wwe to become famous again or he didn't pay dues with the steriods and some hitman got to em

and was boniot a religious man? the bible placement looks crafty

and does he have a mental ilness history that would lead to these events?

imo benoit was respected by many poeple, it just doesn't make sense

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Originally posted by Paulino yeah whats the motive? imo it could be plot for the wwe to become famous again or he didn't pay dues with the steriods and some hitman got to em

perhaps out of respect to ALL of them, you could keep that sort of bs out of here. the wwe statement was very biased to them but was true in many ways. we don't yet know if he was on anything. Perhaps after his neck fusion surgery he got addicted to them to rebuild himself up, but he had been passing the wellness tests, the last of which was in april this year.

Mentally, nobody will ever know, but everyone will speculate, as to what he was thinking. I can't begin to understand why he did it, but I want to. In many ways I need some sort of answer for myself so I can stop thinking about it, he was a hero to me, because he wasn't someone who was just huge and talentless, he was trained well and by the best (Stu Hart) and had a real class about him in the ring. Right now, I'm just numb. I don't want to believe he could do it, but I know he probably did. However it won't change a lot about the fact I respect him for what he's done in the business. Like many, he maybe couldn't take it. think Kevin Von Erich, Eddie Guerrero, Andre the Giant, Yokozuna, and so many many more. They all died because they did things to their bodies to entertain people. Be it being unhealthy sizes, or drugs, they've paid the price for it. We just have to remember they're doing so much, on the road at least 250 days a year. it has to have some sort of knock on effect.

And tbh, if you wanna bash him for being on 'roids if it's shown he was, they're no different than many drugs people here glamorize taking. How would u expect us to react if under the influence of something, you did something like that. just a thought anyway..

"real class in the ring"

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