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Posted by Yohan on Jul-12-2007 05:48:

Spain 4-2 Brazil

Wasn't paying too close of attention, but Brazil dominated scoring twice but Spain comes back with 2 flukey goals.

Spain turns it up extra time and scores 2 goals.

Diego Capel had an impressive game.

Entertaining with plenty of attack


Posted by SPANIARD on Jul-12-2007 15:58:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
Spain 4-2 Brazil

Wasn't paying too close of attention, but Brazil dominated scoring twice but Spain comes back with 2 flukey goals.

Spain turns it up extra time and scores 2 goals.

Diego Capel had an impressive game.

Entertaining with plenty of attack

We missed alot of chances but we deserved the win IMO. We were really unlucky not to score before Brazil in the first half, just couldn't find a way past their keeper or create an opening. With all due respect to Brazil, aside from their 2 goals, their other chances came from the Spanish Defense's mistakes. Their creation was very poor and side from individual talent, they showed next to nothing. At the end of the day, beating Brazil is always something to celebrate, so bring on the Czechs .

Chile-Portugal should be another war today. I have a feeling Portugal will bounce back into form... not saying they will win, but definetly will look more lively.


Posted by Zentac_75 on Jul-12-2007 16:32:

WOOT WOOT!!! I just got 2 tickets for $180!!! ($30) above face value . I think 6 or 7th row back for

Poland vs. Argentina.

I'm on my way to pick'em up, and...
I'll know in an hour if my boy can reach or he's a dirty sellout because he'd rathar spend a thrusday with his girlfriend who he sees everyday than support his birth nation's U-20 soccer team (very rare opportunity).

If its the latter I'll be selling the second ticket at the stadium.
PM after I post back with the answer.


Posted by Yohan on Jul-12-2007 23:40:

Chile vs Portugal right now


Posted by Yohan on Jul-13-2007 01:38:

lol @ Portuguese player snatching red card away from the ref and also getting sent off

lame match overall. Portugal couldn't get anything going. Chile dominated first half but content to sit on the ball on their 1-0 lead


Posted by SPANIARD on Jul-13-2007 01:48:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
lol @ Portuguese player snatching red card away from the ref and also getting sent off

You beat me to the punch... my dad, in 63 years of watching soccer had never seen anything like that. I think it might actually be a memorable match for that!

BTW, Craig Forrest was complaining about the Uruguayans being bad losers and diving/cheating... that was nothing compared to this. The Americans got a controversial last goal and were talking alot of shit to the Uruguayans, their anger was justified although I wouldn't condone their actions. Ok, yes tonight the ref got it all wrong, but the way Portugal reacted in the last minute there was unacceptable. That first action could have been just a yellow, but credit the Chileans for not turning it into an all out brawl which could have easily happened. But then the grand finale, the grabbing of the card. This had to be the most disgraceful thing of the whole tournament, especially because the player didn't even realise what he did wrong.. he was just crying. Yeah people compare him to C.Ronaldo... they're right; he sucks, he crys, he's a baby.....


Posted by Zentac_75 on Jul-13-2007 02:08:

The game was not a good game to watch live (both teams played soft)...

the polish atmosphere was awsome....

until we started to lose.

I love the support but am dissapointed with the result. That includes seeing almost double digit polish fans being arrested/ejected for behaving like hooligans.

I'm all for patriotism but do not agree with perpetuating the 'drunken polak hooligan' stereotype.

I hope I just saw the worst of it because I did meet a lot of wonderfully patriotic and considerate polish soccer fans.


Posted by Tiesto4Life on Jul-13-2007 02:47:

Sergio Aguero

kid's got talent


Posted by dEsidEL on Jul-13-2007 02:48:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
lol @ Portuguese player snatching red card away from the ref and also getting sent off




lol it was Zequinha who grabbed the card.. i nearly died laughing after seeing the reaction. and yes he did look like C. Ronaldo as he walked off in tears. f'n jokes never seen anything like it .. a classic forsure


Posted by LKD on Jul-13-2007 04:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Zentac_75
WOOT WOOT!!! I just got 2 tickets for $180!!! ($30) above face value . I think 6 or 7th row back for

Poland vs. Argentina.

I'm on my way to pick'em up, and...
I'll know in an hour if my boy can reach or he's a dirty sellout because he'd rathar spend a thrusday with his girlfriend who he sees everyday than support his birth nation's U-20 soccer team (very rare opportunity).

If its the latter I'll be selling the second ticket at the stadium.
PM after I post back with the answer.



which section were u?? then again it doesnt matter..it was disappointing cos argentina really played well..especially #17...little kid like that on offence...crazy


Posted by Zentac_75 on Jul-13-2007 12:57:

quote:
Originally posted by El Kay Dee
which section were u?? then again it doesnt matter..it was disappointing cos argentina really played well..especially #17...little kid like that on offence...crazy


My stoner friend made picking up the tickets incredibally more complicated than it had to be. So I just went down and scalped some tickets. Mid Field 200 level.

They seemed really bad when I was walking there, but ended up being real great seats. I could see the whole field with ease. Very satisfied with how the game looks from that distance.

I also spent a small portion watching from the corner by the beer garden. Always love watching a few minutes from there with all the rowdys.

Side Note: Man does it suck wearing a polska jersey after a loss...Every other person was apologizing to me all night long. Did I really look that distraught ??? lol


Posted by LKD on Jul-13-2007 17:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Zentac_75
Side Note: Man does it suck wearing a polska jersey after a loss...Every other person was apologizing to me all night long. Did I really look that distraught ??? lol


we cheered other polska jersey wearers and vice versa after the match..dont know if u caught the polska dude that lit the flare by the ticket area after the match and then was told by cops to put it out and he started a fight with them and booked it..lol


Posted by Zentac_75 on Jul-13-2007 18:04:

I didn't see that one, but I saw at least 8 other poles get arrested. I mean they were actually asking for it. After harrassing Argentinian fans, I saw one told to chill by security and he followed up by raising his scarf and saying "WTF you gonna do about it".

He was then pinned to the ground with his hands behind his back while screaming "im not resisting" although he was clearly resisting the whole time.

I love my poles but I witnessed some behaviour yesterday that I label

"disgrace to a nation"

Some folks do anything for attention.


Posted by Yohan on Jul-13-2007 19:03:

^Those oxygen thieves needs to have the balls exposed to radiation. Eliminate them from the gene pool


Posted by Zentac_75 on Jul-13-2007 20:30:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
^Those oxygen thieves needs to have the balls exposed to radiation. Eliminate them from the gene pool




Evolution certainly has its hiccups.

Oxygen thieves is quite the term btw.

I also like wastes of genetic material.


Posted by dEsidEL on Jul-14-2007 00:36:



sorry guys .. it must to be done




Posted by teufel-man on Jul-14-2007 02:32:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


sorry guys .. it must to be done





hahaha i love like after the foul when the black guy from portugal pushes the other dude over, and then the dude that got pushes rolls around like he has serious brain damage or something... if that happened in hockey the dude woulda got back up and beat the hell out of the guy...


like i love soccer but i cant stand the diving and overall pussyness, just to get the ref to give the dude a penalty, its embarassing for the game and i think that its a big reason why many americans (USA and Canada) dont like soccer, it doesnt seem to be a "man's sport" like hockey, football, etc.

you never really see any soccer brawls because instead of fighting back the guys are busy trying to act like they are seriously hurt

it also entertains me when one of the guys is laying down on the field for 5 mins, then they bring him onto the sideline with a stretcher and they as soon as he gets to the sidelines he just gets up and runs back into the play....

in the 4 main 'american' sports, hockey, basketball, baseball, and footbal, rarely would you ever see someone dive, but in soccer it happens about every 5 mins....


Posted by SPANIARD on Jul-14-2007 14:54:

quote:
Originally posted by teufel-man
you never really see any soccer brawls because instead of fighting back the guys are busy trying to act like they are seriously hurt

That's because soccer has morals. You fight in hockey, 2 min penalty; you fight in soccer, you're suspended 2 games.

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL

sorry guys .. it must to be done

Sorry? This was my laugh of the week.


Posted by teufel-man on Jul-14-2007 16:22:

quote:
Originally posted by SPANIARD
That's because soccer has morals. You fight in hockey, 2 min penalty; you fight in soccer, you're suspended 2 games.


its because soccer has morals????

NO! they are two totally different games, fighting is just part of the game when it comes to hockey, hockey is a contact sport, soccer seems to be an actors sport unfortunately

pretending to be hurt so that your team gets a free kick is IMMORAL! two guys dropping the gloves in an intense game and then going to the box for 5 mins is just part of the game

it seems now that in soccer, diving is also just part of the game


Posted by SPANIARD on Jul-14-2007 16:57:

quote:
Originally posted by teufel-man
its because soccer has morals????

NO! they are two totally different games, fighting is just part of the game when it comes to hockey, hockey is a contact sport, soccer seems to be an actors sport unfortunately

pretending to be hurt so that your team gets a free kick is IMMORAL! two guys dropping the gloves in an intense game and then going to the box for 5 mins is just part of the game

it seems now that in soccer, diving is also just part of the game

I do agree with what you're saying about diving, I never argued that and never will. It is, unfortunately, too accepted as part of today's game.

My main point is this: in soccer, because it's not as much of a contact sport as hockey or football or rugby etc, it does make for harsher calls on contact. You hit someone in the face, you're sent off, no questions asked. So, like for example Rivaldo in the WC in 2002, you see a Academy Award nomination all for the 1 man advantage. In Hockey, where contact is acceptable under 'reason', you see guys like Scott Stevens putting people in coma's from 'clean' checks and not even a penalty is called. I can go on all day of extreme examples from both ends, but at the end of the day, I would say being knocked out cold even if it's legal is much more immoral than diving. Players are not to blame for this, the leagues are. Once the rules get cracked down, the game's will change. If that ever happens... well... completely different argument.


Posted by Stilez on Jul-14-2007 17:28:

quote:
Originally posted by teufel-man
it doesnt seem to be a "man's sport" like hockey, football, etc.

in the 4 main 'american' sports, hockey, basketball, baseball, and footbal, rarely would you ever see someone dive, but in soccer it happens about every 5 mins....


1) To base a sport on whether or not it's a 'MAN's SPORT' by the level of violence or aggression in it, then you have truly been completely and utterly raped in the ass with the American way of thinking.

- This has been one of the major topics of discussion surrounding Hockey as you're aware. Baseball, there's rarely any contact between players, football ---they wear equipment and is a full contact sport - unlike soccer/futbol. It's the major difference between European based sports and aggressive American sports.

2) I know u just did not say they don't dive in other sports???? you've got to be shitting me~! Isn't that a major complain in hockey? what about basketball? have you ever watched a game? they all over do fouls...because it'll get them to the line. The only 2 sports you won't see it too much is Baseball & Football.. that's because (as mentioned before) Baseball - there's not that much contact between opposing teams, and Football is a full contact sport where they're fully padded and expect to get hit and hit others.

If you have ever played a sport where little to no equipment is used such as Tennis, Soccer, Basketball, etc... then you would know first hand...that landing on the floor/ground or being directly hit by another player hurts 100x more because you're either running at full speed, jumping, or whatever else and to then be hit is like running into a wall. You can't compare it to sports where you use full body equipment like hockey or football.


Posted by PressPLay on Jul-14-2007 21:06:

U.S. is out because Austria just finished them this afternoon!


Posted by dEsidEL on Jul-15-2007 16:05:

quote:
Originally posted by PressPLay
U.S. is out because Austria just finished them this afternoon!




oh well, at least they played a lot more valiantly than Canada did..

quote:

Sad to see dignified U.S. go out
July 15, 2007
Cathal Kelly

It's an unfamiliar feeling for a Canadian watching the U.S. get knocked out from a major international tournament � sadness.

The neighbour we all not-so-secretly love to hate is just plain likable when it takes the soccer pitch.

Their skill is part of it. American teams always play aggressive, attractive soccer. But it's their attitude that sets them apart. In a game full of whiners, divers and handbag swingers, American soccer players carry themselves with a little more dignity than their opponents.

They lost to Austria yesterday, 2-1 in extra time. It was a wet, sloppy affair played in a steady downpour. The sodden ball skidded away from the players and goalkeepers, soft passes rocketing off into touch time and again. Reduced to 10 men in extra time, the Americans could not hold back the Austrian tide.

Super-sub Erwin Hoffer � the name `Jimmy' shaved into the side of his head � knocked in the winning goal in the 105th minute.

Austria moves forward to play the Czech Republic, which beat Spain on penalty kicks last night after a 1-1 tie. The Austrians deserved their win, but that can't stop us from missing the U.S.

"We won fans over with our technical ability, our attacking football," U.S. coach Thomas Rongen said after the match.

Of course, that was part of it. But it was the heart on display that was notable. Take U.S. keeper Chris Seitz.

Playing with a thigh injury so serious it prevented him from taking his own goal kicks, Seitz was a tower of strength. In the first half, he saved a shot point-blank with his chin and never flinched. In the second half, two crucial saves left him reeling, eyes rolling. Even though he probably should have, he refused to come off.

By the end, he could barely walk. He staggered around chasing loose balls, kicking them feebly up to his frantic teammates. Watching Seitz's performance, it was impossible not to feel some cross-continental fealty. From a purely sporting perspective, Mexico or Argentina are a greater pleasure to watch. But they retain the annoying habits that plague this game � going down too easily and for too long, begging for calls and berating referees.

There's been worse in this tournament, embarrassing scenes where some players have looked more like children than young men. Take the head-shaking chaos in the Chile-Portugal playoff encounter, including the too-stupid-to-be-believed snatching of a red card from the referee's hand.

The U.S. encountered a little of that spite after defeating Uruguay in a gutsy, come-from-behind fashion four days ago. After the match, the South Americans tried to square up with their opponents, a small mob chasing the Americans around the pitch. The Americans refused to bite. They separated from the squabbling and went over to clap their supporters. The Uruguayans went back to their dressing room, punching a volunteer along the way.

"I was over shaking the referee's hand and I just saw this big ... thing going on," U.S. star Freddy Adu said of his role in the aborted brawl. "Then I went over and tried to keep my guys away from it."

The tiny midfielder was wide eyed at the idea of it. Fighting? In soccer?! All Adu could do was laugh.

Yesterday, Adu crumpled to the pitch after the loss. He lay there, disconsolate, until Rongen walked by. The Dutch-born American coach pulled his captain up, but didn't stop to console him or make a show of it. Obviously, in Holland there's no crying in soccer.

Adu and his team leave Canada with their reputations burnished. They may not have any silverware to show for their work, but they have won the grudging admiration of their hosts.


source:
http://www.thestar.com/Sports/Soccer/article/236118


Posted by Yohan on Jul-15-2007 17:29:

Argentina vs Mexico 7:30 on CBC

Book it


Posted by Adamo on Jul-15-2007 19:01:

copa america final brazil vs. argentina...think i'm gonna watch that instead.


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