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Posted by apri_peel on Apr-24-2002 07:20:

cant we just all agree on one thing: players, bad boys, bad girls, whatever, go BOTH WAYS. there are nice guys and nice girls, and there are jerks and there are bitches, thats what the whole world is all about.
nice guys get the nice girls
bad guys get the bad girls and also lure into innocent nice girls who either realize who they are with or turn bad
same goes for girls

no one ever is going to be able to solve this arguement because no one ever will trully have the experience of being on both sides
so cant we just all take a


Posted by Gucio on Apr-24-2002 11:22:

quote:
Originally posted by sothis
I've found this:

Being nice girl = having lots of nice friends

Being nice girl = having lots of friends who are guys, who think of you as one of the guys, nothing more

Being nice girl = something that no men say they want, ever.

Being nice girl = attracting guy after guy who can view vulnerability, openness, honesty, and abuse/manipulate you for it, until YOU have been hurt so many times that you dont believe in love anymore.

Being nice girl = life of effort & pain

-yet another response from sothis, trying to prove it goes both ways


Where do you find nice girls???? If I had a NICE GIRL I would probably the happiest person in the world. I am sick of dealing with bitches. The nice girls that have a lot of guy friends most of the time they don't want anything more than FRIENDSHIP.


Posted by drizzt81 on Apr-24-2002 16:54:

quote:
Originally posted by dmcilwaine


people play mind games cus thats just the way we are- animals
its like wanting what you cant have, you want it but when you get it u dont want it.... know what i mean?
people play mind games so the other person doesn't know what they're thinkin (ie "i like you") cus once they figure out that they can have the other person they dont want them anymore, its all bullshit, but thats how we are


gotta disagree i know a couple of people who do not do that.. like my Brother and his GF.. seem to be quite honest with each other..

I do not know, if my GF is playing with me, or what.. it drives me nutz.. maybe I am just simple minded, dumb or naiive, but i have mind games and i try my best not to do anything to that effect.. maybe i am not capable of it either ?!?


Posted by apri_peel on Apr-24-2002 19:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Gucio


Where do you find nice girls???? If I had a NICE GIRL I would probably the happiest person in the world. I am sick of dealing with bitches. The nice girls that have a lot of guy friends most of the time they don't want anything more than FRIENDSHIP.


nice girls are hard to find if all the girls you hang out with are bitches. you really have to look since nice girls are most of the time shy, quite, and not very popular so you dont notice them
you really have to look beyond your friend circle, and beyond girls you would usually go for. look for the quiet ones, that hang out with mostly girls and are kinda on their own.
also, you can work your networks. if you've got friends whom you dont really hang out with, they might have friends who happen to be nice girls

trust me, im speaking from experience. (im one of them what you would call nice girls and thats how i met my bf who was sort of the more popular kids in our high school, those who never associate themselves with ppl like myself and my friends)
there might be other ways of finding nice girls, but the above is also true, in most cases i would say.

good luck to you


Posted by hypronix on Apr-24-2002 21:09:

quote:
Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR
hehe girlfriends, hmm good things!!! fuckin ages since i had one like!


anyway hehe. god help the women who ever tries mind games with me, mwuahhaahhaha!!!


getting a girl can be at times rather easy... not sluts or whores, but decent pretty ladies... U have to work your best, and if U really need one pretend Ur someone else. but those are relationships U know are going to end soon... it's just for 'fun' (god I hate the word when it comes to relationships but I guess dating for fun is a fact we might as well not try to hide)... so the question is whether it's worth to hurt someone or not.

so DuMonde, would U like to be "used" (American Pie 1 style )?

l8z!

hyp


Posted by Damo on Apr-24-2002 23:03:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH


Ok, I never told you to leave, first off. Secondly, you have to understand that the people you're "talking to" are speaking from their own perspective. I'm pretty sure that most of them are fully aware that guys hurt girls as much as girls hurt them. Thirdly, this being a public forum and all, since you didn't specify who you're talking to...your posts can be aimed, read by anyone, and responded to by anyone. I'm sorry for getting involved in "your" conversation. Next time use PM's or private chat...thats what they're there for.


ahahaha, PWN3D.

gotta love logic.


Posted by kr00t0n on Apr-25-2002 01:09:

quote:
Where do you find nice girls???? If I had a NICE GIRL I would probably the happiest person in the world. I am sick of dealing with bitches. The nice girls that have a lot of guy friends most of the time they don't want anything more than FRIENDSHIP.


My problem exactly. Over 3 years, I've met 4 incredible girls, but all they ever want is to be my friend. Then they get together with jerks who hurt them.

*sigh*

It's just not fair.


Posted by Endlesswave on Apr-25-2002 01:15:

Smile ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^heard dat before. lol

Man, I dun understand it. "Let's be friends" so then they can go and be with an asshole who treats them like shit and then they complain to us how they want a nice guy who is standing RIGHT in front of them staring them in the face. Why is love so BLIND?!?!?!?!


Posted by apri_peel on Apr-25-2002 02:28:

when a girl meets a nice guy and they become friends, even if she finds him attractive later on and really really likes him, she most probably wouldnt tell you that b/c she loves the friendship (its not easy to find a nice guy and be friends with him)
so if you find your girl friend attractive, nice and a bag of chips , you have to consider whether she might be into you or not, then you have to come out and let her know, you never know, feelings might be mutual


Posted by drizzt81 on Apr-25-2002 03:05:

quote:
Originally posted by apri_peel
when a girl meets a nice guy and they become friends, even if she finds him attractive later on and really really likes him, she most probably wouldnt tell you that b/c she loves the friendship (its not easy to find a nice guy and be friends with him)


this brings us right back to the 'love or friendship' question on a nother thread... great.. one huuge circle


Posted by elena on Apr-25-2002 05:37:

quote:
Originally posted by apri_peel
when a girl meets a nice guy and they become friends, even if she finds him attractive later on and really really likes him, she most probably wouldnt tell you that b/c she loves the friendship (its not easy to find a nice guy and be friends with him)


i dont think guys and girls could ever be "just" friends


Posted by Endlesswave on Apr-25-2002 06:46:

Ok...

Well I think guys and girls COULD be just friends cuz I have a few yes, but from the moment you look at a girl as something more (or even the possibility of there being anything more than friendship) then it'll mess things up...happened to me a few times. Cuz then you can't look at the person the same way again, being their friend would just hurt too much because you can't be with them in that way. I see what you're saying...


Posted by Damo on Apr-25-2002 07:20:

Drunk

this is how it works for guys:

if they say they like you as just a friend, then that means they think you're fat and ugly and don't want to hurt your feelings by saying so because it's too much of hassle

if you just hang out and you don't classify it as anything, then that means he wants to bop you but is afraid of embarassing himself so he keeps it at a buddy buddy level hoping that it will eventually escalate without any awkwardness.

then there's fuck buddies.


Posted by apri_peel on Apr-25-2002 07:32:

your friend can also be of opposite sex, attractive but just not your type

it IS hard to be friends with someone you're attracted to
my bf and i considering a break and staying just friends during that break but i can already imagine how hard its gonna be just to keep my hands from him

relationships and friendships can be very frustrating, unfortunately, there is not book of rules to live by. some of us find ways to deal with all the issues without major problems, some of us struggle but there is no right and wrong


Posted by kolkiewolkie on Apr-25-2002 11:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Damo
this is how it works for guys:

if they say they like you as just a friend, then that means they think you're fat and ugly and don't want to hurt your feelings by saying so because it's too much of hassle

if you just hang out and you don't classify it as anything, then that means he wants to bop you but is afraid of embarassing himself so he keeps it at a buddy buddy level hoping that it will eventually escalate without any awkwardness.

then there's fuck buddies.



fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccckkkkkkkk

I can tell you people: this is the truth (and I must say, I am shocked to find myself fit in this EXACTLY )

[offtopic]
damo, you really should get rid of gigi in you avator....
[/offtopic]


Posted by Gucio on Apr-25-2002 13:43:

quote:
Originally posted by apri_peel
nice girls are hard to find if all the girls you hang out with are bitches. you really have to look since nice girls are most of the time shy, quite, and not very popular so you dont notice them
you really have to look beyond your friend circle, and beyond girls you would usually go for. look for the quiet ones, that hang out with mostly girls and are kinda on their own.
also, you can work your networks. if you've got friends whom you dont really hang out with, they might have friends who happen to be nice girls

trust me, im speaking from experience. (im one of them what you would call nice girls and thats how i met my bf who was sort of the more popular kids in our high school, those who never associate themselves with ppl like myself and my friends)
there might be other ways of finding nice girls, but the above is also true, in most cases i would say.

good luck to you


See there is a little problem here. I am kind of a shy guy. Well at least at first I am. Once I get to know some somebody, I can just yap on for hours at a time. It is usually pretty hard to strike a conversation with a girl that is shy too. I wasn't really a popular kid in high school. I didn't really hand around with "COOL" crowd. I guess I am just doomed with dealing with bitches all the time. Thanks a lot for you advice


Posted by Gucio on Apr-25-2002 14:01:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
My problem exactly. Over 3 years, I've met 4 incredible girls, but all they ever want is to be my friend. Then they get together with jerks who hurt them.

*sigh*

It's just not fair.


quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave
Man, I dun understand it. "Let's be friends" so then they can go and be with an asshole who treats them like shit and then they complain to us how they want a nice guy who is standing RIGHT in front of them staring them in the face. Why is love so BLIND?!?!?!?


You know what I think the problem is. I know this might sound weird to some, but from what I've seen over the years a lot of women like to be treated like shit. The worst you treat them, the more they are all over you. I'll give you an example. This girl "FRIEND" I know she had a boyfriend that treated her like a queen, anything she would ask, he would do for her. Guess what she breakes up with him for ano appearant reason. Starts going out with the next guy, that totally treats her like shit. Level of shitness is that if I ever found out where he lives, I would propably put him in the wheel chair. . And she has been with him for like 3 years now. She is a really hot chick. I mean she can do way better than that. Now tell me if that isn't just pure stupidity!!


Posted by Damo on Apr-25-2002 16:01:

quote:
Originally posted by kolkiewolkie



fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccckkkkkkkk

I can tell you people: this is the truth (and I must say, I am shocked to find myself fit in this EXACTLY )

[offtopic]
damo, you really should get rid of gigi in you avator....
[/offtopic]


hahah, i just like the way it looks, don't particularly care for gigi musically.


Posted by ali92 on Apr-25-2002 18:33:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RozzeR
My Girlfriend is a nyphomanic and she loves trance , so im the happyiest manin the world :]

You're lucky! Over here in USA, it's HARD to find a nice girl who is addicted to Trance (most girls over here are into Rap, R+B, Pop/Rock/Soul, "Hip-Hop", Asian Pop (they're starting to get into Rap more and more), etc.) I haven't met ONE PERSON (girl or bloke) who's into Trance. This also means that 90%+ of all of my friends are into the above genres........


Posted by Damo on Apr-25-2002 18:57:

quote:
Originally posted by ali92

You're lucky! Over here in USA, it's HARD to find a nice girl who is addicted to Trance (most girls over here are into Rap, R+B, Pop/Rock/Soul, "Hip-Hop", Asian Pop (they're starting to get into Rap more and more), etc.) I haven't met ONE PERSON (girl or bloke) who's into Trance. This also means that 90%+ of all of my friends are into the above genres........
]

same here man, i know a few people who like house and euro but it's just not the same. A nympho trancer, can't top that,fuck.


Posted by u4ea:[soulstar] on Apr-25-2002 19:17:

quote:
Originally posted by jeronemango
Well its my time to vent some anger,, my gf seems to think talking about her robbie williams all the time is a good thing,, talking to me on the phone and playing his shit in the background really doesnt turn me on... and these constant games of trying to get me jealous by saying all these guys like her,, really why the fuck do some women do this?? and then to go on and say this model from hugo boss wants to meet her,, ive just had enough why oh why!!!!! second time in a row i have had these problems.


I haven't read the rest of the thread. It appears your GF has some unresolve issues with her previous Xers. It could be anger or hurt, or both she hasn't gotten over. I know if I was in your situation, I wouldn't take that kind of constant bombardment (LOL) of "stroking the bruised ego cuz I got dumped!" It would bad bad news to play that kind of mind game on me, especially when psychology is my hobby. I would see right through the veils. *LOL

I wouldn't stand it after a while, like Renegade said, you're not her therapist! It grinds you out. So you better be careful you don't end up flipping out on her cuz you just add more fireworks than necessary. You might as well be direct with her, ask her. If she doesn't give you a straight answer.... Well, you're just going have to be patient until you can't no more and cut your losses.


Keep it Real


Posted by drizzt81 on Apr-25-2002 19:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Damo
this is how it works for guys:

if they say they like you as just a friend, then that means they think you're fat and ugly and don't want to hurt your feelings by saying so because it's too much of hassle

if you just hang out and you don't classify it as anything, then that means he wants to bop you but is afraid of embarassing himself so he keeps it at a buddy buddy level hoping that it will eventually escalate without any awkwardness.

then there's fuck buddies.


hmm.. way to describe realtity bro..


Posted by Endlesswave on Apr-25-2002 20:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Gucio




You know what I think the problem is. I know this might sound weird to some, but from what I've seen over the years a lot of women like to be treated like shit. The worst you treat them, the more they are all over you. I'll give you an example. This girl "FRIEND" I know she had a boyfriend that treated her like a queen, anything she would ask, he would do for her. Guess what she breakes up with him for ano appearant reason. Starts going out with the next guy, that totally treats her like shit. Level of shitness is that if I ever found out where he lives, I would propably put him in the wheel chair. . And she has been with him for like 3 years now. She is a really hot chick. I mean she can do way better than that. Now tell me if that isn't just pure stupidity!!


I couldn't agree more, thing is I'd rather have a balance of both, the nice guy part, but also the "edge" that the asshole has in terms of attitude etc. Kind've annoying being a nice guy CONSTANTLY. That's what I'm trying to do but I dun think it'll work, it's just not me to do that...oh well.


Posted by apri_peel on Apr-25-2002 22:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Gucio


See there is a little problem here. I am kind of a shy guy. Well at least at first I am. Once I get to know some somebody, I can just yap on for hours at a time. It is usually pretty hard to strike a conversation with a girl that is shy too. I wasn't really a popular kid in high school. I didn't really hand around with "COOL" crowd. I guess I am just doomed with dealing with bitches all the time. Thanks a lot for you advice


sorry, you're right, my advice was aimed a bit at more outgoing ppl

i dont know what a shy person can do. i am very shy myself and i usually dont approach ppl i dont know unles i really have to. even the ppl that i know but never really associate with.
all my life i tried to look for ways to overcome my shyness but was never succesful. so if anyone out there has a remedy, please share.


Posted by drizzt81 on Apr-25-2002 23:04:

quote:
Originally posted by apri_peel
i dont know what a shy person can do. i am very shy myself and i usually dont approach ppl i dont know unles i really have to. even the ppl that i know but never really associate with.
all my life i tried to look for ways to overcome my shyness but was never succesful. so if anyone out there has a remedy, please share.


if you ever find one, let the rest of us know, ok?


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