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Danny who? This guy needs to get a grip, and I second that motion of a waaamulance

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So why doesnt he like people recording his sets?

Because the music he plays is uber underground. It's so underground in nature that no one has ever heard of the producers because they all live in exotic countries. You cant even find these on slsk!

And enough of that 'Ey, look ah meh, Ima Italian' shit, it's really annoying and I had enough of it around World Cup time.

What a cocky bastard.

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Originally posted by blacknoizybox his dancing skills were recorded too omg!!! law suit incoming!!

After watching that three times I feel better knowing that I can be a professional DJ.

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Originally posted by CrowdFound Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but for all those who are saying Danny is arrogant and unprofessional for writing such emails - if he had been calm and professional, this issue wouldnt be getting nearly the exposure it is. by using such langauge and carrying on like he did, he guaranteed that it would become a massive issue on forums such as this. if he had simply written an email to all his producer / dj buddies saying "I am very upset that someone recorded my set, this is who they are, I advise you not to deal with them" then we wouldnt be talking about it right now. i take my hat off to him for attracting attention to an issue he is obviously passionate about

Obviously the only possible solutions to this problem were:

A. Write a long, arrogant, childish diatribe on the internet.

B. Write an email.

...right?

I'm not so sure you know this, but FFS, there's a reason people have contracts in the first place - so that they can pursue reasonable and legal meanas of pursuing justice rather than simply whining like a pussy and having the majority of the industry laugh at you.

Do you really think any of the attention Tenaglia has gotten is the type he really wanted?

Most of you laughing at him must be n00bs then. Knowing DT's personality, as a fan, is no different than knowing that Tiesto or Armin will do the Christ-pose while spinning, or that Infected Mushroom will do the hand-chop thing. I can dig up dozens of emails and posts and bulletins like this, and worse than this, that he's released, it's quintessential Danny. That video posted up with him waving the flags, he released a bulletin about that too.

Anyone who knows ANYTHING about DT knows that he's not a DJ to be taken advantage of. Anyone who's a true house fan sees the release of a DT set as the end of the world, because it's such a rare occurence. So, if a club goes behind his back with a hi-fi recording, if he doesn't react this way, other clubs won't take him seriously about that issue, which he's been consisten about for years.

If you think he's a diva, you haven't seem some of the other older house DJs in New York, but that's another issue. To a diva, any sort of attention is good attention. Most of you probably don't even know that most of the legendary house DJs in New York have been gay, so this divalicious response should come as no surprise. You take it with a grain of salt; if you see DT in the right venue with the right crowd, it could be one of the best nights of your life, guaranteed.

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Originally posted by DJ Eco Danny Tenaglia is God. If his sets leak, it's the apocalypse. Gay people can't act like grown-ups.

None of what you posted justifies acting like a child, nor does it convince me that acting in such fashion will effectively stop this from happening again (in fact I'm personally dying for an opportunity to record a Tenaglia set and get him riled up so easily).

Hell you even say yourself...

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Originally posted by DJ Eco if he doesn't react this way, other clubs won't take him seriously about that issue, which he's been consisten about for years.

Wouldn't being consistently "fucked over" by clubs indicate that the way he's acting is simply not accomplishing his intended goal? Also...

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Originally posted by DJ Eco Most of you probably don't even know that most of the legendary house DJs in New York have been gay, so this divalicious response should come as no surprise.

1. We all already knew that.

2. Way to force an entire group of people into a stereotype. Very open-minded of you.

Have you ever been to a Junior Vasquez or Jonathan Peters or REAL Danny Tenaglia party? I'm straight, but some of the Junior parties that I've been to have been the most legendary parties I've ever been there, despite the fact that he turned off the music for 15 minutes and got on the mic saying "There's too many fish in the sea" (too many girls in the room)... Uh, that my friend is acting like a diva, and you know what, it makes a night with that particular DJ something special, because you never know what that DJ is gunna pull out in his bag of circus tricks (Danny waving the flags, or Junior playing a random disco song in the middle of a set)... I think it must be a New York thing, because elsewhere people laugh when Danny does something wacky, but here, we understand that as part of his act and love him more for it.

A Sven Vath set in England is a fraction of the amount of "special" that a set in his hometown would be. That's what my point is. And I say "consistently" not because he gets fucked over and over and over again... You don't see DT sets all over the internet on a monthly basis... That's exactly my point, he's achieved his objective... Last time I saw a DT set was leaked was a good year and a half ago, and people later found out it was mislabeled, it was the opening DJ before him (that's why it sucked)....

And as far as knowing most NYC legendary house DJs are gay, I honestly don't think most of the people on this board know that.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous

Yeah that's exactly what I said... Apparently, straight people can't act like grownups either.

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Originally posted by DJ Eco And as far as knowing most NYC legendary house DJs are gay, I honestly don't think most of the people on this board know that.

What does that have to do with anything?

Well, when you got guys on TA saying they didn't like a DT party because it was packed with shirtless gay guys, and complaining about him getting on the mic, and then saying they left after an hour, they obviously don't know the whole 90's diva-house scene in New York and what DJs in that era act like. Does that mean all gay people act like divas?.... NO!! Does that mean that these DJs are from a scene and a time where it was in style to act like a diva, or show attitude?.... Yes. Anyone who knows anything about Danny knows that, from the beginning, he has been anti-recording of his sets. He rose up in a different time than is now, where downloading sets didn't make someone an EDM-lover. He rose up in a time where, if you wanted to hear him, you'd show up at his beloved Vinyl club at 5 in the morning and dance the morning away.

Did you even try to answer my question or do you just like to make long pointless rants?

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Did you even try to answer my question or do you just like to make long pointless rants?

Definitely the latter. The poor fellow has struggled with a point since the onset, with no end in sight.

And I really don't want to sound all-knowing and self-righteous but I have no doubt in my mind that someone brought up in a New York house scene has a very different take on the scene (whether it's the style of dance, or musical preferences) than someone brought up in the Miami-style house scene, or French house scene, or whatever. Just like I don't know what it felt like to go to Tresor in Berlin, someone from Berlin doesn't understand what it's like to end up at a gay-heavy afterhours in New York at 8 in the morning. It's a matter of perspective, it's a totally different scene, even though it's all rooted in EDM.

Yep, that settles that then.

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Originally posted by DJ Eco And I really don't want to sound all-knowing and self-righteous but I have no doubt in my mind that someone brought up in a New York house scene has a very different take on the scene (whether it's the style of dance, or musical preferences) than someone brought up in the Miami-style house scene, or French house scene, or whatever. Just like I don't know what it felt like to go to Tresor in Berlin, someone from Berlin doesn't understand what it's like to end up at a gay-heavy afterhours in New York at 8 in the morning. It's a matter of perspective, it's a totally different scene, even though it's all rooted in EDM.

Assholes are assholes regardless of what "scene" they're involved in.

You can dress them up however you'd like, but they'll still always reek of shit.

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Originally posted by DJ Eco The only people who are able to understand Danny Tenaglia's greatness are those who are basing their judgment on past decades & nostalgia, rather than objective evaluations. Also, cocks.

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Originally posted by DJ Eco And I really don't want to sound all-knowing and self-righteous but I have no doubt in my mind that someone brought up in a New York house scene has a very different take on the scene (whether it's the style of dance, or musical preferences) than someone brought up in the Miami-style house scene, or French house scene, or whatever. Just like I don't know what it felt like to go to Tresor in Berlin, someone from Berlin doesn't understand what it's like to end up at a gay-heavy afterhours in New York at 8 in the morning. It's a matter of perspective, it's a totally different scene, even though it's all rooted in EDM.

What does any of this have do with his reaction to his sets being recorded?

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Originally posted by inconspicuous The only people who are able to understand Danny Tenaglia's greatness are those who are basing their judgment on past decades & nostalgia, rather than objective evaluations. Also, cocks.

Listen to yourself.... Anyone who says "techno music sucks!!!" is using objective evaluations and you (or whoever), defending it, are the subjective one. This is as dumb as an argument between an Aussie and a guy from Texas as to which is better, so I'm pretty much done with the inquisition.

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Originally posted by DJ Eco so I'm pretty much done with the inquisition.

So you can't answer one simple question then?

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Originally posted by RJT Assholes are assholes regardless of what "scene" they're involved in. You can dress them up however you'd like, but they'll still always reek of shit.

Yes, and also no (to your first sentence). Someone sees some of DT's actions and understands it as part of his "act" for the past two decades. Someone else sees it as a dick move. Is that a good enough explanation for you, Mr.Mystery and G-Con?

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery So you can't answer one simple question then?

Yes... <---- There... I answered one.

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Originally posted by DJ Eco Yes, and also no (to your first sentence). Someone sees some of DT's actions and understands it as part of his "act" for the past two decades. Someone else sees it as a dick move. Is that a good enough explanation for you, Mr.Mystery and G-Con?

No, not at all. I still can't see what mr. Tenaglia acting like a 5 year old who didn't get his favourite plastic shovel at the sandbox has to do with gay DJ's of NY.

Well, then another 5 pages won't get you to understand it.





On another note, look at some of your own favorite DJs. I'd bet you'll feel more disturbed and annoyed if you saw some of their contracts and contract-riders/demands-lists. I think demanding 1500$ of liquor, and ONLY Blue M&M's is more offensive to the EDM scene than a DJ who has consistently asked for his sets not to be recorded. A friend of mine works in a club so I see all the contracts, and there's some shit that'll totally make you wanna throw in the towel, as far as going to clubs is concerned.

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Originally posted by DJ Eco Well, then another 5 pages won't get you to understand it.

Not with your logic, no.

Okay... Let's take a step back and I'll explain it in terms you may understand (you won't have to draw conclusions by yourself, is what I'm saying)....

Imagine a punk rock band (let's say the Sex Pistols) in the 1980s: mohawks, tattoos, piercings all over, foul mouths, etc. Let's say MTV is doing a big exclusive interview on them, and all throughout, they're just acting like wankers, cursing, saying stupid drug-induced shit. During their tour, they fuck up the hotel room, and cause all sorts of shit in the cities they're in. They get on the mic and curse the government and God and make fun of people in the crowd.... But they have fans all over the globe who love them because of this. They love the attitude, they love their degenerate actions, they love them because they're assholes. It's become part of them just as much as their music has, and those fans understand and APPRECIATE that as part of their "stage presence", whereas their parents can't understand why their children are listening to these monsters, these assholes, these degenerates.

Similarly, there's a class of DJs who didn't act like the wankers that a 1980s punk band did, but acted like divas. There's many of them, and my point from the beginning is that many of them, in the history of house, came from New York. Detroit gave birth to techno, while New York gave birth to diva-house, and "kunty-house". This class of DJs, their egos rose, and their actions and words got more and more brash, but their fans (in New York, at least, and at the time, it was only a gay scene, for the most part) loved them all the more for it. I, for one, love when DT gets on the mic and says something stupid, that's me. Does that make me ignorant? Does that make me some single-sighted DT-lover? Not at all.... Friday night, DT is playing together with Lee Burridge here in New York. I will probably like Lee Burridge's set more, and the day after, I will probably go to this after-afterhours party with Alex Under, and probably like his set even more.... But, I'm just explaining myself from a different point of view that someone on a computer in Denmark has, no offense, but it's from a totally different viewpoint, that's just the truth.

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Originally posted by DJ Eco But, I'm just explaining myself from a different point of view that someone on a computer in Denmark has, no offense, but it's from a totally different viewpoint, that's just the truth.

I think this just about sums it up. Good for the people in Denmark, though.

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