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Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Oct-18-2007 03:14:
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Originally posted by LiquidNitrogen
Adding to this topic, the astrologist can correctly predict the future or determine one's behavior from the science of those 12 or 13 planets and the maths based right off your date of birth, time and location of birth. Does our existence some how related to the planetary position etc? |
what a load of shit
Posted by LiquidNitrogen on Oct-18-2007 04:27:
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Originally posted by Omega_M
I think you are way off as far as the specifics are concerned. The nine planets (nav graha) of Hindu astrology are not the actual 9 planets as we know them today. They comprise of 5 observable planets: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, the Sun, the Moon and the two lunar nodes (Rahu and Ketu). Then there are the 12 "houses" which is a rather abstract concept and then there are the 12 zodiac signs. |
Thanks for the correction, but I hope you got my point.
Posted by LiquidNitrogen on Oct-18-2007 04:28:
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Originally posted by Fledz
Hold on a minute. You actively reject any notion of any sort of higher power, yet you believe in Astrology?
LMFAO! |
I wrote that I don't believe in god and religion, as it's man made. The astrology has nothing to do with them. All I am referring to is the science based off which one could quite accurately predict your behavior.
Posted by LiquidNitrogen on Oct-18-2007 04:31:
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
what a load of shit |
Sad that you have never been to a good astrologist. I happen to know some one who could quite accurately told me my travel dates and things that only I had known. I personally would not go to such person again as they take away the juice of life by telling you your future in advance.
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Oct-18-2007 04:52:
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Originally posted by LiquidNitrogen
Sad that you have never been to a good astrologist. I happen to know some one who could quite accurately told me my travel dates and things that only I had known. I personally would not go to such person again as they take away the juice of life by telling you your future in advance. |
its sad that people like you fool themselves into believing just about any load of crap, without even questioning it.
there has never been (nor ever will be) a plausible explanation for how the planets are meant to effect us at all, let alone an explanation for why the planets only effect you when you're born (perhaps the uterus is graced with special powers?).
honestly, get a brain and grow up.
Posted by Fledz on Oct-18-2007 04:52:
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Originally posted by LiquidNitrogen
I wrote that I don't believe in god and religion, as it's man made. The astrology has nothing to do with them. All I am referring to is the science based off which one could quite accurately predict your behavior. |
Wait, so you're saying religion and God is man made but astrology is not?
This just gets better and better!
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Oct-18-2007 04:53:
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Originally posted by LiquidNitrogen
I wrote that I don't believe in god and religion, as it's man made. The astrology has nothing to do with them. All I am referring to is the science based off which one could quite accurately predict your behavior. |
what science? there is no science. you're just deluded.
Posted by SuspicionVandit on Oct-18-2007 04:53:
freecreditreport.com > astrology
Posted by echosystm on Oct-18-2007 07:11:
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Originally posted by LiquidNitrogen
Sad that you have never been to a good astrologist. I happen to know some one who could quite accurately told me my travel dates and things that only I had known. I personally would not go to such person again as they take away the juice of life by telling you your future in advance. |
I'm an astrologist. Heres your astrology:
You have a need for other people to like and admire you, and yet you tend to be critical of yourself. While you have some personality weaknesses you are generally able to compensate for them. You have considerable unused capacity that you have not turned to your advantage. Disciplined and self-controlled on the outside, you tend to be worrisome and insecure on the inside. At times you have serious doubts as to whether you have made the right decision or done the right thing. You prefer a certain amount of change and variety and become dissatisfied when hemmed in by restrictions and limitations. You also pride yourself as an independent thinker; and do not accept others' statements without satisfactory proof. But you have found it unwise to be too frank in revealing yourself to others. At times you are extroverted, affable, and sociable, while at other times you are introverted, wary, and reserved. Some of your aspirations tend to be rather unrealistic.
It's called the Barnum (Forer) effect you simple minded little sheep. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forer_effect
The Barnum (Forer) effect is the basis of cold reading.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_reading
Have fun learning that you've been fooled.
Posted by Lilith on Oct-18-2007 07:15:
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
what science? there is no science. you're just deluded. |
Aww, there goes that gig looking exotic in a veil using my hippy name telling people that they're going to be scammed financially in the near future and ultimately going to die... possibly also sooner or later.
Posted by echosystm on Oct-18-2007 07:28:
the planets are speaking to me... i sense that LiquidNitrogen has realised he just got pwned. he will reply arrogantly with some nonsensical, elitist, bullsh*t like "you just dont understand... i wont waste my time".
amirite? 
Posted by Sushipunk on Oct-18-2007 07:50:
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Originally posted by echosystm
You have a need for other people to like and admire you, and yet you tend to be critical of yourself. While you have some personality weaknesses you are generally able to compensate for them. You have considerable unused capacity that you have not turned to your advantage. Disciplined and self-controlled on the outside, you tend to be worrisome and insecure on the inside. At times you have serious doubts as to whether you have made the right decision or done the right thing. You prefer a certain amount of change and variety and become dissatisfied when hemmed in by restrictions and limitations. You also pride yourself as an independent thinker; and do not accept others' statements without satisfactory proof. But you have found it unwise to be too frank in revealing yourself to others. At times you are extroverted, affable, and sociable, while at other times you are introverted, wary, and reserved. Some of your aspirations tend to be rather unrealistic. |
Fucking golden.
A big
to you.
God damn, that's the kind of bullshit my mum goes on about. She loves 'Numerology' but hates science, as it's based strongly on mathematics, which I'M SORRY, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH REAL LIFE. WHERE'S THE FEELING???
Posted by LiquidNitrogen on Oct-18-2007 08:22:
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Originally posted by echosystm
the planets are speaking to me... i sense that LiquidNitrogen has realised he just got pwned. he will reply arrogantly with some nonsensical, elitist, bullsh*t like "you just dont understand... i wont waste my time".
amirite? |
I am not talking about the lame horoscopes you read in news paper or street palmist or cup readers. I can not make you believe in this science unless of course you yourself go through this when you come across one of these people who could tell you what you'd go through in the time to come.
In my family we had totally lost hope of my aunt living through cancer and Bhrigu Samhita correctly predicted that she would die of cancer even before she was admitted to the hospital. It even correctly predicted my uncle killing himself after his wife would die of cancer (he was so deeply mad in love with his wife).
There are something you just can't believe unless you go through.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhrigu_Samhita
Posted by Sushipunk on Oct-18-2007 08:40:
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Originally posted by LiquidNitrogen
I can not make you believe in THIS SCIENCE |
Followed up by...
A Wiki link.
Any time you feel ready, please feel free to let us know exactly how Bhrigu Samhita could be considered A SCIENCE.
I'm not trying to offend you, by any means, but I hope that you understand that science is based on empirical proof, as opposed to 'qualitative' information, that can't be measured accurately.
Posted by LiquidNitrogen on Oct-18-2007 09:04:
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Originally posted by Sushipunk
Followed up by...
A Wiki link.
Any time you feel ready, please feel free to let us know exactly how Bhrigu Samhita could be considered A SCIENCE.
I'm not trying to offend you, by any means, but I hope that you understand that science is based on empirical proof, as opposed to 'qualitative' information, that can't be measured accurately. |
The wiki does not accurately detail how this is worked out. Bhrigu Samitha requires you to tell your date of birth, location and time. Once determined they calculate and read it from the manuscript. In case if your bhrigu horoscope is not found they fallback to the jyotish (Astrology) which is a mathematical calculation based off planetary position when you were born
Posted by Sushipunk on Oct-18-2007 09:21:
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Originally posted by LiquidNitrogen
The wiki does not accurately detail how this is worked out. Bhrigu Samitha requires you to tell your date of birth, location and time. Once determined they calculate and read it from the manuscript. In case if your bhrigu horoscope is not found they fallback to the jyotish (Astrology) which is a mathematical calculation based off planetary position when you were born |
I get how it works. Believe me, I grew up with this kind of thing. You and my mum would have amazing conversations.
What I'm asking you, is how you can consider this belief system to be in any way scientific, because you appear to have qualified it as such, in your previous posts?
I have no problem with your beliefs, but when people start telling me that it's a SCIENCE (again, empirical evidence/statistical analysis would be required for this kind of bold statement to hold any weight), it just doesn't work for me.
It seems like pure faith, and no more realistic (IMO) than an omni-present being watching over us, after creating us all on a whim.
Posted by echosystm on Oct-18-2007 09:22:
Jesus christ mang. Ok so you do all these mathematical equations, which give you a bunch of numbers. These numbers then refer to a bunch of unempirical bs some indian made up. THATS NOT SCIENCE.
Just because it has maths in it doesn't mean it is science. 

Posted by 3F05Q on Oct-18-2007 09:23:
Fair enough nitro,
How much does it cost? Got a number to call?
Is he in Utah? Google Maps says Utah.
Posted by echosystm on Oct-18-2007 09:36:
Now, I am actually intrigued as to what this hippie crap told you... Obviously it didnt say "oh, hi. your aunty is going to die of cancer before she gets admitted to hospital, and then your uncle will kill himself". So what DID it say? My bet is Barnum takes the prize here.
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Originally posted by Sushipunk
You and my mum would have amazing conversations. |
I have to put up with a mum AND a sister. Feel my pain.
Posted by Sushipunk on Oct-18-2007 09:40:
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Originally posted by echosystm
I have to put up with a mum AND a sister. Feel my pain. |
I hear you. 
I'd feel you too, but that would be very inappropriate.
Posted by LiquidNitrogen on Oct-18-2007 09:48:
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Originally posted by Sushipunk
I get how it works. Believe me, I grew up with this kind of thing. You and my mum would have amazing conversations.
What I'm asking you, is how you can consider this belief system to be in any way scientific, because you appear to have qualified it as such, in your previous posts?
I have no problem with your beliefs, but when people start telling me that it's a SCIENCE (again, empirical evidence/statistical analysis would be required for this kind of bold statement to hold any weight), it just doesn't work for me.
It seems like pure faith, and no more realistic (IMO) than an omni-present being watching over us, after creating us all on a whim. |
I am not an astrologer and sadly the bhrigu manuscript that contained millions of horoscopes were destroyed by a freakin ruler ages back. What ever is left is subdivided between 2 brothers who live in different parts of India. Since we don't have the knowledge to re-create such a manuscript it can not be proved scientifically.
Statistically if you can find a matching horoscope at bhrigu you'd be amazed how accurate the prediction is. Why I say it's a science is because it was based off the planetary position, surely a science that was well advance than our science.
I am trying to re-iterate the fact that there seems to be some kind of knowledge existent ages back with not just hindus but also egyptians and prolly mayans, that could tell human behavior and could quite correctly predict future from the planetary position when you were born.
You'd find many articles on the web that can tell you how good bhrigu samitha is (not just from Indians but also foreigners) who had a chance to give it a shot.
http://www.wandahl.com/Pages/Articl...riguSamhita.htm
Posted by LiquidNitrogen on Oct-18-2007 09:52:
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Originally posted by 3F05Q
Fair enough nitro,
How much does it cost? Got a number to call?
Is he in Utah? Google Maps says Utah. |
Read my previous post. It's only in India.
Posted by LiquidNitrogen on Oct-18-2007 09:54:
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Originally posted by echosystm
Jesus christ mang. Ok so you do all these mathematical equations, which give you a bunch of numbers. These numbers then refer to a bunch of unempirical bs some indian made up. THATS NOT SCIENCE.
Just because it has maths in it doesn't mean it is science.  |
Astrology involve position of planets in terms of degrees, based on your longitude and latitude position at the time of birth, they can tell which planet has higher and lower affect on your body. These planetary position is then used to determine the behavior and can even predict your future. Believe it or not is all upto you
Posted by 3F05Q on Oct-18-2007 09:57:
I just read an article where a guy went to Bhrigu Samhita. He wanted (the equivalent to) $3600 US to undo a curse from a former life.
Edit: oh, just realized it's the one you posted.
By the way, Bhrigu Samhita is an anagram for 'Him bash guitar' and 'Ha, Big hair smut'
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Oct-18-2007 10:00:
what a load of nonsense. yeah, the planets dictate our lives! hahahahaha.
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