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Originally posted by steven-neil AVB number 1,,,fucking Jesus talentless piece of shit....

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Originally posted by steven-neil The dude is a fucking noob....If Sasha and Digweed didnt put Blue Fear on Northern Exposure he would still be playing at school disco's...

Man, Blue Fear is one of my favorite tracks of all time. And yes, it did launch AVB's career. But with that... AVB really is a great dj technically, he's highly marketable, he has great stage presence, great production work, extremely popular radio show's, and he is one of the few trance dj's who actually play tracks that are diverse (ie, drops house and progressive house in his sets). And he's an extremely nice person (modest, appreciative, and down to earth).






With that said, the top 100 is a joke, I could write 2 pages why this is the case. In short, it's based on politics, money, pr, marketing, connections...

dj'ing is an art, not a sport, you can't rate dj's when there is no way for them to actually compete against one another.

And while I don't think he's "the best dj", Tiesto gets paid the most money and he is the one dj that can truly sell out shows anywhere in the world (by the thousands on any night of the week). Under those qualifications, Tiesto is #1.



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^^^ But if trance/Armin hit the wall then why where you still going out of your way to see Armin IN 03,04, and 05, so your contradicting yourself saying trance hit the wall. Sad thing is think too many DJ's where playing the same records making overplayed never bearable to even listen again. Never liked Markus starting in 04 - Now


Good to see Armin Armin move up to the number 1 spot


David Guetta #10

The S-Man #25

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Originally posted by AddictedTo1982 ^^^ But if trance/Armin hit the wall then why where you still going out of your way to see Armin IN 03,04, and 05, so your contradicting yourself saying trance hit the wall. Sad thing is think too many DJ's where playing the same records making overplayed never bearable to even listen again. Never liked Markus starting in 04 - Now Good to see Armin Armin move up to the number 1 spot David Guetta #10 The S-Man #25

I stopped going to see Armin in early 2004 (@ the roxy)...I'd seen him perform many times prior to that and the fact that his track selection had very little variation from set to set led me to the conclusion that the guy had very limited talent and very little imagination...His sound is still the same as it ever was and his tracklisting is so predictable...

http://www.djmag.com/index.php?op=top100dj&top100dj_op=results&year=2007

lol nice, "cheesehead reporting", i love it

whats with all the hate for big name djs by the way, its pretty pathetic. probably because a lot of you here are djs yourselves and it might irk you that they are so successful. maybe the top djs aren't the most technical, but they appeal to the most amount of people. maybe that means that being a top dj is more than just skill, and that a lot of people need to get over themselves and acknowledge that whatever it is that makes a good dj, they got it.

i saw tiesto at hammerstein and it was one of the best shows i've ever been to. there is a reason he's one of the best. pz

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Originally posted by steven-neil I stopped going to see Armin in early 2004 (@ the roxy)...I'd seen him perform many times prior to that and the fact that his track selection had very little variation from set to set led me to the conclusion that the guy had very limited talent and very little imagination...His sound is still the same as it ever was and his tracklisting is so predictable...

hey man your heyday is over, don't get mad cause the young blood is coming in and running shit.

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Originally posted by blenderx lol nice, "cheesehead reporting", i love it whats with all the hate for big name djs by the way, its pretty pathetic. probably because a lot of you here are djs yourselves and it might irk you that they are so successful. maybe the top djs aren't the most technical, but they appeal to the most amount of people. maybe that means that being a top dj is more than just skill, and that a lot of people need to get over themselves and acknowledge that whatever it is that makes a good dj, they got it. i saw tiesto at hammerstein and it was one of the best shows i've ever been to. there is a reason he's one of the best. pz

now why would it make sense for a dj to bash another dj....doesn't do anything for the reputation now does it? and it's not out of hate.....it's out of personal taste and views.......carry on

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Originally posted by blenderx lol nice, "cheesehead reporting", i love it whats with all the hate for big name djs by the way, its pretty pathetic. probably because a lot of you here are djs yourselves and it might irk you that they are so successful. maybe the top djs aren't the most technical, but they appeal to the most amount of people. maybe that means that being a top dj is more than just skill, and that a lot of people need to get over themselves and acknowledge that whatever it is that makes a good dj, they got it. i saw tiesto at hammerstein and it was one of the best shows i've ever been to. there is a reason he's one of the best. pz

Bloody locals, i mean, here in Melbs they don't do that, but in canada; come on dikz.

Have you seen PVD lately. 2 laptos and 2/3keyboards. Pshhhhhhhhh

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Originally posted by vtec junkie now why would it make sense for a dj to bash another dj....doesn't do anything for the reputation now does it? and it's not out of hate.....it's out of personal taste and views.......carry on

maybe YOU don't hate him, but tiesto gets plenty of hate.

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Originally posted by blenderx hey man your heyday is over, don't get mad cause the young blood is coming in and running shit.

Listen bro,,,before your Mum tells you to go to bed don't forget to use the bathroom...

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Originally posted by steven-neil Listen bro,,,before your Mum tells you to go to bed don't forget to use the bathroom...

hey pops why dont u can it and drink some prune juice looool

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Originally posted by blenderx hey pops why dont u can it and drink some prune juice looool

I'll send youre mum down the seven eleven for some as soon as I get off her...

should i make a thread on all the djs on the top 100 who i have never heard of, or would that be to embarresing as the official NYC/MIami correspondent for tramce.nu

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Originally posted by chimera66 nothing to laugh at there; Markus is GREAT

...at making one sleep.

Seriously, even when I was into trance, I thought he was one of the worst of the big names. He just isn't exciting. He has little to no stage presence (as do lots of DJs that I like, not that it's my concern, but seems to be with a lot of people in the EDM scene, as seen by the laptop DJ arguments), plus plays fairly boring music compared to the likes of Armin or PvD. I saw him a few times back in 2004-2005 and he never once impressed me. Maybe he's gotten better, but I doubt it considering he was already popular then and why change if it's working for you?

As for the argument with dcctnyprincess, yes, she's opinionated and techno leaning. We argue all the time about music off-board. For instance, she knows we love Sasha, yet can't get it. I think the main thing that she was trying to convey with the Richie-Markus thing is that Richie IS a better DJ. When you look at the technical skill involved with each of them, Richie is constantly working, while Markus can sit back and sign autographs for fans in the booth. That's making the production work for you, rather than you working the productions (Richie usually uses multiple tracks at once, all layered).

nice to see armin FINALLY took it!!! ut pvd dropping 3 spots is just too many!

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy ...at making one sleep. Seriously, even when I was into trance, I thought he was one of the worst of the big names. He just isn't exciting. He has little to no stage presence (as do lots of DJs that I like, not that it's my concern, but seems to be with a lot of people in the EDM scene, as seen by the laptop DJ arguments), plus plays fairly boring music compared to the likes of Armin or PvD. I saw him a few times back in 2004-2005 and he never once impressed me. Maybe he's gotten better, but I doubt it considering he was already popular then and why change if it's working for you? As for the argument with dcctnyprincess, yes, she's opinionated and techno leaning. We argue all the time about music off-board. For instance, she knows we love Sasha, yet can't get it. I think the main thing that she was trying to convey with the Richie-Markus thing is that Richie IS a better DJ. When you look at the technical skill involved with each of them, Richie is constantly working, while Markus can sit back and sign autographs for fans in the booth. That's making the production work for you, rather than you working the productions (Richie usually uses multiple tracks at once, all layered).

Markus has been hit or miss. His last gig at Spirit before it closed was awesome.....he brought it hard that night but I will admit....his set @ Pacha after SVD sucked ass.

^^^he was damn good in September and great in Montreal earlier this year. For me he's great and that's my personal opinion and with that let it be.

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Originally posted by GUBostonDubs These arguments are always pointless because you cant really use facts to prove that one style of music or track is better or worse than other music. Therefore you can't prove that Mozart is better than Milli Vanilli That cliche "It's all a matter of taste" can't be crushed.

....not only that, but how we evaluate a DJ is different. While one person evaluates based on technical skills including looping, layering, etc..., i evaluate a DJ on track selection and the absence of obvious errors.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 ....not only that, but how we evaluate a DJ is different. While one person evaluates based on technical skills including looping, layering, etc..., i evaluate a DJ on track selection and the absence of obvious errors.

seriously.....what ever happened to track selection and programming.....I guess if you're not dropping 15 different tracks at once while remixing on the fly....you're not considered a "technical DJ" lol

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Originally posted by vtec junkie seriously.....what ever happened to track selection and programming.....I guess if you're not dropping 15 different tracks at once while remixing on the fly....you're not considered a "technical DJ" lol

It's dying as every DJ can get the same tracks via the internet. When everyone's got the same stuff, only technical ability and showmanship separates a pro from some amateur creating a set to be played at a house party.

It's kind of sad.

Brain/Ryan: I have to agree with you a little on markus. I was never a big fan of him until I saw him this year at montreal and ------> holy mind fuk. It was soooo weird and surprising to hear him drop so hard and techy trance...it was insane. That was the beginning and since I have seen him a couple times out of the city and have been truly impressed with both his progress in sets and his crowd interaction. def one of my most improved DJ's for the year.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy ...at making one sleep. Seriously, even when I was into trance, I thought he was one of the worst of the big names. He just isn't exciting. He has little to no stage presence (as do lots of DJs that I like, not that it's my concern, but seems to be with a lot of people in the EDM scene, as seen by the laptop DJ arguments), plus plays fairly boring music compared to the likes of Armin or PvD. I saw him a few times back in 2004-2005 and he never once impressed me. Maybe he's gotten better, but I doubt it considering he was already popular then and why change if it's working for you?

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To the person arguing that Markus is better than Hawtin......really? Have you actually taken time to sit down and listen to DE9 or any of Hawtin's stuff? Regardless of style of music, Hawtin fucking blows Markus out of the water when it comes to the technicality of a set and track selection. Anyone mixing 6 different aspects of a track at one time is brilliant. Please find me set by Markus that shows him putting in more skill than any set done my Hawtin.

I would say that if your judging DJ's based on technicality and DJ skill alone this poll is totally fucked. The reason it's fucked is because you have about 60% of people voting who are only really familiar with the Top 10 DJ's on that list. Right now, Tiesto, AVB, PVD, Corsten, etc are all ranked high and will continue to be ranked high because they are most accessible to the masses. But just because you are the most accessible doesn't mean that you are the best.

I'd say this poll evaluates who the "best" is more than any competition of technical skill could. If being the best means you have the best qualities a dj should have, and hardly anyone knows who you are and/or doesn't like your stuff, how is that being the best?

Why don't you and all the other naysayers just come to terms with this? Technical skill doesn't make a dj.

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Originally posted by KeSs I would say that if your judging DJ's based on technicality and DJ skill alone this poll is totally fucked. The reason it's fucked is because you have about 60% of people voting who are only really familiar with the Top 10 DJ's on that list. Right now, Tiesto, AVB, PVD, Corsten, etc are all ranked high and will continue to be ranked high because they are most accessible to the masses. But just because you are the most accessible doesn't mean that you are the best.

That's kind of funny because I've probably seen at least 60 of the top 150 live and heard sets from probably 25-40 more, and i didn't vote this year because I could care less. Add to that the DJs that I've seen that aren't on the list, a few of which are rather striking (Jimmy van M, Jonathan Lisle, Christian Smith, and on and on if I wanted to think about it).

You'll tend to find that those best at things, like politics, are the ones who don't do as well. It's because they're working with insufficient or inaccurate knowledge.

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