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Posted by zoogla on Oct-31-2007 15:46:

quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
I never wrote any of that, I don't believe that at all. hah crazy.

I never wrote any of that either. My only generalization was that women would find "mommy bed makers" to be unappealing or less of a man. hah

Jeff proved me wrong..

I can see where she got that from your generalization, though, or from the fact that you're shocked people still live at home.

If you don't provide more detail about your intentions, people will always read things in a way you never intended!


Posted by sa2go on Oct-31-2007 15:58:

I've noticed as well that more and more of us are living at home after high school/college. Partly I believe because of the high cost of living we noe face these days.

If you can avoid your parents walking in on you when your having sex, and get cooked meals, and avoid having a bedtime (lol) then it may make perfect sense to continue living at home until your more financially secure.

I was lucky because being an athlete I was able to live on my sponsors bill, and I was self-employed and was able to sustain my-self well. Although if I did end up going to college or whatever it really would have been tough to make ends meet and I would either be forced to live on beans and spagetti or move back in with my folks.

to each his own..


Posted by exstasie on Oct-31-2007 16:03:

quote:
Originally posted by sa2go
to each his own..


Exactly


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-31-2007 16:04:

I find it interesting that so many adult children are willing to leech off their parents for so long, yet when their parents age or get sick, they aren't willing to take them on and care for them.


Posted by jon jon on Oct-31-2007 16:05:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
adult children


lol!


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-31-2007 16:12:

quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
lol!



Ehehehehehehe.


Posted by smuncky on Oct-31-2007 16:13:

quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
I understand it's a matter of personal preference (and well... convenience) but some (lol, obviously me) would argue that there is more to life than just saving money and not having to cook for yourself lol...

(ie: those "plus sides" CAN be beat)




oh no doubt. but why not have those "plus sides" and everything else as well?

i'm not saying that i'll be living with my parents forever. it's just to a point where i can get my own place without being in debt and starting off with less things to worry about.


quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
I find it interesting that so many adult children are willing to leech off their parents for so long, yet when their parents age or get sick, they aren't willing to take them on and care for them.



personally, i think the roles will switch with me and my parents. after i start working and start to make a living, they'll be at the age where they are retired and i know for a fact that they will need my assistance during those years. i would be a horrible son if i didn't help them in anyway that i could.

thats why right now i'm not spending money on things like rent or food so i could save up and start my future on the right foot, ie w/o debt and maybe even enough for a downpayment on my own property.


Posted by SasH21 on Oct-31-2007 16:16:

quote:
Originally posted by smuncky

thats why right now i'm not spending money on things like rent or food so i could save up and start my future on the right foot, ie w/o debt and maybe even enough for a downpayment on my own property.


Ya, I am doint this, too, but once I purchase it I am hoping to rent it out as an additional source of income. Buying a property is a great investment, and now you can buy one with a downpayment as low as 10k.

Sorry for switching off topic for a sec..hehe


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Oct-31-2007 16:20:

quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
really blows my mind how many people still live at home.


Are you really that surprised? Maybe it's cause I went to a Uni in the suburbs, where most of the student body was from Mississauga, but like about 80% (if not more) of the friends I met there still live with their parents. It's really quite the norm, so on the issue of girls' perception of this, they can't really stick their nose up about me living with my rents cause there's a good chance they're still living with theirs.

P.S. Background is a factor too. I'm from Russia, lol. There people usually live with their parents until they get married, and I've known families that lived with their parents even AFTER they got married (THAT is too much though imo). Back there, it said a lot about your relationship with your family if you still lived with them past the age of maturity (18 or whatever). If you moved away from your parents when you were 19, it'd be called "running away from your family". You're just not expected to leave your house that early unless your family is dysfunctional to begin with.


Posted by zoogla on Oct-31-2007 16:46:

Thumbs up

quote:
Originally posted by smuncky
oh no doubt. but why not have those "plus sides" and everything else as well?

i'm not saying that i'll be living with my parents forever. it's just to a point where i can get my own place without being in debt and starting off with less things to worry about.

personally, i think the roles will switch with me and my parents. after i start working and start to make a living, they'll be at the age where they are retired and i know for a fact that they will need my assistance during those years. i would be a horrible son if i didn't help them in anyway that i could.

thats why right now i'm not spending money on things like rent or food so i could save up and start my future on the right foot, ie w/o debt and maybe even enough for a downpayment on my own property.

100% agreed.

I'm planning on an investment property, too. Good call, SasH21.
quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I'm from Russia, lol.

o rly?


Posted by me@t k@tie on Oct-31-2007 16:58:

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The timing of children�s departure is dictated by cultural norms about higher education and first marriage, as well as by the local housing market, by social class, and by family structure. In the UK, the median age at which boys leave home for the first time is 22; for girls it is 20, according to research conducted by Mike Murphy, a professor of demography at the London School of Economics. Professor Murphy analysed data from the British Household Panel Study, which polled 2,272 mothers in 1991 about the ages at which all of their children had left home.

Often, adult children will return and not leave home for good until they marry. The age at which young adults enter into a first marriage in the UK has been rising steadily, as it has in most of Europe and in the US. Professor Murphy adds that boys tend to be a bit later about independence,� which explains the age discrepancy between sons and daughters. Murphy also finds that children tend to leave home earlier if they are from larger families, if their parents are well-educated and high-earners, and if their mothers have been divorced or remarried.

Finally, he explains that young adults often live with parents, or return home after leaving a first time, until they can afford to purchase their own housing.

Harper agrees, saying that young people have �become very pragmatic, because they know it�s tough out there, so if they can get their parents to pay as long as possible, it�s good for them�.


SOURCE

I think that there is nothing wrong with a guy who lives at home while he is attending post-graduate school or working to save up some money. If he is in his late twenties/early thirties and STILL lives with his parents, then I think it's time for him to leave, haha.

Pros of living at home:
-no rent
-free food (and yummy home cooked meals)
-if you are working, you can save up your money for when you move out
-you always have someone around so you won't feel lonely

Cons:
-sometimes parents are annoying and nosey
-less freedom
-can't have fun with your bf/gf whenever you want

IMO, the pros definitely outweigh the cons. I would never look down on someone who is still living with their parents. If my mom or dad lived in this area, there is no way in hell that I'd be living on my own.


Posted by zoogla on Oct-31-2007 17:21:

^^^ Geez, you didn't have to get all scientific on us!

lol


Posted by Yohan on Oct-31-2007 17:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
P.S. Background is a factor too. I'm from Russia, lol. There people usually live with their parents until they get married, and I've known families that lived with their parents even AFTER they got married (THAT is too much though imo). Back there, it said a lot about your relationship with your family if you still lived with them past the age of maturity (18 or whatever). If you moved away from your parents when you were 19, it'd be called "running away from your family". You're just not expected to leave your house that early unless your family is dysfunctional to begin with.

A lot of cultures have this thing; older parents live with their kids in their retirement. Interesting how some European cultures and Asian cultures share this.

Not uncommon for some households to have 3 generations live in same roof.


Posted by VolumE_TO on Oct-31-2007 17:26:

with family... but not for long hopefully


Posted by Chris Allen on Oct-31-2007 18:14:

I've been out on my own since I was 20. First apartment was pure shit, absolute dive.

Have a nice enough place now though


Posted by Endlesswave on Oct-31-2007 21:04:

So I should've moved out years ago. :P lol

Meh, I know people that live with rents until they get married, sometimes it's cultural elements that keep people home.


Posted by afterhrsgurl on Oct-31-2007 21:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave
Meh, I know people that live with rents until they get married,

ahaha when i was younger i always thought that would be me...until i hit 20


Posted by Endlesswave on Oct-31-2007 21:23:

quote:
Originally posted by afterhrsgurl
ahaha when i was younger i always thought that would be me...until i hit 20


I have no real issues w the rents. Except w the nagging about getting married issues, but that's just the Cypriot in them...


Posted by afterhrsgurl on Oct-31-2007 21:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave
I have no real issues w the rents. Except w the nagging about getting married issues, but that's just the Cypriot in them...

hahaha they're already pressuring u to get married?? u don't look that old lol


Posted by Endlesswave on Oct-31-2007 21:30:

They are but they got married young like a lot of Europeans.

I don't know where you're looking but...



<------------- not me.




I'm 28.


Posted by afterhrsgurl on Oct-31-2007 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave
They are but they got married young like a lot of Europeans.

I don't know where you're looking but...



<------------- not me.
I'm 28.

haha i was looking at ur avatar


Posted by FunkyCrew on Oct-31-2007 21:41:

quote:
Originally posted by SasH21
and as fayraree said - it has to do a lot with family values, too.


that's so true
I see nothing wrong with that - heck, I'd rather meet parents like that (coming over), rather then never meet them (been in that situation, for 2 years lol)
in any case, some people save money, some are comfortable with living the nest later in their life, whatever

also: I totally see the cultural part Cosmic and Katie mentioned - most of my older relatives were boggled out of their mind when I moved across the ocean on my own
in my country, girls live at home until they get married, guys are pretty much the same... when my parents got married, they lived with my grandparents, and my aunt, in a 2 bedroom apartment, until they could afford a small flat on their own
at the end of the day, it all pretty much boils to 1. convenience, 2. financially easier and 3. some cultural aspect


Posted by Endlesswave on Oct-31-2007 21:52:

quote:
Originally posted by afterhrsgurl
haha i was looking at ur avatar



That's PvD. lol

I'm in the picture thread.


Posted by afterhrsgurl on Oct-31-2007 21:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave
That's PvD. lol

I'm in the picture thread.

that looks nothin like PVD...i would have never guessed it's him..lol..these avatars are waay too small


Posted by zoogla on Oct-31-2007 21:57:

quote:
Originally posted by afterhrsgurl
haha i was looking at ur avatar

haha Chris, she thought you were hot...you should have left it that way!

lol


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