Shooting at a Carl Cox concert last night.

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Posted by catinthehat on Nov-05-2007 21:06:

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Originally posted by Spin Laden
not sure what other forums you're looking at. I know hockeyfights.com has no info

Right next door the MTLTAs are typing away about it too..

lol, yeah, thats what I meant...the other local forums on TA. Mtl, NY, and TO seem to be the only ones that really take concern with the issue.

Posted by Spin Laden on Nov-05-2007 21:11:

quote:
Originally posted by catinthehat
lol, yeah, thats what I meant...the other local forums on TA. Mtl, NY, and TO seem to be the only ones that really take concern with the issue.

I think the majority of TAs reside in those cities, I could be wrong. I know TA started around here..

In any case, the edm scene sucks outside those cites anyways - WMC doesn't count

Posted by musicsnob_NOT on Nov-05-2007 23:23:

quote:
Originally posted by She_Fitz

PS. They don't search in Miami and I must admit it does scare me a little everytime I have been out there.

I actually noticed the lack of a good search in Ibiza and actually remember thinking about it when I was there.

I still remember going to DJ Dan at Aria the week or two after someone died in the hip hop room. The search was very complete, including having to have your picture taken without a hat on before entering the club. Still felt weird and uneasy there the rest of the times I was there.

Posted by Dancing*Queen on Nov-05-2007 23:35:

That's horrible, watching that first video was really upsetting

R.I.P. to those who lost their lives last night...I can't even imagine

Posted by exstasie on Nov-05-2007 23:40:

I am the only one who wasn't disturbed or mentally bothered by the video?

I know the situation is horrible and RIP to those who lost their lives and don't wish for that to happen to anyone, but watching the video didn't really have an effect on me at all...

Posted by Rook on Nov-05-2007 23:57:

Posted by Skipper on Nov-06-2007 00:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Jeff Button
I wouldn't if I were him.

Think about the complications it would cause for all of the clubs/promoters who booked him, and how insane it would be to re-book with his hectic schedule. I think he was right for posting his condolences, and I'm sure at this point house music seems a lot less of a priority in life - but it IS his job, and he has contracts to fulfill.

OH NOS WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE PROMOTERS!

Posted by Skipper on Nov-06-2007 00:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Spike
WRONG. it is your "party choices" that feed the drug trade not the other way around

He said that the drug trade feeds OFF OF party choices. Same thing.

Posted by activate on Nov-06-2007 00:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Spin Laden
Kaos would still occur if something similar were to happen at the Guv, don't kid yourselves...

If something every went down at Guv, security there are professionals and are trained in how to hanlde the situation and direct people to the appropriate exits. As are the 4-10 police officers that they hire to work at every event/concert.

but regardless if the security or venue, if you have 7000 people in one room and someone pulls out a gun and starts shooting.. you're going to have people panicing.

a good example of an evacuation working well in Toronto would be lifeforce's freaking party at the Better Living Centre in 1998. They had a well trained security company hired for the event, and paid duty police officers on site. About midnight someone smelled smoke coming from an electrical room. 5-6 minutes later all 10,000 people inside were outside.

For the most part, people in toronto are on the ball (no pun intended)

Posted by Spin Laden on Nov-06-2007 01:01:

it's difficult to compare the two, imo. Pervasive smoke is one thing, but "someone smelled smoke" is another. Now if we had a raging fire...

That sort of magnitude is akin to what happened the other night at the Caracus gig. You hear bullet shots and see carnage in front of you, that would be a HUGE challenge at the Guv during those all access events, regardless of staff preparedness.

Posted by Swamper on Nov-06-2007 02:17:

quote:
Originally posted by activate
a good example of an evacuation working well in Toronto would be lifeforce's freaking party at the Better Living Centre in 1998.

2000

Posted by I_Am_Vince on Nov-06-2007 03:35:

Posted by Pett on Nov-06-2007 03:49:

quote:
Originally posted by activate
If something every went down at Guv, security there are professionals and are trained in how to hanlde the situation and direct people to the appropriate exits.

guv (not the only guilty ones) breaks the fire code every fucking weekend by a lot(i've looked up the floor density numbers)(ft2/person) and don't kid yourself, if panic ever ensued theres not fuck all security could do , people could get trampled there in a heartbeat.

Posted by UmmiE on Nov-06-2007 03:57:

I honestly dont know what would happen if something like this occurs with the amount of people being in there but,personally I have seen many exit points,I cant remember what party it was at GUV sometime last year......One security guy stood in the middle of 5 to 6 guys and took this guy down who was trying to be all tough and shit at the patio.....They have balls I have to give them that.

Posted by Atho on Nov-06-2007 06:30:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
I am the only one who wasn't disturbed or mentally bothered by the video?

I know the situation is horrible and RIP to those who lost their lives and don't wish for that to happen to anyone, but watching the video didn't really have an effect on me at all...

When you look at the facts, I guess not. But I think what everyone's reacting too is the video; if we had just read about it in a text post, i'm sure it wouldn't have gotten as much response.

It's just the way it's filmed too. It's so easy to picture yourself front dead center, feeding off the energy of the set, then you hear what sounds like distortion and you look around and there are bodies on the ground. Not even the the DJ notices. What are your thoughts at that point?

Posted by Atho on Nov-06-2007 06:31:

ignore this, it won't let me delete

Posted by Leon on Nov-06-2007 06:33:

I just don't get what took him so long to gtfo... then after like 10 seconds he just mario tunnel-warps out of there

Posted by activate on Nov-06-2007 07:52:

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Originally posted by Leon Oziel
I just don't get what took him so long to gtfo... then after like 10 seconds he just mario tunnel-warps out of there

with the monitors right there... he coxy probably just didn't hear. you can see how he starts looking up and looks kind of puzzled. probably seeing people moving around and spreading out and wondering what's going on.

Posted by Playa24_7 on Nov-06-2007 12:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Leon Oziel
after like 10 seconds he just mario tunnel-warps out of there

lol

quote:
Originally posted by activate
with the monitors right there... he coxy probably just didn't hear. you can see how he starts looking up and looks kind of puzzled. probably seeing people moving around and spreading out and wondering what's going on.

Yeah exactly. You're also not really listening for gun shots when your at a club lol, he was in the zone, spinning with the music blasting and the monitors facing him, and those didn't really sound like the stereotypical gun shots either. I've never heard one in real life so I don't know, but I also never want to.

Posted by Dr. DAS on Nov-06-2007 14:23:

Posted by Spin Laden on Nov-06-2007 14:55:

yup, the same folks that (allegedly) pound the fck out of you if you take the wrong exit

Posted by jon jon on Nov-06-2007 15:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Leon Oziel
I just don't get what took him so long to gtfo... then after like 10 seconds he just mario tunnel-warps out of there

lol @ "mario tunnel-warps"

Posted by Dr. DAS on Nov-06-2007 15:58:

...Mario tunnel warp...lol.

Reminds me of te scene in The Godfather when Sonny gets shot up at the toll booth, the toll collector takes his money and gets down...

You can see Cox lookin' around and then getting bumped from behind.

Still nutso this morning...

Posted by Jayx1 on Nov-06-2007 16:15:

youtube is down... but here is the alternative link

http://www.deletedyoutube.ftvteen.com/?v=q62K4_N5D1s

Posted by Jayx1 on Nov-06-2007 16:25:

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Originally posted by mute79
This is very unfortunate, but having been to Caracas and played there it does not surprise me one bit. South America is a very dangerous continent (though this is also what is appealing about it too for tourists).

:/

PARTS of south america...

ive been to argentina and chile and they are quite safe. Sure not as safe as Canada but i wouldnt ever put them in the same league as colombia or venezuela.

Venezuela especially in the past couple of years has been having a really big crime problem.

Lets not forget to put things into perspective. 45 gunshots on the streets of toronto last week. We arent as safe and great as we try to fool ourselves sometimes.

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