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Originally posted by rabbitjoker Sure - according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency: A safe average of noise for a 24-hour day is 70 dB, Any noise that reaches 85 dB or more can damage your hearing. http://www.nonoise.org/library/levels/levels.htm

Or try Health Canada:

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/iyh-vsv/envi...-loisirs_e.html

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* Does anyone have recommendations for ear plugs for DJs? The Er-20s are obviously great, but b/c they stick out of your ear, I don't see that being too useful when DJing. Something other than the expensive custom ones...

ER-25's. Those are the ones I wear and they do not stick out at all, but they are custom fits right into the canal, have to get them fitted all that stuff and they are 100 bux an ear but totally worth it if you use them often.

I currently use the ER-20's but will be going to an audiologist here in town to get a proper reading and custom's designed.

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Originally posted by Chris Allen I currently use the ER-20's but will be going to an audiologist here in town to get a proper reading and custom's designed.

good idea, these guys are pros and really know so much about what you'll need.

Does anyone know if there's a cheaper place to buy ER-20s other than the Etymotic site?

I lost one of my ear plugs last night and have to buy new ones. Probably just going to get them off the Etymotic site, but thought I'd ask.

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* Does anyone know if there's a cheaper place to buy ER-20s other than the Etymotic site? I lost one of my ear plugs last night and have to buy new ones. Probably just going to get them off the Etymotic site, but thought I'd ask.

http://www.heartoronto.ca/

You give them a credit card. About $20 plus tax. Shipping is free cause they stick them in the mail. Takes 3 days to receive in Toronto.

Very happy with my (brief) interaction with them.

Has anybody been able to get custom earplugs via benefits from work? I know you can get things like custom insoles through benefits but they have to be doctor recommended.

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Originally posted by DeleteFromUsers http://www.heartoronto.ca/ You give them a credit card. About $20 plus tax. Shipping is free cause they stick them in the mail. Takes 3 days to receive in Toronto. Very happy with my (brief) interaction with them.

Great, thank you.

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Originally posted by GGM Has anybody been able to get custom earplugs via benefits from work? I know you can get things like custom insoles through benefits but they have to be doctor recommended.

they used to have them at my work I think but it got taken away. the union is working on getting them again. I went ahead and just bought them myself. custom earplugs rock!

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Originally posted by kotsy they used to have them at my work I think but it got taken away. the union is working on getting them again. I went ahead and just bought them myself. custom earplugs rock!

When I used to build dies I would wear earplugs every day at work. Go through three disposable sets per day (at least).

I wonder if the $200+ is worthwhile given that one set is perhaps $0.10/pr in bulk quantities. That's $0.35/day (lets say I drop one pair on the ground every second day). Approx 200 working days per year. That's $70/year in disposables.

So, the worker has to go nearly three years on the same custom plugs to make them worthwhile.

I'd say most employees won't wash their plugs properly or hold on to their plugs long enough to get through the 3 years.

Foam plugs are likely less comfortable than custom but I bet the majority of people find them comfortable enough to work in....

Just a thought...

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Originally posted by DeleteFromUsers http://www.heartoronto.ca/ You give them a credit card. About $20 plus tax. Shipping is free cause they stick them in the mail. Takes 3 days to receive in Toronto. Very happy with my (brief) interaction with them.

Went for a hearing test there last week, awesome staff. Bought ER-20s and they're great at attenuating sound, but I think I'm going to go for custom hearing protection. Personally, I don't quite like the fit of the ER-20s.

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Originally posted by mnemonic. Personally, I don't quite like the fit of the ER-20s.

Do they tend to fall out, or are you referring to the comfort level?

Also, how much was your hearing test? Can they test for tinnitus?

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Originally posted by DeleteFromUsers When I used to build dies I would wear earplugs every day at work. Go through three disposable sets per day (at least). I wonder if the $200+ is worthwhile given that one set is perhaps $0.10/pr in bulk quantities. That's $0.35/day (lets say I drop one pair on the ground every second day). Approx 200 working days per year. That's $70/year in disposables. So, the worker has to go nearly three years on the same custom plugs to make them worthwhile. I'd say most employees won't wash their plugs properly or hold on to their plugs long enough to get through the 3 years. Foam plugs are likely less comfortable than custom but I bet the majority of people find them comfortable enough to work in.... Just a thought...

it's definitely more expensive to get customs in the long run but I find them to much better in terms of how they filter the sound. I find that foam ones bring the volume down too much and take out too much high end

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker The ear can bear 85 decibels of sound (about the volume of a leaf blower) for eight hours at a time without damage. In contrast, 100 decibels (about the level of noise at a nightclub) can start to damage the ears after only 15 minutes.

I don't know man...

I've been at Guv for most Saturday's for 11 years now. Not to mention all of the other clubs, concerts, and working at the airport on the ramp for about 5 years.

I've worn ear protection probably 5 % of all of those times and the last time I had my hearing checked, I passed with flying colours. That test was 2 years ago...

The only problem that I have is the occasional tinitis but it's more annoying than anything and certainly not constant...

I still motion to change the thread title to "Lets talk butt plugs"

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Originally posted by VDub I don't know man... I've been at Guv for most Saturday's for 11 years now. Not to mention all of the other clubs, concerts, and working at the airport on the ramp for about 5 years. I've worn ear protection probably 5 % of all of those times and the last time I had my hearing checked, I passed with flying colours. That test was 2 years ago... The only problem that I have is the occasional tinitis but it's more annoying than anything and certainly not constant...

you're just lucky

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Originally posted by The Potter Do they tend to fall out, or are you referring to the comfort level? Also, how much was your hearing test? Can they test for tinnitus?

No, just comfort level. I wonder If I should have actually gotten the smaller size.

The hearing test was $50.

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Originally posted by Yohan you're just lucky

Yah maybe...

But I'll say that when I do use ear plugs, it's just the 3M foamies in the back. They work just fine...

If anyone every wants a pair while at Guv, I'd be happy to supply. We have boxes of them back there...

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* Does anyone know if there's a cheaper place to buy ER-20s other than the Etymotic site? I lost one of my ear plugs last night and have to buy new ones. Probably just going to get them off the Etymotic site, but thought I'd ask.

I have always bought my ER-20s off Ebay. Usually about $15 after shipping all-in.

Much better than using Ety's site.

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Originally posted by mnemonic. No, just comfort level. I wonder If I should have actually gotten the smaller size. The hearing test was $50.

I got my custom molded earplugs (15's) from ListenUp Canada. They were $200 (worth every penny) but the hearing test with them was for free.

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Originally posted by kotsy it's definitely more expensive to get customs in the long run but I find them to much better in terms of how they filter the sound. I find that foam ones bring the volume down too much and take out too much high end

Are we talking industrial application or for music? I like to work in a quiet environment (I clearly picked the wrong profession) so taking the high end way down and lowering the overall volume at work is good stuff in my books. Annoying to listen to coleagues but perhaps I have greater lung capacity now...?

I use ER-20's to listen to music. Mucho better, though not as comfortable. Can't be bothered to spend the $200 on a set of custom acoustic plugs for occational use.

I go to parties of the EDM-Blast-your-ears-off type maybe once every couple months, and have been for the past 5 or 6 years. I haven't really noticed any kind of effect on my normal hearing, but then again I haven't had my hearing tested since high school.

I think the overwhelming scientific research does suggest that that kind of stress on your ears can and most will likely affect your hearing down the road. Down the road you'll probably just be able to buy new ears, though, so I say live it up and blast away for now

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Originally posted by srussell0018 Down the road you'll probably just be able to buy new ears, though, so I say live it up and blast away for now

I am holding onto this hope. In the meantime, it is a case of damage limitations! I always used to think that your hearing was one things that could not be repaired, due to how fine and delicate the little hairs are; however, I recently read that there have been some positive breakthroughs with the use of stem cells.

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Originally posted by The Potter I am holding onto this hope. In the meantime, it is a case of damage limitations! I always used to think that your hearing was one things that could not be repaired, due to how fine and delicate the little hairs are; however, I recently read that there have been some positive breakthroughs with the use of stem cells.

At the rate technology is advancing, in 20 years you'll probably be able to purchase most organs (Government willing).

If you go to clubs you are affecting your hearing, period. Movie theatres, Ipods, car stereos, regular commuting in the downtown core, transit above & below ground, all will affect your hearing greatly.

Compared to the lifestyles our elders led, you wont be losing you hearing at 75-80 years of age, but in your 50-60s. If you are exposed to loud levels of noise occupationally, expect to be a hearing aid candidate by your mid to late 40s.

Just like vision, we are all prone to losing our hearing at a gradual state. Genetics play a role in this precipitous slope.

Wearing ear plugs to the guv is a start but probably already a tad late if most of you are in your mid to late 20's. By now most of the early damage has been done. Ringing/buzzing/chirping the day after is the way your ears tell you they are repairing damage done. Over time the ringing you hear the day after becomes less noticable because the damage left to repair (at those frequencies) is minimal (and already done). Prolonged tinnitus is a sign of noise induced hearing loss. The single larget contributer to hearing loss in our generation. The question isn't if you will need hearing aids but when.

To touch on the subject of ear protection. If you are front and center every weekend 2 times + a week, in 5-8 hr sessions. I would say go with 20db dampening or greater. If you like your once a week parties, sit in the center but also cruise around the club for 4-6 hours. I would then say go with the 15s, they are by far the best. Price wise you are looking at 200$, if you are lucky and know someone you can get them for 120-140$.

The yellow foam inserts are a waste of time. They will protect your hearing to an extent but why go and enjoy good music if your going to plug your ears?

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