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Posted by stren on Mar-15-2008 17:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Timothy
To honest, I think BMW really tried to put Kubica on pole position so he's has to make his pitsstop much sooner than the rest of the guys in the top10. If he didn't make his misstake, he'd probably be on pole.


judging from P2 times, I'd say Kubica has about 0.2 sec less fuel then Hamilton, which is a like 1 lap ? there or thereabouts


Posted by Orko on Mar-15-2008 18:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Timothy
I'm really impressed by Honda btw. Rubins in his crappy Honda outqualifing Alonso, haha. It seems the coming of Ross Brawn has had a major positive effect.


Brawn cannot have had that effect on the car. He came in AFTER the car was already designed and built. Where you will see him make a diff is in next year's car, and strategies this season.


Posted by apple country on Mar-16-2008 04:04:

Getting close to the hot start of '08!! im hyped.


Posted by Philby on Mar-16-2008 06:28:

holy crap what a race hehe, i think only 7 cars managed to get across the line
a few hard luck stories, bloody webber getting bumped in the first turn, out of the race
bourdais as well at the end, poor bastard haha and ferrari too
LOL at coulthards comments: "if alonso doesn't take responsibility for his actions i'm going to kick a few colours of shit out of the little bastard!" hahahaha

well done to hamilton! even though its only the first race, should be some interesting results this year hopefully with bmw looking pretty good, toro rosso were pretty good today as well! not a bad start!


Posted by stren on Mar-16-2008 06:39:

and I thought canada 07 was a crazy race, damn.
Tough luck for ferrari, I wonder what their true pace is in relative to BMW and Mclaren.

I'm disappointed strategy and Nakajima ruined Robert's race hope its better next race

Bourdais, stayed out of trouble and was unlucky to only get 1 point

Kimi was taking a lot of risks that didn't pay off, just like Alonso in canada


quote:
Originally posted by Philby
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LOL at coulthards comments: "if alonso doesn't take responsibility for his actions i'm going to kick a few colours of shit out of the little bastard!" hahahaha



what prompted that ???


Posted by Philby on Mar-16-2008 07:36:

quote:
Originally posted by stren


what prompted that ???


when louise was talking to him after massa took him out, thats what he said about the incident, he said it was a dodgy move, he did the same thing to someone last year and took responsibility for it, so if massa didnt i guess he would be pissed off hehe.
martin brundle said though it looked like a fair move, he was up there and coulthard shouldnt have been too unhappy about it...?


Posted by stren on Mar-16-2008 08:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Philby
when louise was talking to him after massa took him out, thats what he said about the incident, he said it was a dodgy move, he did the same thing to someone last year and took responsibility for it, so if massa didnt i guess he would be pissed off hehe.
martin brundle said though it looked like a fair move, he was up there and coulthard shouldnt have been too unhappy about it...?


but why did he talk about Alonso ?

It was a fair move by Massa IMO


Posted by pmoisse on Mar-16-2008 10:44:

Really exciting race! Shit luck for Bourdais who kept his nose clean all race and deserved the 4th place he was working with right until the end.

Regarding the Massa move - I thought it was a little ambitious but DC should have seen him and not turned down so hard. Sure there might still have been contact, but it wouldn't have been as bad.

I liked how much the cars moved around. There were a couple offs due to getting a little wide or a little out of shape. This season will reward the smooth and the brave instead of the electronics.


Posted by Philby on Mar-16-2008 13:15:

quote:
Originally posted by stren
but why did he talk about Alonso ?

It was a fair move by Massa IMO


lol!
i meant massa, not alonso
sorry i should read what i write!!!


Posted by Trance Nutter on Mar-16-2008 13:27:

Got home about an hour ago from the race (went straight from track-airport-Adelaide)

You have no idea how hot it was in the stands, bloody ridiculous. And then all the bars and food shops ran out of water which just amde things even worse....


Anyway, Nico!!!!!


Barrichello has been DQ'ed too so Nakajima, Bourdais and Raikonnen are all promoted, so 1 point for Kimi now, 2 for Bourdais, 3 for Kaz.

Kaz is a one man wrecking machine. Hopefully he settles down soon cos he does have genuine pace, he's just so erratic behind the wheel.

Fisichella's interview straight after the crash was hilarious too, dunno if it was broadcast anywhere (I think it was a local reporter so hence the stupid questions) but:
What happened?
"A lunatic ran into the side of me"
How much damage?
"Well I'm out of the race!"


My seats were amazing, on the outside of turn 2 so we could see ~50 metres of the main straight, turn 1, turn 2 and part of the run towards turn 3. Yes, it means we had perfect seats for all the carnage that unfolded at turn 1, bloody hell it was outta control some of the stuff we saw.


Posted by stren on Mar-16-2008 14:21:

^^ good stuff nutter. I think Fisi said something about a "kamikaze driver" in his official post race quote



lulz


Posted by apple country on Mar-16-2008 20:22:

the race was a great thrilling opener. and round we go next week again!


Posted by noikeee on Mar-16-2008 22:02:

My comments on an F1 forum...

quote:
Lewis - deserved complete domination win. I was already thinking of how similar it had been to his Canada win and then he said it in the press conference.

Heikki - not as quick as Lewis but relatively solid, did well to trick Kimi and did an AWESOME final pass on Alonso - but if he really hit the pit speed limiter on the main straight...

Massa - that turn 1 incident was really pathetic. I also got the idea that the crash with DC was his fault although that might be a bit debatable. I liked his pass on Nakajima(?) at the quick chicane. Overall, bad race.

Kimi - was doing an absolutely awesome race until he risked too much and outbreaked himself trying to pass Heikki. From there on, it was like he was driving on drugs, the complete opposite of until then. Terrible.

Ferrari's strategy - Hire someone new.

Ferrari's reliability - Let's not go there.

BMWs - a bit disappointing, looks like they're great on qualy pace but not really anything special in the race. Kubica didn't do an awesome race but didn't deserve to get wrecked by Nakajima like that. Heidfeld was, well, Heidfeld-style. Got a great result without ever looking fast.

Barrichello - great race, but the safety car blew it.

Alonso - a true champion performance in a crap car.

Bourdais - great debut, he must've sweared a lot when his engine went off. However Fisichella must've been pissed by that first corner incident.

Red Bull - must be very pissed with the way people took their cars as a target to push off from the race.

Glock's accident - scared the shit out of me at first sight. But it was more spectacular than really any serious/dangerous. Driver mistake.

Trulli - let's not forget he did a good race. Another guy who didn't deserve his car playing reliability tricks with him.

Piquet - Piss poor, pure Mazzacane style.

Rosberg - Congratulations on the first podium. Looked solid.


When I wrote this I thought Bourdais had caused that first turn crash with Fisichella, but it now seems like the "kamikaze driver" was Piquet.


Posted by Orko on Mar-20-2008 18:59:

WOW!

ITV will no longer broadcast F1 after this season. The BBC is once again awarded the contract. ITV still had 2 years left on the their deal, so why the switch?

Very Interesting. Hopefully BBC has somebody good lined up for the top caster job.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Mar-20-2008 21:04:

Back where it belongs.


Fucking adverts.


Posted by The_G0dfather on Mar-20-2008 23:07:

Never seen it on the BBC, wo are/where the experts back then?


Posted by nchs09 on Mar-20-2008 23:10:

quote:
Originally posted by stren
^^ good stuff nutter. I think Fisi said something about a "kamikaze driver" in his official post race quote



lulz
Is there a link to the entire thing in pdf or something?

or was it not leaked to the public later on?


Posted by stren on Mar-21-2008 08:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
ITV still had 2 years left on the their deal, so why the switch?


they say its "commercial" reasons, apparently they don't want to make loads of money anymore


Posted by pmoisse on Mar-21-2008 10:18:

quote:
Originally posted by The_G0dfather
Never seen it on the BBC, wo are/where the experts back then?


Murray Walker and James Hunt back in the day. Then it was Murray and a bunch of other people. Brundle only joined once he got out of the car which was around the same time ITV took over and signed Murray to be the lead commentator.

Hopefully BBC signs Brundle and James Allan. Great coverage by those two and hopefully I can then watch it in English here instead of Dutch


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Mar-21-2008 15:06:

Most of the BBC team went over to ITV when they took over, including the commentary team. I imagine they'll just swap back. At least I hope this is the case because F1 without Brundle and Allan won't be the same.


Posted by nchs09 on Mar-21-2008 17:06:

I didnt get to watch the race, watching it now... downloaded a random torrent of it and it is some Spanish commentators, they are doing an ace job


Posted by Quantized on Mar-22-2008 15:03:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
I imagine they'll just swap back. At least I hope this is the case because F1 without Brundle and Allan won't be the same.


I hope they will swap back too, i can't imagine watching F1 without these 2 guys commentating.


Posted by The_G0dfather on Mar-23-2008 00:04:

A ferrari 1/2 it is for the start

McL way back coz of that penalty


Posted by Timothy on Mar-23-2008 06:00:

I don't think the penalty was fair. If Mclaren were on the raceline in a corner, that would be fair since that's considered as blocking but this is not the case here. Heidfeld had enough to time to swerve around them and be back on the racing line before he started breaking into the corner. Watch this clip.

Heidfeld Q3


Posted by pmoisse on Mar-23-2008 08:36:

Well that was fucking boring.

I'm happy I'm still awake from last night, otherwise I would be pissed if I got up early to watch that.


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