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Posted by capo tutti di on Jan-31-2008 18:40:

lots black only schools in the motherland...we could all pitch in for plane tickets


Posted by Elendil on Jan-31-2008 20:06:

How the hell did this get approved?

Have they forgotten the firestorm over public funding for religious schools? What the hell is the difference with this?

I find it absolutely preposterous that they would feel a separation from the mix of our current society will somehow allow a demographic (be it black, or whomever) to succeed in our society???

Just absurd.


Posted by Xavier Moriarty on Jan-31-2008 20:16:

quote:
Originally posted by �Zm�zis


If you really want to get into discussion on the Kosova War and discuss relationships between the Serbs, Croats, Yugos, Bosnians, Albanians etc... then I'd be glad to discuss...


i wanna get into it, so please enlighten me?? what do you know about kosovo??? are you Serbian or albanian??? are you from ex yu at all??


Posted by afterhrsgurl on Jan-31-2008 20:32:

quote:
Originally posted by zokissima
lol seriously I was gonna comment on that shit too, but there just doesn't even seem to be a point any more.

lol...if you thought for a second that i was actually being serious you made the right decision by not commenting

quote:
Originally posted by Tb.
i dont hate any ex-yu countries...

LOL.. neither do I...my rent's neighbours are serbs and they've done more for my parents than any of their non serb friends

quote:
Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
i wanna get into it, so please enlighten me?? what do you know about kosovo??? are you Serbian or albanian??? are you from ex yu at all??

take it to pm...fuck who gives a shit


Posted by Xavier Moriarty on Jan-31-2008 20:44:

i do


Posted by miljan on Jan-31-2008 20:57:

I'm sure Serbs had something to do with this.


Posted by Xavier Moriarty on Jan-31-2008 21:12:

quote:
Originally posted by miljan
I'm sure Serbs had something to do with this.


hear hear !!


Posted by Spam on Jan-31-2008 21:59:

How did this get approved? Guilty, white, misled, ignorant, liberal politicians afraid of being accused of being racist, being pressured by two black mothers and their well-paid lobbyists.

We already have vocational schools that are focused more on wood shop, auto, and other technical skills for problem kids and students who couldn't or can't succeed in the mainstream high school curriculum. Why not add an 'Afrocentric' course to these types of schools to help these students succeed?

What scares me is this.

Did anyone else's high school ever get into a rivalry with another high school? Usually this happened between a Public and a Catholic school that were in close vicinity... I saw this happen between a few schools in Mississauga.

Now, those same rivalries will exist, but between the 'black' (officially, anyone is allowed to go, it's just the material being taught is focused more on black issues) schools and the Public and/or Catholic schools... What kind of tension between the communities involved will this promote?

What was wrong with opening up more schools for ALL disadvantaged kids? Black kids aren't failing because they're black. They're failing because the black community has a higher percentage of low-income, and single-parent families. These conditions exist in ALL racial brackets, just at different levels. Why the hell would they only focus on the black community, when it's a problem for ALL low-income and single-parent kids?

I don't have the answers to many of my own questions, but I DO know that opening a school specifically focused on black students is one of the WRONG answers.


Posted by UmmiE on Jan-31-2008 22:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Spam
How did this get approved? Guilty, white, misled, ignorant, liberal politicians afraid of being accused of being racist, being pressured by two black mothers and their well-paid lobbyists.



They actually played a very nice move.....They were like since they will play the race card anyways we shall make them happy for few hours and once they wake up next morining we shall let them know about how to go about and get these schools up and running.At a simple cost of $325,000 ONLY from their own pockets.


Posted by SniFFleS on Jan-31-2008 22:29:

Send all the little spooks to jail. Thats the best place for them to learn what they will need to get by. Maybe they will get reunited with there deadbeat fathers.


Posted by malek on Jan-31-2008 22:39:


Posted by Spam on Jan-31-2008 22:45:

quote:
Originally posted by UmmiE
They actually played a very nice move.....They were like since they will play the race card anyways we shall make them happy for few hours and once they wake up next morining we shall let them know about how to go about and get these schools up and running.At a simple cost of $325,000 ONLY from their own pockets.


Well I'm happy that I don't pay municipal taxes to Toronto. If McGuinty's Liberals are true to their word, these schools will get 0 funding from the Province. Typical David Miller and TO City Council style, cry poor, then waste more and more money on liberal social policies and programs.

You guys have a great Government over there east of Queen Hazel's Dominion of Mississauga.


Posted by Kamka on Jan-31-2008 23:33:

quote:
Originally posted by afterhrsgurl
lol...if you thought for a second that i was actually being serious you made the right decision by not commenting


I didn't get what you were saying, that's why I was asking... as I said, I didn't know whether you were joking or actually being serious. For myself, as I have said, I thought that the relations between Serbs, Croatians, and others have more or less normalised, I don�t think they hate each other, that's why I was surprised at your comment - maybe it was a joke, but I didn't get it, I wasn't sure, that's all.

I was gonna write more, but better keep it to myself.


Posted by afterhrsgurl on Feb-01-2008 00:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Kamka
I didn't get what you were saying, that's why I was asking... as I said, I didn't know whether you were joking or actually being serious. For myself, as I have said, I thought that the relations between Serbs, Croatians, and others have more or less normalised, I don�t think they hate each other, that's why I was surprised at your comment - maybe it was a joke, but I didn't get it, I wasn't sure, that's all.
I was gonna write more, but better keep it to myself.

huh? lol...that comment wasn't directed towards u...check again who i quoted and why...and i think by now it should be obvious whether i was joking or not..who gives a shit really...anyways.......lol


Posted by Jem_hadar on Feb-01-2008 02:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Kamka
For myself, as I have said, I thought that the relations between Serbs, Croatians,


I am reminded of last year's 2007 Ausie Open...

Day 1... the fucking Croats and teh Serbs went at it against each mob style down under!

They had to be ejected from the grounds!!


so much intensity. horrible.


Posted by zokissima on Feb-01-2008 13:46:

quote:
Originally posted by afterhrsgurl
..who gives a shit really...anyways.......lol


Obviously you don't. But others who are still concerned with misconceptions, and even more so with people loosely spreading misconceptions, still do. Seriously, you should have just kept your comments out of this thread, since it had nothing to do with the topic of discussion. Especially considering Oz said it was an inside joke; thus keep it inside to yourselves unless you really want to do the right thing and actually explain the situation, as you see it, fully.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Feb-01-2008 14:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Tb.
ignorant seljaci




LOL


Posted by Kamka on Feb-01-2008 16:35:

quote:
Originally posted by afterhrsgurl
huh? lol...that comment wasn't directed towards u...check again who i quoted and why...and i think by now it should be obvious whether i was joking or not..who gives a shit really...anyways.......lol


That's ok I sent you a PM... I see now that you're joking.. I wasn't sure at the very beginning, that's all It's good to know that I wasn't mistaken (that you guys don't really hate each other) Byee


A few years ago, when I lived in a different part of Scarborough, there was a nice Yugo boy that waited with me at a bus stop almost every morning when I went to school... and sometimes we took the same bus going home in the afternoon. Too bad I never really strike up a conversation with him, he seemed like a nice guy (although sometimes stern) but I was too shy. Ah well....


Posted by Jem_hadar on Feb-01-2008 16:37:



They just want a fair education too, that doesn't discriminate against on amazon women.


Posted by afterhrsgurl on Feb-01-2008 20:59:

quote:
Originally posted by zokissima
Seriously, you should have just kept your comments out of this thread, since it had nothing to do with the topic of discussion. Especially considering Oz said it was an inside joke; thus keep it inside to yourselves unless you really want to do the right thing and actually explain the situation, as you see it, fully.

actually the joke did have something to do with the "theme" of this thread which is why i said: "fuck...this thread makes me wanna send my kids to an ALL BALKAN school" which would mean to separate them from all other cultures and races...you see the connection?? And the serb part is what many ppl would still assume anyways (that we don't get along)which beleive it or NOT was part of the joke. Anyways, honestly if you can't handle the joke i dont't give a shit bc if i did i wouldn't have made the joke in the first place lol. I made myself clear and if you're still offended then YOU go ahead and do the "right" thing by explaining the situation as YOU see (but it has nothing do do with this topic as you've said so maybe u should start a new thread lol)


Posted by MarkT on Feb-01-2008 21:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Spam
... Black kids aren't failing because they're black. They're failing because the black community has a higher percentage of low-income, and single-parent families. These conditions exist in ALL racial brackets, just at different levels. Why the hell would they only focus on the black community, when it's a problem for ALL low-income and single-parent kids?

I don't have the answers to many of my own questions, but I DO know that opening a school specifically focused on black students is one of the WRONG answers.


that sums up my feeling as well.

is anyone not concerned at the message this potentially sends to the kids who would be enrolled there? e.g. you're too stupid/poor/at risk/different/disadvantaged (or whatever criteria you care to insert) to go through a "normal" public school?

I'm all for making attempts to engage students of ALL ethnicities, socio-economic groups, etc...but this is getting ridiculous.

it's akin to the advocates of introducing ebonics to the education system in some areas.

sorry...but try identifying and addressing the reasons WHY certain groups have disproportionate drop-out levels. I *highly* doubt it is the ciriculum and will suggest it's due to socio-economic factors or a lack of parental involvement and emphasis on the importance of *at least* graduating high school.

the solutions suggested here, including the school, does NOT address those issues.


Posted by Yohan on Feb-01-2008 22:50:

quote:
Originally posted by �Zm�zis
I threw it out there because its true... most still hate eachother...

Just as North Koreans have a thing against South Koreans

Wrong.

Koreans don't hate each other, unless you're into hardcore ideology thing. (anti commie, any capitalist, whatever)

Biggest aid giver to north korea is south korea.

lol@ some people's buttons getting pushed


Posted by afterhrsgurl on Feb-01-2008 23:22:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
lol@ some people's buttons getting pushed

no shit lol


Posted by Xavier Moriarty on Feb-02-2008 10:18:

yeah, nice joke. being called (even in a joke) a butcher by some dweeb who thinks he knows everything...funny !!!!

you know whats even funnier?? i just asked simple question. and now that you have an explanation for your comment (i dont hold nothing against you,its a part of your inside circle of friends, its funny for you, 5 thumbs up) somehow, ill be a bad guy just for asking to clarify that comment to me.

you know what gets me the most??? i get mad at myself for getting mad about things like this.

please do me a favour, just translate this to your friend cause my english is not really good. "ko sa decom spava popisan se budi".

not funny. not funny at all.


Posted by zokissima on Feb-02-2008 16:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
please do me a favour, just translate this to your friend cause my english is not really good. "ko sa decom spava popisan se budi".



lol so true! Najveci idioti smo mi sto smo idiotski reagovali prema djetinskim komentarima.

quote:

lol@ some people's buttons getting pushed

lol yeah, lets make offhand remarks and inside jokes for...hmmm...Canadians fignting in Afghanistan and the Afghanis hating on them. Too soon? Situation may be totally different, but context of argument is the same.

Honestly, making light publicly of ANY situation dealing with such recent incidents just isn't the most tasteful thing to do, IMO.


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