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Posted by Unique2701 on Mar-23-2008 23:54:

Haha, yeah that's how we know Holding Onto Nothing is actually Big Sky.


Posted by SMC on Mar-24-2008 00:25:

quote:
Originally posted by a98
well duh! you know what i meant. not personality as in more interesting or anything like that, but personality as in something that makes the track easy to spot in a set/club among all the other tracks.

nowadays most of the trance use so much same sounds (weather it's full-on psy or mainstream trance), so when you hear those lyrics you instantly know what the track is. and after you've heard a new track in a club for the first time you probably forget everything about it in the next day, unless it has vocals, you'll remember those.


I understand what you meant, i just wanted to add another perspective on "personality".


Posted by Ian on Mar-24-2008 01:07:

perhaps he's seen what basshunter has done in the uk and realised that to get to the true number 1 in the world, he's got to release pop pap that all the chavs will buy in their droves, forever moving away from what trance stands for for the sake of a nice retirement fund.


Posted by ToF on Mar-24-2008 05:24:

quote:
Originally posted by K4SP4
I can't understand all these bashing post before 1st listening.

You'll be able to understand the minute it comes out... lol


Posted by RebeL9 on Mar-24-2008 08:26:

quote:
Originally posted by a98
well duh! you know what i meant. not personality as in more interesting or anything like that, but personality as in something that makes the track easy to spot in a set/club among all the other tracks.

nowadays most of the trance use so much same sounds (weather it's full-on psy or mainstream trance), so when you hear those lyrics you instantly know what the track is. and after you've heard a new track in a club for the first time you probably forget everything about it in the next day, unless it has vocals, you'll remember those.


considoring the amount of crappy vocal trance which is flooding the market now I am amazed if anyone can remember one single track the next day.
So it doesn't matter how much vocals producer put into their tracks. The end result is almost always that the track will sound as cheesy crap.


Posted by capka_mala on Mar-24-2008 12:56:

Thumbs down

vocals,vocals,vocals.... boring....


Posted by body125z on Mar-24-2008 12:56:

its a total crap .


Posted by Reactic on Mar-24-2008 15:12:

sample of

9. Armin Van Buuren ft. Vera Os - What If

can be found on myspace.

don't know if someone has posted before..


Posted by isoterra on Mar-24-2008 15:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
perhaps he's seen what basshunter has done in the uk and realised that to get to the true number 1 in the world, he's got to release pop pap that all the chavs will buy in their droves, forever moving away from what trance stands for for the sake of a nice retirement fund.


on the subject of former trance legends going down this route: http://www.mattdarey.com/mp3player/UA/mediaplayer.htm


Posted by Nostalgic on Mar-24-2008 17:14:

Looks to be a classic.


Posted by wotyzoid on Mar-24-2008 17:36:

quote:
Originally posted by K4SP4
If U know all about producing music, so why U don't do it?


OH NO HE DIDN"T!!! AHH HELLLLLLL NO!!


Posted by 8Wonders on Mar-24-2008 20:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Reactic
sample of

9. Armin Van Buuren ft. Vera Os - What If

can be found on myspace.

don't know if someone has posted before..


That's actually quite nice...


Posted by body125z on Mar-24-2008 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by 8Wonders
That's actually quite nice...


oh fuck that illness is contagious..

listening to going wrong univeral religion mix the only parts i can say i listen a trance track is 4.07 to 4.22 min and 5.34 to 6.18 min ..

extended mixx maybe is a bit better..
the other track ft vera sucks a looot
.

edit

ok extended mix of going eropng is good enough.


Posted by Fresh Prince on Mar-25-2008 09:15:

quote:
Originally posted by body125z
the other track ft vera sucks a looot


Disagree, I think it's much better, well anything is better than Going Wrong, but still, I like this one, there needn't be any remix of it.


Posted by Stino on Mar-25-2008 09:15:

quote:
Originally posted by 8Wonders
That's actually quite nice...


agree here, good laid back stuff and melody wise quite strong.


Posted by Philby on Mar-25-2008 12:23:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceArmstrong


has there been any good vocal trance lately?



what about trance remixes of other songs, as opposed to a trance song written with vocals? i like stuff like the remixes of delerium etc. its just that most trance vocal tunes the lyrics are just kinda well crap. i dont mind hearing trance remixes of other songs. any good ones recently?


also to add to the armin bashing lol
remember that interview he did where he hung shit on dj sammy for "ruining trance"?? have the tables now turned or something? hehe


Posted by RebeL9 on Mar-25-2008 12:32:

trance producers should keep their mouth shut when it comes to certain things.

Solar Stone in an interview on trance.nu a few years ago:

Over the next few years, how do you think trance will evolve?

Rich: I'm more concerned about the state of the world at the moment, but the current climate suggests that most of the greedy manipulative money-making types are jumping ship, so the scene shall return to those who created it, possibly creating two split scenes, i'e a 'Pop Trance' which as we all know isnt really trance just pop music with a similar style of production' aimed at making money, and a Real 'Trance' scene, which is what we're about, melody and quality production for people who love music first
and foremost.


Posted by MeLLyMeL on Mar-25-2008 14:12:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
trance producers should keep their mouth shut when it comes to certain things.

Solar Stone in an interview on trance.nu a few years ago:

Over the next few years, how do you think trance will evolve?

Rich: I'm more concerned about the state of the world at the moment, but the current climate suggests that most of the greedy manipulative money-making types are jumping ship, so the scene shall return to those who created it, possibly creating two split scenes, i'e a 'Pop Trance' which as we all know isnt really trance just pop music with a similar style of production' aimed at making money, and a Real 'Trance' scene, which is what we're about, melody and quality production for people who love music first
and foremost.
That's a fuking awesome statement!

I used to be a vocal whore back when vocals weren't running the scene.

I am slooooowly moving out of trance and into other genre's because the "pop" remakes or cheesy trance remakes that even 18 year old kiddies know is ridiculous.

Never been a huge Armin fan and I only listen to his show to hear some new stuff while @ work. Def not looking forward to the album and not looking forward to him live and playing the entire album.


Posted by Simon on Mar-25-2008 15:19:

quote:
Originally posted by body125z
oh fuck that illness is contagious..

listening to going wrong univeral religion mix the only parts i can say i listen a trance track is 4.07 to 4.22 min and 5.34 to 6.18 min ..

extended mixx maybe is a bit better..
the other track ft vera sucks a looot
.

edit

ok extended mix of going eropng is good enough.


Oh stop already.


Posted by Palladium on Mar-25-2008 17:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Philby
also to add to the armin bashing lol
remember that interview he did where he hung shit on dj sammy for "ruining trance"?? have the tables now turned or something? hehe


quote:
Originally posted by Palladium
i don't mind dance music become mainstream but, why the hell all these people listen to this cheesy music and call it trance? they're like:

hey! i just heard this new trance album by armin van buuren

is not trance, respect to Armin but is not trance.


quote:
Originally posted by Rebel9
trance producers should keep their mouth shut when it comes to certain things.



Posted by Ian on Mar-25-2008 19:13:

quote:
Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
I used to be a vocal whore back when vocals weren't running the scene.

I am slooooowly moving out of trance and into other genre's because the "pop" remakes or cheesy trance remakes that even 18 year old kiddies know is ridiculous.


funny thing is mel, that just 'a few' years ago, you were one of those 18 year old kiddies


Posted by MeLLyMeL on Mar-25-2008 19:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
funny thing is mel, that just 'a few' years ago, you were one of those 18 year old kiddies
I know and I was flying all over North America to catch these trance dj's I had never seen before. [That's what sets me apart from the typical 18 year old kiddies.. I also never used glow sticks in my life *proud*]

Now I won't even go unless it's free

lol


Posted by CGRumler on Mar-25-2008 20:11:

Now, don't ask me why, but I actually kind of like "Going Wrong".

I find it catchy, for some odd reason.

I won't be surprised if the rest of this album is crap, though. I'll approach it cautiously as I did with that daft "Shivers" album.......which, quite frankly......gave me shivers!

HEYO!


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Mar-25-2008 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Palladium



Posted by Fresh Prince on Mar-25-2008 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
funny thing is mel, that just 'a few' years ago, you were one of those 18 year old kiddies


Well guess what; +1


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