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Most people will like Generic Trance, just as most people like Pop music.

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Originally posted by Subtle I`d actually take a Supersaw over those plucky Anjunabeat tracks with chopped up vocals and rolling basslines any day.

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Almost all of them are extremely boring (well, i only like a few Daniel Kandi productions). IMO, Anjunadeep as well. Completely uninspired and generic.

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Originally posted by Docuebag 100% Uhh, uh.... Since the Dutch got their hands on it.

Then you probably are the one who asked at youtube if people from Holland and Germany are called the Dutch...

Before the Supersaw (eg Cygnus X - Superstring (Rank 1 Remix)) there were other synth sounds which were extremly popular. EG DJ Quicksilver and Three'n'One.

Three'n'One - Reflect

Three'n'One - Sin City

DJ Quicksilver - Bellisima

Red 5 vs. MC Miker G - Da beat goes


I bet most synthesizer lovers all like these sounds.

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Originally posted by Docuebag 100% If the "generic" trance that TA hates so much is so easy to make, why isn't everyone famous?

Maybe because quite a few producers don't care about "getting famous," or even if they do, they would rather not do it via the route of copying what's already out there?

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Just because the tools are there doesn't mean it's easy. And even if music is cheesy, doesn't mean makin' it is easy.

The fact that something isn't easy doesn't mean it automatically deserves respect. Digging a hundred deep holes with a teaspoon and then filling them back in would be very difficult.

But it would also be pointless.

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Originally posted by nefardec not really it just takes balls you have to take a risk in order to be original, you have to embrace your mistakes and missteps, and move out of your comfort zone. maybe uplifting trance is so comforting to people that it makes it more difficult

its actually the safe zone of labels... if you could just "release" tracks to the wide open air and earn something from it it would be easier to do (you wouldnt sell your hard worked music for free right?)... but you need your back covered with a label to protect from stealing and stuff like that... and the labels need you... to make money... so making a groundbraking new sound and build is one thing... but there is a long road from there to getting your stuff released...

Trance is dead. Deal with it.

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Originally posted by Vortex_SA its actually the safe zone of labels... if you could just "release" tracks to the wide open air and earn something from it it would be easier to do (you wouldnt sell your hard worked music for free right?)... but you need your back covered with a label to protect from stealing and stuff like that... and the labels need you... to make money... so making a groundbraking new sound and build is one thing... but there is a long road from there to getting your stuff released...

What if a producer just doesn't care that his music gets stolen or he doesn't make any money on it? Have you ever thought about that at all?

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Originally posted by eckmek What if a producer just doesn't care that his music gets stolen or he doesn't make any money on it? Have you ever thought about that at all?

Absolutely disgusted on such people, their races and their two faces!

I don't believe Trance producers make their tracks the way they sound now just because of money. I don't think well known DJ's they travel all over the world just for that, because I know some of them could easily retire.
I do believe labels are money driven had have huge influence on producers.
Also I think they use vocals because others do, which is a pity.

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Originally posted by eckmek What if a producer just doesn't care that his music gets stolen or he doesn't make any money on it? Have you ever thought about that at all?

yea i have, and to tell you the truth i cant even imagine what a crappy feeling is to hear your hard worked melody/riff on some other track with not even a single note (text) to mention its yours... im sorry i just cant see how one can deal with it...

i bet most producers like me dont care bout money... but how else are people going to give you a listen unless its properly promoted by a label? i dont see people digging for unsigned artists, i see people buy (or rip) music that has been released by their labels of choice... and if ull make your 5 bucks, what the hell, so be it...

and Axer, who do you mean? i didnt get that...

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Originally posted by Trance-MB I don't believe Trance producers make their tracks the way they sound now just because of money. I don't think well known DJ's they travel all over the world just for that, because I know some of them could easily retire. I do believe labels are money driven had have huge influence on producers. Also I think they use vocals because others do, which is a pity.

One of the smartest posts of the thread.

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Originally posted by Jimmy Trance is dead. Deal with it.

lol not really, its very much alive. and for all u classic trance lovers, look at trance now in 2008 and 99 trance is making a comeback.

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Originally posted by Trance-MB Three'n'One - Sin City

Choon.

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Originally posted by AustralianGQ lol not really, its very much alive. and for all u classic trance lovers, look at trance now in 2008 and 99 trance is making a comeback.

Full of shit as usual, I see.

Hey Vortex_SA
What I meant that is that I figured out that someone has access to my studio and my production samples. I found out that he's been stealing it and selling it out. Reason being mad is to know that, it's being sold behind my back and I'm not making any money off it. More decent reason is that they are for future releases and I don't intend to sell them cause I have other plans with my production. I was heartbroken after I found out this. My production are made from scratch and no samples is being used from other artist or labels, and sounds raw. Ya'll can listen give it a listen on www.reverbnation.com/axerrouf. I only posted here Randomly cause I could relate to eckmek's post. Or else, just ignore what I said and carry on guys.

How innovative is trance...

hmm... very innovative it can be with right introduction at the right times. I may call it deep trance and sounds good to me during any comedowns.

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Originally posted by AustralianGQ and for all u classic trance lovers, look at trance now in 2008 and 99 trance is making a comeback.

Not really.

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Originally posted by Axer Hey Vortex_SA What I meant that is that I figured out that someone has access to my studio and my production samples. I found out that he's been stealing it and selling it out. Reason being mad is to know that, it's being sold behind my back and I'm not making any money off it. More decent reason is that they are for future releases and I don't intend to sell them cause I have other plans with my production. I was heartbroken after I found out this. My production are made from scratch and no samples is being used from other artist or labels, and sounds raw. Ya'll can listen give it a listen on www.reverbnation.com/axerrouf. I only posted here Randomly cause I could relate to eckmek's post. Or else, just ignore what I said and carry on guys. How innovative is trance... hmm... very innovative it can be with right introduction at the right times. I may call it deep trance and sounds good to me during any comedowns.

damn man... im sorry for your loss...

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