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| Originally posted by RJT I guess it's the musicians who are capable of thriving without relying entirely on a formulaic approach to the music they make who I really think have staying power. This doesn't mean I don't have loads of cookie cutter techno and tech house in my CD book, but those don't tend to stick around for all together too long. |
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| Originally posted by RJT I don't know - I feel like I see some variation of: ...pops up pretty often throughout TA. Like a few dozen times a day.  |
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Originally posted by bas  How does hanging out with him, several times mind you, and various conversations not equate to knowing someone? |
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| Originally posted by bas Oh I agree with that, I'm talking more on the blindness. Are there more threads/posts of artists getting praise for their formulaic tracks, or more threads/posts of artists getting slammed for their formulaic tracks? I definitely see more negative than positive. |
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| Originally posted by stev�sto i mean know someone as in what they do to get their music exposed. i hung out with him too, at bed. he's a nice guy and doesn't hold too high of an opinion of himself, but that has nothing to do with how contracts are negotiated. and what you told me just explains rjt or clovis's, whoever it was, their attitude of making it a mission to prove me wrong, when there is no wrong or right its all speculation. |
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| Originally posted by Clovis woosh |
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| Originally posted by stev�sto i mean know someone as in what they do to get their music exposed. i hung out with him too, at bed. he's a nice guy and doesn't hold too high of an opinion of himself, but that has nothing to do with how contracts are negotiated. and what you told me just explains rjt or clovis's, whoever it was, their attitude of making it a mission to prove me wrong, when there is no wrong or right its all speculation. |
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| Originally posted by stev�sto just a recap, instead of a woosh: you couldve explained why or what i said was wrong or what point was missed, but rather you decide to google an image of straws and post that. but yet, when julien essentially does the same thing by saying "fail", you correct him on it. when i point that out to you, you say "woosh". is this right? |
Three reasons why Radio Slave is better than Deadmau5:
1. His name isn't "Radio 5lave."
2. He doesn't have an acccount on TA.
2. He doesn't hang out with Tommy Lee.
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| Originally posted by l�cid Three reasons why Radio Slave is better than Deadmau5: 1. His name isn't "Radio 5lave." 2. He doesn't have an acccount on TA. 2. He doesn't hang out with Tommy Lee. |
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| Originally posted by bas And I'm telling you it's not fucking speculation mate. Matt isn't some punk fuck kid that came out of the woodwork with Reason and a Yamaha keyboard his mom got him for Christmas. |
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Do you want to know what he did to get his tracks played? |
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Aside from being a resident at Ministry of Sound for years (sometime in the mid 90s I believe): he started his own record label, joined forces with Serge Santiago and started making and signing music that other djs wanted to play. |
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"Dick sucking" (I know you don't mean it in the literal sense) just isn't a factor and you're going to have to accept it. I don't really know what else to say. |
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Also, talking to him for 15 mins at B.E.D. hardly qualifies as knowing someone. |
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| Originally posted by stev�sto i didnt imply that. no and neither does anyone else in this thread. him and many others have done the same or more, not all of them receive the same level of attention though. some people are just overrated, thats all. i stand by what i say. these days it really has a lot to do with how you self promote yourself, whether or not you have had a track signed or played by so and so, how "relevant" your sound is, what services are exchanged, and less about creativity or content. you can say "oh no not matt he's such a nice guy we know him we've partied together" all you want. see above. |
It's like talking to a child 
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| Originally posted by Clovis You are thick as fucking brick wall. Absolutely no use continuing this. In any case, enjoy your stay in Assumption World. |
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| Originally posted by l�cid Three reasons why Radio Slave is better than Deadmau5: 1. His name isn't "Radio 5lave." 2. He doesn't have an acccount on TA. 2. He doesn't hang out with Tommy Lee. |
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| Originally posted by l�cid Three reasons why Radio Slave is better than Deadmau5: 1. His name isn't "Radio 5lave." |
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| Originally posted by l�cid 4. He's balding. it's gotta count for something. |
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| Originally posted by Clovis Posting a photo of straws to point out that you are clutching at them, is different than saying "fail". If you don't understand why that is, then there's no point in continuing the conversation. |
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| Originally posted by stev�sto you know, it really doesnt matter to me. almost every post from you and the gang in response to me is usually an insult with the f word. no need to get emotional. |
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| Originally posted by stev�sto how is that different? they are both easy outs. instead of actually conversing or explaining anything, a simple one word is the same as a picture, both of them are escaping an argument. |
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| Originally posted by Clovis Fucking hell. I am exiting this thread now. Rob can i get a ASCII forehead slap? |
inb4dalock.
outb4dalock
For a start, let me say I'm in the clear since I never was up Radioslave's bum.
Now that's settled, here's my take on this: I think people love to say what they want in music is originality, but that's not strictly true. What people like in music is certain elements that appeal to them in some way - and they learn over time to add new elements to the "list" of things they like. Similarly, they can also get sick to death of certain elements if they hear them too often.
There are two things that lead people to think originality in music is everything: first, when a track is appealing AND sounds fresh to them in some way, that fact magnifies the experience they get from listening to it. Second, making original music is harder than making formulatic music, therefore the producers who manage to come up with some of it have more merit.
People take these two things and rationalize them to think what they want in music is originality. In reality, they can love just as much an original track as something completely formulatic.
That's what happens with these producers - Radio Slave appeals to a lot of people here, who like looped, techy, dark music. Deadmau5 doesn't, because they're sick to death of that kind of in-your-face happy melodies, and his tracks generate a cheap feeling in their minds (that's my opinion). Most people HAVE liked this kind of music, but haven't gotten sick of the Radio Slave looped kind of thing. *Yet* - although there's a chance they might never get sick of it.
And since they like it, they think - well if I like it, I guess it must be because it's original! So they go search for every little detail in the music that sounds just slightly different to all the other 50 previous releases, and argue in music forums that those details make all the "originality". Not different from how epic trance fans will get all excited, when their fav producer uses a 32-bar melody instead of his usual 16-bar melody. Must be forward thinking!
So to summarize: I agree with RJT's general line of thought, and managed to write a shitload of words for basically nothing.
Rob: the thread has pretty much been answered. maybe it should in fact be closed.
isnt it how it happens IRL ?
haha
in fact, maybe the internets would be a better place if there was an automatic [ANSWERED] function.
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