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Originally posted by Pointy When Digweed played here in a small (300 capacity) club about 2 months ago he rocked the house. I hate strobe lights with a passion so when this lighting dickhead was turning it on n off as he pleased during his set, i wrote a Digweed a message on my phone n showed it to him saying "yo could you get that guy to lay off the strobe. Its shit, youre awesome, hope you're having fun - we are!". He read it, n wrote back "i know, he's a fucking twat". End of strobe light. Digweed's a chiller - not a rockstar you needa take photos with. Do you go see a DJ to hear music or get a snap shot with him? Cool, now get over it n enjoy.

lol that was you, good on ya. That had to be the most annoying strobe light ever is it even legal to have them that bright?

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Originally posted by RJT Are you kidding me? People who still live in this fantasy world of "OMG, if you're a big DJ, you've got an infinite amount of money and love your life every single day!" really haven't got a clue. Dealing with idiots like you in clubs night in and night out would wear even the most resilient of individuals down over time.

Yea that's fair enough and there's no doubt that there's idiots about everything. Still though, there's genuine fans there who make an effort to see the artists/DJs they love. DJs are like celebrities. They may not be Hollywood movie stars but the principle is still the same. They are publicly recognized entertainers.

No doubt the travel schedules can be insane and it gets to them but seriously, is it that hard to put aside 5-10min after a show to have a chat with the fans and take some photos? Some people enjoy that so why not share it with the fans?

As for S&D, I don't feel as sorry for them as others seem to. I'm pretty sure they make plenty of money and other stuff that acts as compensation for their busy schedule. It comes with the job sadly, just like being hounded by Paparazzi comes with being a famous actor. It's part and parcel of the job. You either come prepared for it, or you let it get to you and you burn out. There's worse positions to be in after all.

if there are 3000 fans do you know how many minutes that is? seriously man love the music, the man behind it does little or nothing, its embarassing to them that people would worship them for what they do considering anyone with any iota of drive could do the same (minus the marketing team). They aren't that skilled man, get over it and listen to good charlotte or something.

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Originally posted by emc^2 big important fucking mr. djs. piss off.

+infinity

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Originally posted by Fledz Yea that's fair enough and there's no doubt that there's idiots about everything. Still though, there's genuine fans there who make an effort to see the artists/DJs they love. DJs are like celebrities. They may not be Hollywood movie stars but the principle is still the same. They are publicly recognized entertainers. No doubt the travel schedules can be insane and it gets to them but seriously, is it that hard to put aside 5-10min after a show to have a chat with the fans and take some photos? Some people enjoy that so why not share it with the fans? As for S&D, I don't feel as sorry for them as others seem to. I'm pretty sure they make plenty of money and other stuff that acts as compensation for their busy schedule. It comes with the job sadly, just like being hounded by Paparazzi comes with being a famous actor. It's part and parcel of the job. You either come prepared for it, or you let it get to you and you burn out. There's worse positions to be in after all.

I think I agree with all of the above, but will say that I've definitely seen Sasha and John both give their fans the "time of day" - just not while they're working. I realize that spinnning records is a lot of fun for a lot of us, but it's also still a job - and for these guys, their livelihoods. I'm reminded of the old adage "I don't come to where you work and slap the dick out of your mouth", and think that kind of applies here - I really can't imagine what it would be like to have dozens of kids begging for your attention in the middle of a set.

The worst I've had to deal with so far is the leftover bitches from the bachelorette party that took place prior to the night I played with Dekay, asking me to play the instrumental version of some god-for-saken tune like "Sweet Home Alabama" so they could do karaoke from the booth.



And I imagine with 20 years on the road, stories like that are a dime a dozen for these guys. I know that for my part, I just completely shut off when someone is bothering me behind the decks - almost like a defense mechanism. So I guess I can't blame anyone else who might be doing the same.

Haha yea, no doubt there's plenty of "tear your eyes out" sort of stories

Probably not too fair to solely focus on S&D either but I needed an example.

Oh well, I guess people just see it differently. Some care, some don't. At least we can all agree that if the music is bloody brilliant, chances are you're going to have a good time regardless of how much extra sparkle the DJs can add to that

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Originally posted by elFreak if there are 3000 fans do you know how many minutes that is? seriously man love the music, the man behind it does little or nothing, its embarassing to them that people would worship them for what they do considering anyone with any iota of drive could do the same (minus the marketing team). They aren't that skilled man, get over it and listen to good charlotte or something.

Ummm....when have you ever seen all 3000 people want to have pictures taken? I highly doubt that if you take 5min after your set to be with the fans that everyone in the arena will rush to you. If by some chance they do, then either stick around for a bit and leave whenever you want, or hang around as long as you want. It's up to the DJ but can mean a lot to the fans.

Your point isn't true with a lot of big acts anyway. They aren't skilled? Who exactly produced their music then? A lot of DJs get famous because of their productions which do so much more for them than just their live performances and playing of other peoples tracks. There's something that can be appreciated about them.

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Originally posted by Fledz Your point isn't true with a lot of big acts anyway. They aren't skilled? Who exactly produced their music then?

I think he meant that they aren't very skilled as DJs, which is often the case with people who get big as DJs mainly because of their productions.

Yea fair point.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I think he meant that they aren't very skilled as DJs, which is often the case with people who get big as DJs mainly because of their productions.

First, Sasha and Diggers got big AS DJ's.

Second, to say they aren't that good after almost 20 years is pretty dense.

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Originally posted by wotyzoid First, Sasha and Diggers got big AS DJ's. Second, to say they aren't that good after almost 20 years is pretty dense.

The point was that what they're doing isn't as difficult as some people make it out to be, and that there aren't plenty of DJ's even here on TA who are every bit as "good" as (and in some cases, better than) those two are after twenty years.

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Originally posted by RJT The point was that what they're doing isn't as difficult as some people make it out to be, and that there aren't plenty of DJ's even here on TA who are every bit as "good" as (and in some cases, better than) those two are after twenty years.

Maybe now, but I've never heard anyone on TA who can mix vinyl as well as those two could back when they made their names.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Maybe now, but I've never heard anyone on TA who can mix vinyl as well as those two could back when they made their names.

The question then just becomes one of "What have you done for me lately?"

I think it is entirely possible to acknowledge someone's talent and contribution to the scene without engaging in the whole "My goodness, these lads are better than anyone else - and how dare anyone say otherwise!" discussion (and I'm certainly not accusing you of doing so).

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Originally posted by RJT The question then just becomes one of "What have you done for me lately?" I think it is entirely possible to acknowledge someone's talent and contribution to the scene without engaging in the whole "My goodness, these lads are better than anyone else - and how dare anyone say otherwise!" discussion (and I'm certainly not accusing you of doing so).

well obviously; but completely ignoring the two after all these years and saying they aren't that good just does not compute.

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Originally posted by wotyzoid well obviously; but completely ignoring the two after all these years and saying they aren't that good just does not compute.

He didn't ignore them though, just mentioned that maybe even to them the fact that so many other people can do what they do, yet people seem to worship them for doing it (the list of "worship-worthy" DJ's obviously pales in comparison to the actual # of DJ's in the world), seems a bit ridiculous.

Nothing more, nothing less.

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Originally posted by RJT The question then just becomes one of "What have you done for me lately?" I think it is entirely possible to acknowledge someone's talent and contribution to the scene without engaging in the whole "My goodness, these lads are better than anyone else - and how dare anyone say otherwise!" discussion (and I'm certainly not accusing you of doing so).

Of course. I'm not advocating DJ worship based on what they were doing 10-20 years ago, but I think it's unfair to say that either of them got to where they are by riding the back of production success or without being technically adept. It's true of a lot of DJs but not them.

Fucking geeks! Leave alexander alone.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Of course. I'm not advocating DJ worship based on what they were doing 10-20 years ago, but I think it's unfair to say that either of them got to where they are by riding the back of production success or without being technically adept. It's true of a lot of DJs but not them.

Yeah, I just don't read what Jay had to say that way I guess:

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Originally posted by elFreak seriously man love the music, the man behind it does little or nothing, its embarassing to them that people would worship them for what they do considering anyone with any iota of drive could do the same (minus the marketing team). They aren't that skilled man, get over it and listen to good charlotte or something.

I guess the comment at the end about them "not being that skilled" is probably what a lot of folks were getting at - I just took it as saying that maybe John and Sasha could themselves be embarrassed by the cult of DJ worship because they don't think it would be all that hard to do what they're doing.

who give a fuck?

Digweed is sooo old, gravity is pulling face into a frown.
That is why he does not smile.

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Originally posted by ponsshin Went to this Sasha & Digweed gig yesterday, I was psyched to finally see them play together, see the Maven with my own eyes and shit. The set was excellent (especially Digweed's part) whereas I was kinda dissapointed by Sasha's little use of the Maven during his set but the main downside was THAT THEY BOTH SHOWED A SHITTY ATTITUDE FOR 4 HOURS!!! They didn't want anyone to take a picture of them (yeah, you show yourself as a huge DJ in front of thousands of people but you don't want your picture to e taken...) They NEVER smiled or showed any compassion with the crowd. Fans (including me) were automatically dissed when approaching one of the two guys. And other things... To make a long story short, it was like this: come to the club, set up gear, play, get cash and fuck off. Why are they acting this way? Has it always been like that with them?

That's your fault for bothering him during his set. Would you like people at your job to bother you?

Both guys are super cool and down to earth, you just have to catch them in a cool, down to earth environment! Anyone who has caught either of them at a private party / industry event can attest to this.

I've chatted with Sasha both during a set - coming out of the booth to tag in Zabiela - and at a private party, and I can tell you that it's like talking to 2 different people.

You can't expect them to be your buddy in the club or on the way to their tour bus, and although they should sign autographs after gigs, sometimes with their insane schedule I guess they're just too damn tired.

They are not animated in the booth because they are technicians - not clowns like Tiesto that jump around in the booth. Their focus is on the quality of their set, not on their dance moves or facial expressions. I wouldn't have it any other way.

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Originally posted by stevebutabi That's your fault for bothering him during his set. Would you like people at your job to bother you? Both guys are super cool and down to earth, you just have to catch them in a cool, down to earth environment! Anyone who has caught either of them at a private party / industry event can attest to this.

First, he didn't bother him during his set. It was after.

And no... I ALSO got pwned by Sasha... at a private afterparty during WMC this year.

I nicely asked him for a picture when he was by himself not doing anything and before I could finish my sentence he looked at me and kept walking, leaving me standing in the middle of the room mortified.

Diggers on the other hand is SUPER nice.

And I could care less about interaction with the crowd as long as their set is on point.

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Originally posted by Fledz I can't stand DJs that look dead up in the booth. If they don't look like they are having fun, then it carries over to the crowd, but it also works the opposite way too. I LOVE DJs that are full of energy and you can see that they love what they do. It gets the crowd going and puts a smile on peoples faces. Those that do it just for the money are no good at all in terms of entertainment.

Then pay closer attention to the music.

Here in Montreal, one of the greatest DJ this town has ever had (IMO, named Mateo Murphy, is an emotionless brick in the booth, yet he has gained respect and fame through awesome music.

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Originally posted by HaeD who give a fuck?

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