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man, i'm so sick of hearing this pioneer versus xone conversation. happens ever time. might as well not even start mixer threads anymore because it always turns into this.

oh and i use a djm-700

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Originally posted by bucke man, i'm so sick of hearing this pioneer versus xone conversation. happens ever time. might as well not even start mixer threads anymore because it always turns into this. oh and i use a djm-700

so give me reasons why u use it over a 800? what makes it better for u in your opinion

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Originally posted by drEamer so give me reasons why u use it over a 800? what makes it better for u in your opinion

no specific reason really, although the fx filter is pretty neat. but i'll tell you why i'd use it over a xone, i just like the layout and comfort of pioneer mixers better.

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Originally posted by bucke no specific reason really, although the fx filter is pretty neat. but i'll tell you why i'd use it over a xone, i just like the layout and comfort of pioneer mixers better.

good enough....thanks!! im still playing with the 700 so we will see how it goes.....i actually love the 800....

so i got my alesis philtre today (btw, i have a djm-700)...got to plug it in and mess around with it for a bit...trying to get the levels right so i wont get huge volume differences.

i must say...for a tiny bit of kit...its amazing. i can really see the point of xone users and their obsessions with the filter, granted my little unit is a digital filter. anyways...there are so many different parameters to screw around with, it'll probably take me a good while to really get this thing down.

i really suggest the alesis philtre if you can get it if you want some crazy filters and crazy controls for it. just messing around with this thing for about 30 minutes makes me almost want to get a xone mixer. i knew i shouldve bought the xone:62. lol. i want my hands at some real analog filters now.

anyways...this is a great upgrade for my djm-7/800, or almost any mixer for that matter of fact.

Give me the same 10 tracks mixed twice, once on an 800, once on a 92. 99.9% of listeners couldn't tell the difference, myself included. Especially on big club systems.

Guys like cmay will mix with the best of them, on a DJM400, or my buddy Mike who spins amazing music on a shit Numark dual-CD setup.

IMO, it's preference.

One reason I'd lean away from the 800 is that they're everywhere... it's almost too logical a decision. Don't buy one to fit in.

Buying a mixer is like buying an exotic car. They all have the bells and whistles, they're all fucking fast, they'll all give you a hard on in minutes... it comes down to feel. We're talking about hyper-competitive markets here, cars or mixers, there's tons of great options out there.

allen and heath do have the filter available for purchase by itself too for those that want the analogue filter

http://www.xone.co.uk/vf1/

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Originally posted by Tony Morello allen and heath do have the filter available for purchase by itself too for those that want the analogue filter http://www.xone.co.uk/vf1/

i was looking at that when i used to have a 19" mixer with a coffin so i could throw it in there. after i got rid of the mixer...didnt really want to get a rack kit for my mixer. however if a&h made a filter unit the size of the alesis philtre, or something along those lines...i would snatch it up in a heart beat

all these extra filters that you guys are talking about... i'm assuming you'd need something like a send/return on your mixer? (i have a djm400, so i'm guessing all these things are useless for me?)

not necessarily...you do have the option of routing an external fx processor through your master. only drawback is you can't direct the fx to a specific channel

so i could do say master out on the djm to the efx processor in's, and the efx processor's outs to the monitors?

Yes you can!!!

Then you'll only be able to filter the master. Not really useful.

A testament to the build quality of the DJM-800



pretty funny. nevertheless, both mixers are great and it really depends on what YOU, personally, need.

- just for clarification purposes: the picture depicts a broken headphone jack on the djm-800. I guess he was pulling his headphones out and along with it, came the entire jack (chip included).

is that tommy lee on the left?

Yes. Along with Deadmau5, and I believe the guy to the right of him is DJ Aero. I don't know who the dude on the far right is though.

That picture makes me lol. The similarities to it and cave men discovering fire is remarkable.

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Originally posted by RJT That makes perfect sense - bad taste in music, bad taste in gear. I suppose for Unicorn trance or McProg, a DJM 800 is a DJ's wet dream - it's a bare bones mixer with wretched sound quality (that oddly makes the music sound better) and horrible EQ curves, BUT with the simple turn of a knob even the most tone-deaf of DJ's can avoid key clashes for those random 16 notes where you might have misphrased a bassline and have competing frequencies. And let's not forget that flanger - the only effect that will ever be used on countless 800's the world over. What would trance be without that flange?!? For everyone else, however, there are plenty of better choices - and certainly not just Allen & Heath choices. I just don't see how an educated consumer or DJ can prefer a DJM 800 to the literally dozens of better options out there. Oh wait, it's got loads of pretty lights too. Nevermind. DJM 800 OR BUST, MANG! 4 LAIFE! EDIT: FLANGING FOREVER! NEVER FORGET!

I use the envelopes all the time. I also use echo and delay a lot. The effects are actually quite practical

that isn't deadmau5

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Originally posted by MACBOOK69 that isn't deadmau5

the second guy from the left is deadmau5.

That photo is a great example of muppets using DJM-800s

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Originally posted by Clovis That photo is a great example of muppets using DJM-800s

Haha, cheap shot dude. Not gonna even waste time arguing about that.

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