Congratulations, Bush - FISA Christmas came early, thanks to the spineless Dems

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Posted by LatinLover on Jun-26-2008 03:02:

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov

Ah yes, because we should only worry about preserving the Constitution's ability to cover our own asses.

you should be the last person in this world talking about the constitution.... you want to defend it? Why dont you sign up in the military and go defend our nation and our constitution? why dont you go fight for us? its easy to talk about defending and preserving it

Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-26-2008 03:16:

Posted by Krypton on Jun-26-2008 04:12:

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You all can wine about Mccain, i could careless. I mean krypton makes me laugh. his major concern is that all these thugs are being tortured in guantanamo. buddy if you dont have any friends or familiy memebers locked up there you shouldnt worry

Thugs huh? Most of the people in Guantanamo Bay don't even belong there... Shows how much you really know about your beloved Guantanamo Bay prison. Really doesn't surprise me you would support torturing people to death. And yet you claim to be against oppression? Except when we're doing the torture? Never mind the fact we have documented evidence of innocent people being tortured. But I guess that means nothing to you in your blind devotion to the Bush Doctrine. Oh, and the so-called "evidence" for Iraqi WMDs came from detainees under torture, who would say anything just to make the pain stop. Your hypocrisy, idiocy, and ignorance of reality makes me laugh...hysterically...

Posted by Krypton on Jun-26-2008 04:15:

Posted by hardcore trancer on Jun-26-2008 04:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
LOL...and YOU? For all the bullshit you come up with, you should be in Iraq RIGHT NOW...

Yeah how unAmerican of him not to be fighting in Iraq!!! I guess Latin doesnt care about his freedom in America.

Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jun-26-2008 12:31:

quote:
Originally posted by LatinLover
you should be the last person in this world talking about the constitution.... you want to defend it? Why dont you sign up in the military and go defend our nation and our constitution? why dont you go fight for us? its easy to talk about defending and preserving it

Haha, how predictable. There are a lot of ways to defend the Constitution, and I'm pretty comfortable that I'm aiding that effort both in my career and my studies. Since you obviously know nothing of either, kindly shut up. One thing I wouldn't count among them is fighting an unconstitutional war against a domestic population that poses no real security risk to the United States. And before you go ballistic about al-Qaeda being a demonstrable threat to the US, know that I'm talking about Iraq.

Anyhow, what are you doing? Still teaching statistics to third graders?

Posted by LatinLover on Jun-26-2008 15:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Haha, how predictable. There are a lot of ways to defend the Constitution, and I'm pretty comfortable that I'm aiding that effort both in my career and my studies. Since you obviously know nothing of either, kindly shut up. One thing I wouldn't count among them is fighting an unconstitutional war against a domestic population that poses no real security risk to the United States. And before you go ballistic about al-Qaeda being a demonstrable threat to the US, know that I'm talking about Iraq.

Anyhow, what are you doing? Still teaching statistics to third graders?

that proves to you that you dont know anything about the constitution. where the hell in the constitution does it say that if our president wages a war ( with approval from congress) and if its unpopular among americans its a violation to the constitution? buddy i think you are reading the constitution upside down...

let me give you a history lesson. okay from your point lebez a war has to be popular for it to be justifiable? I mean lets analyze hitler... his genocide was popular among germans, hitler did all he did with the consent of the germans right... does that me its justifiable what he did? i dont get your logic.

Posted by Clovis on Jun-26-2008 18:34:

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Originally posted by LatinLover
btw Clovis main concern is that Mccain hugged bush Omg i must guess now that Mccain is a real bad man now. has no morale. how can mccain hug evil bush omg Armageddon is coming

BUT when his candidate wants to meet with chavez, castro and all the foreign dictators without pre conditioning; clovis dosent wine about it. oh thats right is that in clovis world bush is evil and all the foreign dictators are angels.

Wow way to miss the fucking sarcasm. Also, jesus christ man where did you learn to write English?

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buddy if you dont have any friends or familiy memebers locked up there you shouldnt worry

Your principles are clearly completely contrary to those that make this country great. What else is there to say.

Posted by Clovis on Jun-26-2008 18:36:

quote:
Originally posted by LatinLover
let me give you a history lesson. okay from your point lebez a war has to be popular for it to be justifiable? I mean lets analyze hitler... his genocide was popular among germans, hitler did all he did with the consent of the germans right... does that me its justifiable what he did? i dont get your logic.

Where the fuck is the history lesson? Hey lets analyze Hitler in 2 sentences, way to read between the lines and get to the bottom of things! Fuck dude, you do a fantastic job of ridiculing yourself.

Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jun-26-2008 21:24:

quote:
Originally posted by LatinLover
that proves to you that you dont know anything about the constitution. where the hell in the constitution does it say that if our president wages a war ( with approval from congress) and if its unpopular among americans its a violation to the constitution? buddy i think you are reading the constitution upside down...

Bolded for easy comprehension.

Posted by LatinLover on Jun-26-2008 22:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Bolded for easy comprehension.

congress approved the war.... whats your point?

I'm not even going to waste my time with Clovis... every time i respond to him my intelligence diminishes

Posted by Clovis on Jun-26-2008 22:19:

quote:
Originally posted by LatinLover
I'm not even going to waste my time with Clovis... every time i respond to him my intelligence diminishes

Yeah, we're all witness to it.

Posted by LatinLover on Jun-26-2008 22:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Yeah, we're all witness to it.

Clovis, you know sometimes I ask myself if you feel special every time i respond to you?

Posted by DJ Sarah H on Jun-26-2008 23:27:

LatinLover is now suspended - reason - lack of coherent substance to his posts in this forum.

Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-26-2008 23:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Wicked Neo
LatinLover is now suspended - reason - lack of coherent substance to his posts in this forum.

we love you!

Posted by Krypton on Jun-26-2008 23:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Wicked Neo
LatinLover is now suspended - reason - lack of coherent substance to his posts in this forum.

HAHA!

Everytime latinlover/arnoldj came on here, anyone notice how everyone stopped debating each other to focus on putting down his rhetoric? Now we can focus on real arguments...

Posted by MisterOpus1 on Jun-27-2008 05:10:

Takin' a break from my studyin' "sabbatical" to see just how derailed this thread was becoming thanks entirely to Latin.

By my count that's 4 times this person has been suspended or banned. Good grief.

Posted by Krypton on Jun-27-2008 05:19:

quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Takin' a break from my studyin' "sabbatical" to see just how derailed this thread was becoming thanks entirely to Latin.

By my count that's 4 times this person has been suspended or banned. Good grief.

More if you count the fact that Latinlover is an alt for Arnoldj...

Posted by Arbiter on Jun-30-2008 07:14:

I don't know about "spineless," maybe they're just corrupt:

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/20...om-amnesty.html

Posted by mndeg on Jun-30-2008 23:10:

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Originally posted by Arbiter
I don't know about "spineless," maybe they're just corrupt:

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/20...om-amnesty.html

wtf, what happened to public financing of campaigns?

Posted by The17sss on Jul-01-2008 06:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Most of the people in Guantanamo Bay don't even belong there...

All I know is THIS motherf*cker should still be in there

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archi..._guantanamo.php

Posted by Clovis on Jul-01-2008 21:12:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
All I know is THIS motherf*cker should still be in there

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archi..._guantanamo.php

Proof of how much of an absolute failure the current system is.

Posted by The17sss on Jul-02-2008 04:03:

I'll say

Posted by Krypton on Jul-02-2008 16:01:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
All I know is THIS motherf*cker should still be in there

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archi..._guantanamo.php

Maybe so. But torturing people sure isn't going to make friends out of anyone.

Posted by Clovis on Jul-02-2008 18:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Maybe so. But torturing people sure isn't going to make friends out of anyone.

Its probably largely why these guys have returned to battle.

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