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exactly what tiesto14 said....
this happend in NON-WAR America....u guys will never know how it felt when i walked out of my college class and i looked down the block and i see a sky of volcanic inferno in NYC? you'll never know.
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| Originally posted by verminator 1. do you think it was cool for me/other ppl from yugoslavia and etc, when the US bombed yugoslavia for no reason some years back? =/ 2. do you think it was cool for me last year when there were albanian rebels in macedonia, which were supplied with weapons and shit from the US...? =/ greetz |
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| Originally posted by nyczliquid u guys will never know how it felt when i walked out of my college class and i looked down the block and i see a sky of volcanic inferno in NYC? you'll never know. |
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| Originally posted by tiesto14 scared the shit out of me too... i was on South Broadway and Canal when it happened walking to my brothers office...... i didnt see the first plane (which my friend was in who lived in Boston) but i heard the 2nd plane then the boom...me and this girl i was with , who was walking with me, didnt know what the hell was going on... right after it happened we walked Canal to the West Side Highway and could see the burning towers....bro my stomach sank...i wanted to cry...i thought the world was coming to an end...we started walking down the West Side highway but we stopped and jus watched... then out of NOWHERE that tower jus collapsed...the girl i was with broke down in tears and began to have an anxiety attack...i just hugged her and couldnt beleive what i was seeing.... after the 1st tower collapsed we started walking uptown because we wanted to get out of the city...but it was packed on the West Side and we couldnt get a cab...so we jus walked all the way up to 46th Street near the Sound Factory and just chilled out for awhile... i will never forget that day.... |
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| Originally posted by nyczliquid damn, that is much closer than where i was ....i was on baruch on lexington and 23rd and it was clearly visible... god bless your passed friends. |
Well it was bad enough watching it on the tv. it didnt seem real, every time i hear anything about it, the tv footage runs through my head again. I hope i never see something like that again. It really was the worst thing i have ever seen, and something that will never leave me. It effect everyone in the world.
I remeber this as i was in work and people kept coming into the shop saying what had happened, my response was yeah rite thats im posible, untill i turned the shops cd player to the radio.
Verminator was right, the Amercian Government did supply the Albanians,and they did bomb yugoslavia (something the UK was also a part of, and something which I feel deeply sorry about),they also supply the Israeli army with weapons and the means in which to deliver them, but many euorpean countries supply unjust causes with arms, so it's unfair to single out america.
Sept 11th was a terrible day, and I will never forget it, watching the images on television was one of the most harrowing experiences of my life, and I cannot begin to imagine what it was like to be anywhere near it.
What Ste said was silly, but I can assure you he meant no disrespect for the people who lost there lives, or the familys of people who lost loved ones.
anyway back to the topic at hand, there seems to be a fair few Sarah Mclachlan tunes on AG which have wtc implications, 'angel' is one that springs to mind, heavenly
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| Originally posted by tranceDJ I don't think so...and why do you have a laughing smiley in your post? Even if 'in my memory' had something to do with 9/11, why would it be funny? |
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| Originally posted by Project T 4. It is good that tracks are made to commerate these events, but to be wanting music that was for influenced by 9/11 is sick. |
Now that's f***ed up!
Think my dad wrote a song about Sept 11th, but it was shit 
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| Originally posted by IronDragon Hmmm..I haven't heard any sort of dance music about 9-11 (though it would/would've been nice to have a sort of tribute song) but there are a number of songs such as that one Alan Jackon song (the name escapes me now) about that tragic event. |
Josef Plante�s remix of Freakforce�s "Drop Tha Bomb," where in Dubya�s "I can hear you" statement at Ground Zero is repeated over a trance-laden break.
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| Originally posted by DJ NEILSON why the fuck would anyone want a tribute song? that inccident wants to be forgotten, not remind everyone how there families died everytime the ****** comes on the radio, which be quite alot as it would obviously go to no.1 in US stupid idea |
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| Originally posted by DJ NEILSON why the fuck would anyone want a tribute song? that inccident wants to be forgotten, not remind everyone how there families died everytime the ****** comes on the radio, which be quite alot as it would obviously go to no.1 in US stupid idea |
Please close this thread.......
I also agree about songs about what happened is stupid. I don't even wanna think about what happened that day, nevermind hear songs about it, or anything that would remind me of it.
I actually got very offended, mad, etc when I read some of the things people said. I dunno why people would even make fun about what happened, that's not cool. What if mad people in your town/city/country died, then someone from another country makes fun of it. Please put yourself in other people's shoes before you make fun, you guys really hurt my feelings. Now I could say shit about all those people that said those things, but I have class, and I'm not gonna be that low.
Peace and respects.
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| Originally posted by verminator 1. do you think it was cool for me/other ppl from yugoslavia and etc, when the US bombed yugoslavia for no reason some years back? =/ |
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| Originally posted by Tranzlucent Agreed. There is plenty of emotional musik out there. I think Paul van Dyk showed everybody with his melancholy set days after the tragedy. It would make me sick to hear Bush's voice over a track. If I wanted to hear a sample of a puppet, I would listen to the Muppets. |
I stumbled across this thread searching for a track, and it's an interesting one.
I can't really see the whole appeal of masses of tribute songs, it's a bit pretentious if I may say so. To specifically designate a song to an event, a twisted and horrible event, is not a chivalrous thing to do in my opinion. If they truly meant it, they'd give all the money to charity perhaps? Afterall, it isn't really a 'donation' or a 'tribute' when you're making hard cash from it is it?
The constant reminders of September 11 are not something we have to do, they are political. The Bush administration actually specifically asked CNN to mention the September 11 attack after every report on it's war on terrorism. They are using the WTC attacks to rile up the American public, to get the public behind his war on terrorism. Bush is being written a blank cheque, to do whatever he wants, and he is loving it, espescially all the tribute songs and what-not.
I downloaded a track the other day called "Vanox & Scandle - Prime Suspect" and I almost puked. Come on this is just making money off the back of a tragedy, it's not even original. I even hear they are making a movie about September 11 - this soon after the attack! I can just see the script writers in Hollywood counting the dollars.
Anyway, others might disagree, but I find the whole concept a bit odd. I don't quite agree with it.
One more thing. Observe the following statements, I'll let you draw your own conclusions, but personally I find some of these a little disturbing...
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| your statement was heart-less and plain rude to American TAs..... |
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| I dunno why people would even make fun about what happened, that's not cool. What if mad people in your town/city/country died, then someone from another country makes fun of it. |
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| well u gota remember the americans saved most of your continent during world war 2 |
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| If the US hadn't entered WW2, there's a good arguement that England wouldn't have been able to withstand Germany. |
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9.11 is a VERY emotional subject for Americans |
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| The US was attacked and we reserve the right to defend ourselves when attacked |
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| WELL he didnt demonstarte hear deliberatley making fun of 9.11.... He blatantly showed ZERO respect for American TAs as a whole |
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| All of you Europeans claim to be "pacifists." You all have your "peace-love-unity-respect" (PLUR) slogans splashed everywhere |
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| when did we bomb Yuogoslavia?...i really dont know |
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| i dont EVER hearing anything about the U.S. supplying Albanians with weapons... |
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| If you were such a patriotic Macedonian you could have stayed in your Macedonia. However, you moved to Norway. |
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| Originally posted by evil_bastard I stumbled across this thread searching for a track, and it's an interesting one. I can't really see the whole appeal of masses of tribute songs, it's a bit pretentious if I may say so. To specifically designate a song to an event, a twisted and horrible event, is not a chivalrous thing to do in my opinion. If they truly meant it, they'd give all the money to charity perhaps? Afterall, it isn't really a 'donation' or a 'tribute' when you're making hard cash from it is it? The constant reminders of September 11 are not something we have to do, they are political. The Bush administration actually specifically asked CNN to mention the September 11 attack after every report on it's war on terrorism. They are using the WTC attacks to rile up the American public, to get the public behind his war on terrorism. Bush is being written a blank cheque, to do whatever he wants, and he is loving it, espescially all the tribute songs and what-not. I downloaded a track the other day called "Vanox & Scandle - Prime Suspect" and I almost puked. Come on this is just making money off the back of a tragedy, it's not even original. I even hear they are making a movie about September 11 - this soon after the attack! I can just see the script writers in Hollywood counting the dollars. Anyway, others might disagree, but I find the whole concept a bit odd. I don't quite agree with it. One more thing. Observe the following statements, I'll let you draw your own conclusions, but personally I find some of these a little disturbing... E_B |
I chose them fairly randomly, not really in the mood to meticulously trawl the thread.
I think you should be careful when you say things like "it was a tragedy for Americans" and "he showed zero respect for American TAs". As you will know, NYC is renowned for being a multicultural city. People from many nations died in the attacks. I can understand your anger, I can't say I know how you feel, but please remember that in those statements, it would certainly seem arrogant, ignorant, and even offensive to a foreigner who lost a loved one, who might read that. If you know how that feels, then why risk giving that feeling to someone else?
The statements about albania, yugoslavia, macedonia, and this whole talk about " the europeans" is disturbing because people should really know about this stuff. There are near 50 countries in Europe, with different languages, cultures, practices, regimes, with hundreds of millions of people. Generalising about Europe is just as bad as generalising about how "Americans" feel. There is no single American viewpoint, 300 million people do not have the same view.
The comments about WW2 are disturbing because they show an ignorance, but not just that, it is boasting about things which aren't true. Britain was on it's last legs. Some American historians would like to preach all this sword of freedom and heart of liberty nonsense, but there is a simple fact, for 2 years Britain faced invasion, our capital and entire eastern coast was being pounded by the Luftwaffe, and the US sat by and watched us get destroyed. Whose to say the US would ever have helped Britain if it weren't for Pearl harbour? Unlikely. The US would probably have let Britain, a good friend and valuable trading link, get destroyed. This sword of freedom stuff feels very weak when the US virtually let Britain get demolished. In the battle of britain, we won a seriously ill equipped and outnumbered airiel battle for our lives, a whole year before the US got involved. Who was their to "save our ass"? Secondly, American help came at a MASSIVE cost, and most of that has been paid back in various forms (UK mainland airbases outside the destroyer-airbase deal, billions in reverse lend-lease, 50 years of annual repayments), our govt was still paying the US govt in the 1990s, yet British help over Kosovo, Iraq etc is supposed to be free?
If the US is the great saviour of freedom, why did it sit around while the last bastions of democracy in Europe were being pounded by Nazi bombers?
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| Originally posted by evil_bastard I chose them fairly randomly, not really in the mood to meticulously trawl the thread. I think you should be careful when you say things like "it was a tragedy for Americans" and "he showed zero respect for American TAs". As you will know, NYC is renowned for being a multicultural city. People from many nations died in the attacks. I can understand your anger, I can't say I know how you feel, but please remember that in those statements, it would certainly seem arrogant, ignorant, and even offensive to a foreigner who lost a loved one, who might read that. If you know how that feels, then why risk giving that feeling to someone else? The statements about albania, yugoslavia, macedonia, and this whole talk about " the europeans" is disturbing because people should really know about this stuff. There are near 50 countries in Europe, with different languages, cultures, practices, regimes, with hundreds of millions of people. Generalising about Europe is just as bad as generalising about how "Americans" feel. There is no single American viewpoint, 300 million people do not have the same view. The comments about WW2 are disturbing because they show an ignorance, but not just that, it is boasting about things which aren't true. Britain was on it's last legs. Some American historians would like to preach all this sword of freedom and heart of liberty nonsense, but there is a simple fact, for 2 years Britain faced invasion, our capital and entire eastern coast was being pounded by the Luftwaffe, and the US sat by and watched us get destroyed. Whose to say the US would ever have helped Britain if it weren't for Pearl harbour? Unlikely. The US would probably have let Britain get destroyed. This sword of freedom stuff feels very weak when the US virtually let Britain get demolished. In the battle of britain, we won a seriously ill equipped and outnumbered airiel battle for our lives, a whole year before the US got involved. Who was their to "save our ass"? Secondly, American help came at a MASSIVE cost, and most of that has been paid back in various forms, our govt was still paying the US govt in the 1990s, yet British help over Kosovo, Iraq etc is supposed to be free? |
Thanks for a level headed response, I can see it is a topic close to your heart, but if you want others to be delicate about how they phrase things, you must do the same.
There have been quite a few rash things said in this thread, but the original topic is quite interesting.
Does anyone know if these trance tunes are for charity, or are the artists making profit from their 'tributes'?
why can't the average, lame, non involved, non willing to think and learn person on this thread just shut up IN RESPECT OF THE DEAD!
I knew people who died because of this and it's not a laughing matter.
My sister was also supposed to be there but she ran late on schedule thank God!
and last saturday she got married .... wouldn't have wanted to be separated from her for nothing, and it seems as if some people on here think the USAs suffering was justified let alone the destruction of it's future!
Screw all of your lame non compassionate people!
I am american and french, I don't take sides, and don't support 100% the USAs actions so don't start flaming me under the pretext I am american or that would be the cruelest and most heartless behavior as can be !
GET BACK TO THE FREAKING SUBJECT!
Paul van Dyk - Soundgarden 13-09-2001 , anyone got it? COME ON ! CAN SOMEONE ANSWER THE QUESTION AND COME BACK ON TRACK CONCERNING WHAT THIS THREAD WAS ABOUT
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