Global warming and evolution: here's a discussion point.

TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Chill Out Room
-- Global warming and evolution: here's a discussion point.
Pages (6): « 1 2 3 4 [5] 6 »

Posted by Clovis on Jul-16-2008 23:51:

quote:
Originally posted by adi_hanson
come on

What?

Posted by idoru on Jul-16-2008 23:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
What?

Don't bother with him anymore, man. Waste of time.

Posted by gehzumteufel on Jul-16-2008 23:56:

Posted by Ang ' ela_ie on Jul-16-2008 23:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Yes, but because of the astronomical levels of CO2 in the atmosphere it has been absorbing far more than usual, which is changing the PH of the oceans and having disastrous effects.

Heres an abstract of the article, couldn't find the full piece.

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/20...fa_fact_kolbert

Okay... but the rising temperature alone is a big enough problem in itself. Also, as the oceans get warmer, theyre going to start absorbing less co2. The solubility of co2 in water decreases as temperature increases. There's a lot of assumptions made in that statement, which I understand, but all in all my point is that the oceans are not well understood. At least not as well as the atmosphere. We honestly dont know how the marine system is going to respond to this kind of carbon concentration.

Posted by adi_hanson on Jul-16-2008 23:56:

yeah leave me alone , give it 5 years ago and we would be arguing over how a meteorite would kill us all

ill see you at the next doomsday fad

Posted by nefardec on Jul-17-2008 00:00:

quote:
Originally posted by adi_hanson
yeah leave me alone , give it 5 years ago and we would be arguing over how a meteorite would kill us all

ill see you at the next doomsday fad

must be nice in your bubble

Posted by Clovis on Jul-17-2008 00:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie
Okay... but the rising temperature alone is a big enough problem in itself. Also, as the oceans get warmer, theyre going to start absorbing less co2. The solubility of co2 in water decreases as temperature increases. There's a lot of assumptions made in that statement, which I understand, but all in all my point is that the oceans are not well understood. At least not as well as the atmosphere. We honestly dont know how the marine system is going to respond to this kind of carbon concentration.

Read the article, it is quite good. And we don't want the oceans getting warmer or absorbing more CO2.

Posted by Clovis on Jul-17-2008 00:02:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
must be nice in your bubble

The best part is I never once in this debate argued any kind of doomsday fad. I'm not even concerned about global warming. I'm concerned about protecting the environment, conservation, reducing waste and reducing pollution.

Posted by idoru on Jul-17-2008 00:05:

Posted by Lira on Jul-17-2008 00:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Read the article, it is quite good. And we don't want the oceans getting warmer or absorbing more CO2.

Of course we do! It will humanity's very own giant jacuzzi with free sushi!

Posted by adi_hanson on Jul-17-2008 00:05:

Posted by idoru on Jul-17-2008 00:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Of course we do! It will humanity's very own giant jacuzzi with free sushi!

Sweet! Will there be sake as well?

Posted by Clovis on Jul-17-2008 00:06:

quote:
Originally posted by adi_hanson
well why didnt you say so ! i am too , i recycle , i have a low emission car ,but i dislike global warming as a excuse for money dealing and an excuse to charge me more fuckin money for nothing

Then you would understand that action in favor of climate change is good for everything I listed.

Posted by nefardec on Jul-17-2008 00:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
The best part is I never once in this debate argued any kind of doomsday fad. I'm not even concerned about global warming. I'm concerned about protecting the environment, conservation, reducing waste and reducing pollution.

most people have no idea what conservation is

it's worse in architecture. rather than come up with a sustainable development strategy or the creative reuse of an existing building, institutions like universities and corporations go to ridiculous lengths to build absurd 'green buildings' which are the architectural equivalent of hollywood sfx movies, except instead of trying to hit box office numbers, they try to rack of LEED points so they can put a little trophy on their secretaries' desks and color their annual report forest green.

they're concerned about the emissions of their building but don't even think about all the human and natural energy wasted in the construction of the building, the manufacture and collection of materials, etc

Posted by Lira on Jul-17-2008 00:08:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
Sweet! Will there be sake as well?

It depends on how many people will be chilling in the jacuzzi... is this sake you speak of yellow and with a citric after taste?

Posted by adi_hanson on Jul-17-2008 00:09:

cleaning up your act and being more aware of your actions is much different than saying going to the supermarket in your car will kill 100 penguins and you better pay us money to stop it

Posted by idoru on Jul-17-2008 00:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
It depends on how many people will be chilling in the jacuzzi... is this sake you speak of yellow and with a citric after taste?

Man, I'll pass on the jacuzzi + piss sake, then. You kids have your fun.

Posted by Lira on Jul-17-2008 00:13:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
Man, I'll pass on the jacuzzi + piss sake, then. You kids have your fun.

No, I'm not getting in there! I'm doing it for the kids in Africa, they always look so sad and bored

Posted by idoru on Jul-17-2008 00:14:

Posted by Gen3r4l1ty on Jul-17-2008 00:35:

quote:
Originally posted by adi_hanson
...saying going to the supermarket in your car will kill 100 penguins and you better pay us money to stop it

If this is what people are telling you, you need to stop watching FOX news.

Posted by eRRaTiK on Jul-17-2008 01:14:

quote:
Originally posted by adi_hanson
3) Believes it is a good thing to throw billions upon billions of dollars at an idea that may or may not work to stop climate change, "just in case."

sounds like global warmists are simply scientologists with a different cause.

respekt for da altitude!

Posted by Moral Hazard on Jul-17-2008 12:00:

quote:
Originally posted by adi_hanson
ok then , i think we should all go back to global cooling as in the late 70's

You do realized that the "global cooling" idea of the 70s was only ever put foward by one person in one book, which was then completely debunked, right?

Posted by adi_hanson on Jul-17-2008 13:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
You do realized that the "global cooling" idea of the 70s was only ever put foward by one person in one book, which was then completely debunked, right?

I didnt go in that deep , but it was followed by global dimming aswell

p.s i had a lot to drink last night and re-read this thread

i but i still stand saying the whole thing is wrong and the real problems like , conservation ,running low on fuel etc etc are being overshadowed by a force fed story of global warming, which i noticed more people call it climate change now as many places are not warming at all, certainly where im standing its not!

Posted by d-miurge on Jul-17-2008 13:18:

quote:
Originally posted by adi_hanson

i but i still stand saying the whole thing is wrong and the real problems like , conservation ,running low on fuel etc etc are being overshadowed by a force fed story of global warming, which i noticed more people call it climate change now as many places are not warming at all, certainly where im standing its not!

********, please log out.

Posted by PETRAN on Jul-17-2008 13:20:

WTF, de the guy from the original article just said that intelligence and heat are reversely related!?

Pages (6): « 1 2 3 4 [5] 6 »