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That one guy was in the military though.. in a unit.. you figure he would know how to disable the small asian dude. Im sure if yohan was there he would have fixed the situation proper
What's next... another foot washes up on Lake Huron???
Oh god, the article in the globe today was brutal. A mother behind the whole scene in the bus had to throw her baby to someone ahead, so she wouldn't have to take her baby past the man in the aisle.
I can't even imagine what it's like to be in that situation - it's shameful that people can cast judgement on how other passengers acted.
Greyhound did an excellent job of handling all of this - props to them. Many companies don't have a plan on how to act when a crisis happens.
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| Originally posted by Time2Burn ^^ agreed. I had the same thought myself: "man if I were there I would have saved that guy's life by smashing that guys face in". The reality is I would have been scared shitless. And when we are faced with instinctual emotions like fear we act instinctualy and FLEE. Really it's not about knowing what to do in this situation its about getting the heck out and making sure you and everyone else is safe. And let us not worry the madman will get his the second he is put in with the general population in prison. Hopefully the courts don't pull a "Canada" and deem him insane or give him Bernardo like isolation. |
Nice chop. LOL
The fucked thing about this is the fact that there going to charge him for second degree murder due to the fact it was comletely random.
correct me if i am wrong but second degree is a period of 10 - 25 years maximum. Obviously he will get the full period, but still...
that makes him 65 or so when he gets out
Hopefully someone will murder him right away.
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| Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit That one guy was in the military though.. in a unit.. you figure he would know how to disable the small asian dude. Im sure if yohan was there he would have fixed the situation proper |
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| Originally posted by Invasionmix Small Asian dude? The guy was described as about 6 feet and around 200 lbs with a hunting knife. Even if the guy was in the military he had no weapons to defend himself, and again he probably never had to use his CQC in real life situations. Especially a guy who's messed up in the head that would attack someone random and so calmly. Basic instinct would dictate that you get your ass out of there. |
My Dad just told me about this ( i was away all week ) ... this is something out of a movie it's so crazy its beyond words, i didn't get a chance to read everything was there a motive ???
Imagine if he gets away with "insanity" and get released early when he's all "better"??
Fucked up criminal jurisdictions we have here in canada.
Cut his fucking head off its what he deserves.
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| Originally posted by PurpleHaze Cut his fucking head off its what he deserves. |
The police radio transmissions posted on the star website today are 
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| Originally posted by Skipper Greyhound did an excellent job of handling all of this - props to them. Many companies don't have a plan on how to act when a crisis happens. |
Too soon.
AN ETHICIST'S TAKE
Don't fault Greyhound passengers for fleeing
Aug 02, 2008 04:30 AM
Ken Gallinger
Special to the Star
Reading about events on that Greyhound Bus in Manitoba is enough to make an ordinary person sick. So it's impossible to get inside the minds of passengers awakened by a sound more horrible than anything they had ever heard. We're told they bolted to the door, in one case tossing a toddler out of harm's way, in another almost running over a terrified senior in haste.
Everyone who has ever ridden a bus will ask themselves, "What would I have done? Would I have tried to stop the killer?"
Answering requires the ability to weigh the risks and benefits associated with intervening. That's easy enough in your living room on a Saturday morning, but this event occurred in the dead of night, with no warning whatsoever.
To expect ordinary people, under those circumstances, to be capable of calmly weighing the risks and benefits is to ask the impossible.
Even allowing for that, passengers made the right decision.
On the "benefit" side of the equation, media reports contend that by the time passengers knew what had happened, the victim had been stabbed several times, and there was blood spurting all over the bus.
He was well beyond saving and nothing could have been gained by rushing the attacker other than securing him for arrest � a feat that was accomplished by exiting and sealing the bus.
Which leads to the "risk" side of the equation.
Even in their stunned state, it was immediately obvious to other passengers that the attacker appeared not in a normal state of mind. Garnet Caton, a passenger close to the attack, reports:"He looked totally calm. "
Anyone standing in a fountain of blood, repeatedly thrusting a knife into someone's throat, and being totally calm while doing so, is not sane. Calm, reasoned intervention with one so deranged was going to have no effect. The only possible intervention would have been physical, leading undoubtedly to more pathos, more death.
Faced with almost no possibility of doing any real good, scared out of their minds, Greyhound passengers on a dark road outside the sleepy city of Brandon did exactly the right thing.
As a result, only one man died, and his life was not within their power to save. Thanks to their actions, the attacker is in jail.
They did what they could.
No one should expect more of anyone, even themselves, than that.
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| Originally posted by ChemEnhanced +1 many companies would have lost their heads over an incident like this |
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| Originally posted by DaRoZa seems like you can't even take public transport without someone losing their head over something trivial.. |
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| Originally posted by PurpleHaze Imagine if he gets away with "insanity" and get released early when he's all "better"?? Fucked up criminal jurisdictions we have here in canada. |
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| Cut his fucking head off its what he deserves. |
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| Originally posted by sticky_shoes totally agree...i mean...how many more henious acts like these will have to happen in order for our government to open their eyes...yeah, excuse my language but this is fucking bullshit... well if that's the case...it better be done slowly... personally (if we had capital punishment)...i vote the chair or gas chamber for this ******... oh well, probably someone in prison will do the right thing... |
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| Originally posted by dartrance The fucked thing about this is the fact that there going to charge him for second degree murder due to the fact it was comletely random. correct me if i am wrong but second degree is a period of 10 - 25 years maximum. Obviously he will get the full period, but still... that makes him 65 or so when he gets out Hopefully someone will murder him right away. |
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| Originally posted by VDub Why would someone in prison do the right thing... Prison is full of murderers and rapists... This jackoff is just one of them... As sad as it is that it happened, Tim was an adult... And as far as I know, you have to do something to a child before other prisoners will want to hurt you... However, I think this dick will go the insanity way so he'll never even go to jail... |
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| Originally posted by Irishaddict The police radio transmissions posted on the star website today are |
any pictures of the killer yet? wtf is the holdup
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| Originally posted by VERTiG0 I wonder if maybe the kid's real name was John Connor. Then we're all screwed. I hope I'm not getting ahead of everybody here with my theory. Oh, here's a pic of the suspect.  |
where was dat!
ah
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| Originally posted by jon jon where was dat! ah |
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