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Posted by KaiLee on Oct-17-2008 04:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
Sad, sad, sad.

My best friend has been living down in Kinston, NC for past 10 years.

Just got an email from him today, and am pasting one part of it here. Its absolutely BRUTAL how f*cking racist ppl really are in much of the south still (well, NC for sure, at least; encountered it myself when ive been down there visiting him and others). . .

I grew up in NC and the racism is quite bad there but it's bad in other parts besides the southern US. A lot of my family members in Saskatchewan have and always will be incredibly racist....my grandmother told me if I were to "marry a *N* not to come around her house anymore because she wasn't about to have anything to do with that" (keep in mind this is in Canada Jem). There are racist people here in Asia. Actually my father told me when he was travelling in the UK, Australia and France he met more racist people there that were WAY more open about their racial issues than he did living for 7 years in North Carolina. Everyone seems to think Americans are the most racist and ignorant but this definitely isn't true....they've just grabbed the most attention for it.

Posted by Jem_hadar on Oct-17-2008 04:41:

Good points. I dont disagree Kells.

Posted by dEsidEL on Nov-07-2008 15:26:

with all due respect to rednecks

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/am...008/7704636.stm

Posted by Halycon on Nov-08-2008 03:38:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL

with all due respect to rednecks

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/am...008/7704636.stm

bless that man

Posted by rabbitjoker on Nov-08-2008 04:29:

quote:
Originally posted by KaiLee
A lot of my family members in Saskatchewan have and always will be incredibly racist....

This is NOT representative of the majority of people in Saskatchewan.

Posted by evil_cookie on Nov-08-2008 05:26:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL

with all due respect to rednecks

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/am...008/7704636.stm

awesome

quote:
Originally posted by Halycon
bless that man

Posted by KaiLee on Nov-08-2008 06:02:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
This is NOT representative of the majority of people in Saskatchewan.

No and I didn't mean for it to be...just trying to explain that it's not just in the US that are ignorant.

I'm from Saskatchewan and love the people there(minus the idiots)...what a friendly bunch of folks

Posted by Kamka on Nov-08-2008 06:17:

Re: Re: Re: Re: this is the type of people that still live in this world.

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
You are both (incorrectly) conflating the disparate subjects of spelling, grammar, sentence structure, shorthand, and writing style.

Shorthand is always accepted within its applicable domain (calling out someone for writing "LOL" or "IMHO" would be ridiculous). And it's generally accepted that an informal writing style will be used in an informal setting (for instance, I just started a sentence with a conjunction - whoopie shit! And I also elided several commas, and I routinely end sentences with prepositions, horror of horrors).

Spelling and grammar are not components of a specific writing style, and certainly not tied to formal writing. They represent basic literacy. Piss-poor writing may eventually be understood by the reader, but not as readily as clean writing and often with more risk of misinterpretation. More to the point, it simply makes one appear uneducated and lazy, because every individual is taught these skills from an early age and [ostensibly] uses them on a regular basis. It's no different from choking out the word "nucular" in speech.

Simply because many, or "the majority" of people seem unable or reluctant to write with an appropriate level of care and patience does not mean it reflects any less poorly on them. Not that this is actually true - the majority of people on this forum and other forums write with varying degrees of formality, but generally with a coherent sentence structure and without horrible flaws like mixing up tenses or singular/plural possessives.

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I have to say that I agree with you here - I also find it annoying and irritating how people these days seem unable to spell/write or even talk coherently - this is why I always admire how well people speak in those movies which are based in the historical context of 200 or 300 years ago (for example, the latest release of "Sense and Sensibility", based on the novel of the same name written by Jane Austen). Imagine, they didn't have access to all the modern communication devices that we have today, no Internet, TV, radio or telephones, and still they could talk so eloquently! I wish that people had retained that level of speaking ability up till now, but I guess not...

Posted by Dr. Z on Nov-08-2008 23:11:

Re: Re: Re: Re: this is the type of people that still live in this world.

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
You are both (incorrectly) conflating the disparate subjects of spelling, grammar, sentence structure, shorthand, and writing style.

Shorthand is always accepted within its applicable domain (calling out someone for writing "LOL" or "IMHO" would be ridiculous). And it's generally accepted that an informal writing style will be used in an informal setting (for instance, I just started a sentence with a conjunction - whoopie shit! And I also elided several commas, and I routinely end sentences with prepositions, horror of horrors).

Spelling and grammar are not components of a specific writing style, and certainly not tied to formal writing. They represent basic literacy. Piss-poor writing may eventually be understood by the reader, but not as readily as clean writing and often with more risk of misinterpretation. More to the point, it simply makes one appear uneducated and lazy, because every individual is taught these skills from an early age and [ostensibly] uses them on a regular basis. It's no different from choking out the word "nucular" in speech.

Simply because many, or "the majority" of people seem unable or reluctant to write with an appropriate level of care and patience does not mean it reflects any less poorly on them. Not that this is actually true - the majority of people on this forum and other forums write with varying degrees of formality, but generally with a coherent sentence structure and without horrible flaws like mixing up tenses or singular/plural possessives.

What's more, you're clearly implying with the words "continue to convey" that this "anal-retentiveness" constitutes some pattern of behaviour on my part, but unless you can produce some evidence, I have to respond that you are full of shit. There are only two types of instances where I bother to criticize:

1) When the writing is so incredibly poor that it actually imposes a mental tax on the reader for trying to comprehend it.

2) When the (poor) writing is fundamentally an attack on somebody else's intelligence or education. This is called hypocrisy. It smacks of the schoolyard antics of putting down someone else, generally someone who can't adequately defend him/herself on account of being weak or simply not present, in order to gain social standing or merely deflect negative attention away from oneself. It bothers me to see adults behave in this way.

As several others in this thread have now pointed out, it's clear from the comments that there is a great deal of hypocrisy in here, from people who are not much more rational or educated than the ones originally being put down. It's sad.

This post is pretty sad. It stifled all the enjoyment I was experiencing here.

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