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Originally posted by LatinLover You can buy or start a business by 1. Getting a loan from the bank 2. Have an angel investor 3. Launch a venture with an associate/partner 4. Take equity out of your home etc... You are not suppose to be rich to launch a business you know

That's great. But Joe still wouldn't be making 250k/yr...



And in this liquidity freeze, you can bet he won't be getting that bank loan. And how many angel investors want to invest a damn plumbing company?

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Originally posted by Krypton And in this liquidity freeze, you can bet he won't be getting that bank loan. And how many angel investors want to invest a damn plumbing company?

I dunno...non-cyclical, steady, cash generating business with low overhead. It's not like people will choose to let the pipes burst and let the house flood because they're too strapped to call a plumber. It's a pretty recession resistant business. Might be right in the wheelhouse of many investors these days. I think you'd be surprised. I'd think the biggest potential headwind might be dealing with unions, though I don't know if Joe is unionized.

Soak the rich!

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Joe is a sucker and a pawn in McShame's desperate game. McCain makes him famous then blames Obama for his being in the spotlight. Joe's loving the spotlight and McCain, not Obama put him in it. Joe makes 40K and can't afford to pay 1200 in back taxes. I'm sure the McCain's will pay it for him...you know for his time campaining for them and all. He's not even close to "saving enough money to buy his own business". And, unfortunaley he's too brainwashed (or stupid?) to realize that Obama's health and economic plans will help him reach his goal LONG BEFORE McCain's will. As long as he makes less than 250K HIS TAXES WILL NOT INCREASE ONE DIME!. If he suddenly begins making more 275K a year., he will pay an extra 3% on the 25K -- NOT THE WHOLE 275k. That's pretty close to rate under the Clinton administration when times were good! God forbid poor Joe gets sick. John McCain's gonna give him 5K (2K if he's single) to go out and find good insurance. Good luck with that Joe. Enjoy your 15 minutes of fame. Maybe FAUX News will offer you your own racist talk show.

Why do they hate Joe The Plumber? Why do they hate America? All he did was ask a question! Everything about JTP is a non sequitur. Why won't these damned media stop dragging Joe down?

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SARASOTA, Fla. � John McCain stopped at a series of small businesses along central Florida�s I-4 corridor on Wednesday, hoping to win-over economically-anxious voters with a bus tour through one of the Sunshine State�s most buffeted and hotly contested regions. Today�s outing was dubbed the �Joe the Plumber Tour,� after the Ohio voter who critically questioned Barack Obama�s tax plans and became a rhetorical fixture in the last presidential debate. Joe�s complaints have become a recurring theme for McCain in the final weeks of the 2008 race. Today, he was on the prowl for all sorts of small business owners who he could elevate to Everyman status, signaling out �David The Dentist� at a stop at Coatom Periodontal in Altamonte Springs. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14892.html

Oh. Who's David The Dentist? *dun dun dun*

What a joke

Not a joke

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Joe the Plumber open to 2010 run (CNN) � Could Joe the Plumber become Joe the congressman? Joe Wurzelbacher, the most famous plumber in America thanks to John McCain and Sarah Palin, told conservative talk radio host Laura Ingraham Friday he's considering a run for Congress in 2010. That would pit Wurzelbacher against longtime Democratic Rep. Marcy Kaptur for Ohio's 9th district on the state�s northern border, which includes Toledo and Sandusky. "I'll tell you what, we'd definitely be in one heck of a fight, Marcy Kaptur definitely has a following in this area," he said of the possibility. "But, you know, I'd be up for it." Wurzelbacher's chances would likely be slim. Kaptur has served in the district for 25 years, and remains a popular figure there. She won reelection in 2006 with nearly 75 percent of the vote and is expected to easily sail through another reelection this year. But Wurzelbacher, who gained fame after he challenged Barack Obama on his tax plan earlier this month, has attained a certain rock-star status in the Republican Party and his entrance into the race would likely be greeted with instant excitement and media coverage. Ingraham herself said she would immediately volunteer for his campaign and help him with campaign advertising and PR. Meanwhile, the National Republican Congressional Committee said they would welcome Wurzelbacher's candidacy with "open arms.� "We support Joe the Plumber and people like him everyday with our support for lower taxes and energy independence," NRCC spokesman Ken Spain said. But a spokesman for Kaptur told CNN Wurzelbacher is already off on the wrong foot. "We just had another big layoff at the jeep plant, another 800 workers," Kaptur spokesman Steve Fought said. "So embracing Bush-McCain economics is kind of a strange way to launch your campaign. I'd have to question that strategy" Wurzelbacher's comments come a week after a group of college Republicans launched a Web site with the hope of drafting him for a congressional run. �Washington, DC is broken and it needs to be fixed. Joe Wurzelbacher has a real-world perspective and the right attitude to clean up the mess on Capitol Hill,� says the group�s Web site, which carries the slogan, �Plunge the crap out of Washington.� http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...en-to-2010-run/

Sounds like 'ol Joe is out for his own interests in the name of the common man. Can't think of anything more Republican than that.

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Originally posted by josh4 Sounds like 'ol Joe is out for his own interests in the name of the common man. Can't think of anything more Republican than that.

greedy bastards out for their own self interestes aren't defined by party lines. they all do it

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Originally posted by The17sss greedy bastards out for their own self interestes aren't defined by party lines. they all do it

Then you agree JTP is a phony out for his own interests.

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Originally posted by josh4 Then you agree JTP is a phony out for his own interests.

I don't know... maybe. But he didn't go looking for Obama to get in the limelight, it was Obama that knocked on his door (so to speak), and everything that has happened since is a result of him getting Obama to say what he really wants to do with our money, which is spread the wealth around. Everyone is losing sight of what that really means, beacuse the focus has switched to the all out assault on Joe. He very well could be taking advantage of the situation now though... but that still remains to be seen.

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Originally posted by The17sss I don't know... maybe. But he didn't go looking for Obama to get in the limelight, it was Obama that knocked on his door (so to speak), and everything that has happened since is a result of him getting Obama to say what he really wants to do with our money, which is spread the wealth around. Everyone is losing sight of what that really means, beacuse the focus has switched to the all out assault on Joe. He very well could be taking advantage of the situation now though... but that still remains to be seen.

Wait... OBAMA is responsible for the media circus?

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Wait... OBAMA is responsible for the media circus?

No... I'm saying Joe didn't bring all of this insanity on himself; he was approached by Obama. I'm not suggesting Obama is instructing the media to do anything, but on the other hand he really doesn't have to

Now this guy wants to run for congress in 2010. LOL

What a joke.

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Originally posted by The17sss No... I'm saying Joe didn't bring all of this insanity on himself; he was approached by Obama. I'm not suggesting Obama is instructing the media to do anything, but on the other hand he really doesn't have to

By "he was approached by Obama," do you mean, because Obama was at a campaign event in his town?

Obama didn't walk up to Joe and say "Hey, what do you think of my tax policies?" Joe asked Obama the question that clearly showed that Joe didn't understand the tax policies in question. Since then, McCain has done nothing but run with the ignorance. He speaks of Joe the Plumber all the time as some sort example for what Joe Everyman thinks, ignoring the fact that Joe admits that McCain's policies will take more money out of his pocket.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Now this guy wants to run for congress in 2010. LOL What a joke.

Sarah Palin has shown us all that uninformed people will always have a spot at the head of the GOP.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Sarah Palin has shown us all that uninformed people will always have a spot at the head of the GOP.

You can see Russia from Alaska!!

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Originally posted by Krypton You can see Russia from Alaska!!

Sorry...needed to be done...

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Originally posted by The17sss I don't know... maybe. But he didn't go looking for Obama to get in the limelight, it was Obama that knocked on his door (so to speak), and everything that has happened since is a result of him getting Obama to say what he really wants to do with our money, which is spread the wealth around. Everyone is losing sight of what that really means, beacuse the focus has switched to the all out assault on Joe. He very well could be taking advantage of the situation now though... but that still remains to be seen.

Well, glad we cleared this up.

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Joe the Plumber pursued for record deal Move over, Sanjaya, and tell William Hung the news: Joe the Plumber is being pursued for a major record deal and could come out with a country album as early as Inauguration Day. �Joe� � aka Samuel Wurzelbacher, a Holland, Ohio, pipe-and-toilet man � just signed with a Nashville public relations and management firm to handle interview requests and media appearances, as well as create new career opportunities, including a shift out of the plumbing trade into stage and studio performances. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/15072.html

So when will Joe The Plumber guest star on Larry The Cable Guy?

Look, the guy is a complete retard. Even foxnews recognizes that.

Not that anyone (who supports Obama) cares, but does it bother any of you guys that a Democrat who is the head of Ohio's "Job And Family Services" department (and contributed $2500 to Obama) used government computers to dig for dirt on Joe? Of course she said it wasn't for political reasons...lol. Bigger lie!

Anyway those records are supposed to be checked only when some probable cause exists to do so. What was this lady's probable cause? She claims that sudden public notoriety is enough to generate an investigation of someone�s status. She provides this sort of illegal intrusion into personal records for anyone who �comes into the public light.� It�s a public service, you see. Riiiiight.

Does this bother you guys at all... that they can do this? All of you who are such fervent supporters of stopping illegal wiretapping and other forms of government intrusion should feel the same about this, no?

And an even bigger shock?

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Democrat Gov. Ted Strickland is satisfied that there are no political overtures to the check on Wurzelbacher, a spokesman said. �Based on what we know to this point, we don�t have any reason to believe the information was improperly accessed or disclosed by a state employee,� said Keith Dailey, Strickland�s press secretary.

No reason to believe that Joe got politically vetted for dirt? What reason existed to look up his information at that particular point in time? Had someone filed a complaint against Joe? The act of opening his court records by a public agency has to have some motivation, and if no reason for a legitimate investigation exists, then by deduction the reasons were illegitimate � and almost certainly a dive for dirt. Change you can believe in... the State will own you.

Also, they dug into his tax and welfare personal info... wtf!
http://dispatch.com/live/content/lo...30.html?sid=101

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Originally posted by The17sss Not that anyone (who supports Obama) cares, but does it bother any of you guys that a Democrat who is the head of Ohio's "Job And Family Services" department (and contributed $2500 to Obama) used government computers to dig for dirt on Joe? Of course she said it wasn't for political reasons...lol. Bigger lie! Anyway those records are supposed to be checked only when some probable cause exists to do so. What was this lady's probable cause? She claims that sudden public notoriety is enough to generate an investigation of someone�s status. She provides this sort of illegal intrusion into personal records for anyone who �comes into the public light.� It�s a public service, you see. Riiiiight. Does this bother you guys at all... that they can do this? All of you who are such fervent supporters of stopping illegal wiretapping and other forms of government intrusion should feel the same about this, no? And an even bigger shock? No reason to believe that Joe got politically vetted for dirt? What reason existed to look up his information at that particular point in time? Had someone filed a complaint against Joe? The act of opening his court records by a public agency has to have some motivation, and if no reason for a legitimate investigation exists, then by deduction the reasons were illegitimate � and almost certainly a dive for dirt. Change you can believe in... the State will own you. Also, they dug into his tax and welfare personal info... wtf! http://dispatch.com/live/content/lo...30.html?sid=101

When he gets on national TV and says that Obama's tax plan is going to cost him more because he makes more than $250K, they're just trying to get information to find out whether they need to go after him for tax evasion or some other crime. That's not political vetting, that's ensuring that he's not ripping off the state.

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Originally posted by occrider Look, the guy is a complete retard. Even foxnews recognizes that.

So Joe wants viewers to go out and do their own research about why he would think that Obama would be "the death of Israel." Well, I did mine, and I've come to the conclusion that Joe thinks this because he's just as ignorant about Obama's views on Israel as he is on the the tax plans that he railed against.

BTW, who'd have thought that Ohioans were so concerned with Jews. In Western PA, a with a very similar demographic to Ohio, the only time I ever heard of Jews was when someone was being cheap and it was used as a slur.

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Originally posted by The17sss Not that anyone (who supports Obama) cares, but does it bother any of you guys that a Democrat who is the head of Ohio's "Job And Family Services" department (and contributed $2500 to Obama) used government computers to dig for dirt on Joe? Of course she said it wasn't for political reasons...lol. Bigger lie! Anyway those records are supposed to be checked only when some probable cause exists to do so. What was this lady's probable cause? She claims that sudden public notoriety is enough to generate an investigation of someone�s status. She provides this sort of illegal intrusion into personal records for anyone who �comes into the public light.� It�s a public service, you see. Riiiiight. Does this bother you guys at all... that they can do this? All of you who are such fervent supporters of stopping illegal wiretapping and other forms of government intrusion should feel the same about this, no?

Are you dense? How does this implicate Obama in any way? That some dumbass state employee who happened to be a Democrat over-stepped her authority?

Yep, sounds like I'm going to vote for McCain now!

God, your desperation makes you look silly, you realize that?

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Originally posted by occrider Look, the guy is a complete retard. Even foxnews recognizes that.

Fox News has always known that. Joe was doing interviews on their programs before any other networks. They're throwing him under the bus to cover their ass, realizing hes not needed anymore and is becoming a liability.

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