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Originally posted by Krypton I tend to think financial and social wealth come hand in hand.

Exactly.

I have both, does that make me a cu*t?

What I've learned from reading these replies:

- In my OP, I explicitly said: "You will be filthy rich, but have no friends, or you will have all the friends in the world, but no money. This is the dichotomy, and it's only one or the other." I said this. Even though I never typed those words in the OP, it's exactly what I meant.

- Because of what I explicitly stated above, the logical conclusion is that: financial wealth doesn't equal social poverty, so even though I explicitly stated that as a condition of the question, it's OK to ignore it and not consider it in your answer (please keep in mind that I explicitly stated that financial wealth with social poverty was a choice, even though you can't find the exact phrase I made in the point above (which is in quotes, signifying that it was stated somewhere in this thread, by me) or anything remotely similar to it. I did say this, according to everyone else in this thread).

- Also, social wealth equals financial poverty, which I did explicitly state, and since I explicitly stated that as a condition of the question, it's only logical to consider that in your answer, so the obvious decision is choosing financial wealth, which doesn't equal social poverty instead of social wealth which MUST equal financial poverty. Brilliant reasoning from our fine posters.

All I know is that I know nothing,

My skin will decay, my car will get old

but my spirit will grow

If taken care of and bred with love,

I'll never be poor.

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Being a millionaire or billionaire doesn't really appeal to me, whether it's in this current society or even in the more social society. Does anyone else on this planet feel the way I do?

Yes many people feel like you do. You�re not special even though you might think you are. But we can forgive you for you�re at that age where pointless day long philosophizing is the norm.
I�ve found that most people who aren�t interested in becoming a �millionaire or billionaire� are at that point in their lives where they face the cold hard truth that they never will acquire such wealth. Hence the motivation to question �financial wealth��

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Originally posted by Utencil for you�re at that age where pointless day long philosophizing is the norm.

Do all 20 year olds go through this phase? What's the phase immediately after this one? (serious post)

Well, let's just say I can afford to philosophize all day long

You...Know This

Rule #1 Never Fail

Rule #2 Never forget rule number one...

W.Buffett

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Originally posted by Utencil Yes many people feel like you do. You�re not special even though you might think you are. But we can forgive you for you�re at that age where pointless day long philosophizing is the norm. I�ve found that most people who aren�t interested in becoming a �millionaire or billionaire� are at that point in their lives where they face the cold hard truth that they never will acquire such wealth. Hence the motivation to question �financial wealth��

LOL. I like it. "Philosophy is just the consolation prize for people who can never have the greatest pleasure in life: being a billionaire."

Anyway, the reason I don't care about making big piles of money is that I've known both people who make a whole lot of it and people who make just enough to be comfortable, and the first group doesn't seem any happier than the second. So why bother myself much about it as long as I keep myself out of poverty?

Re: Which would you rather? Financial wealth or social wealth?

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Originally posted by Akridrot I am asking myself this question more and more these days, and the prospect of helping to create, and living in, a society where everyone works together for an improved quality of life seems to be the path I want. Being a millionaire or billionaire doesn't really appeal to me, whether it's in this current society or even in the more social society. Does anyone else on this planet feel the way I do? I would rather be able to buy cheap and healthy food when needed; I'd rather have plenty of friends to socialize with, to learn from, and to teach; I'd rather a live a life creating and sharing all forms of Art and being involved in bringing visions to life (mine or others). Wouldn't it be better to live in a community where people fucking care about you? Where strangers aren't seen as mysterious and malevolent monsters out to hurt you? Where paranoia, conformity, and ignorance are no longer the norm? If I had a trillion dollars (!) I'd trade it all in just to be a fucking poor man in that society. What's your position?

I agree with you on all points.

Friendship and camaraderie are way more important than material crap, IMO.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Anyway, the reason I don't care about making big piles of money is that I've known both people who make a whole lot of it and people who make just enough to be comfortable, and the first group doesn't seem any happier than the second. So why bother myself much about it as long as I keep myself out of poverty?

Some of the wealthiest people that I know are also the most miserable.

Just so long as one has good friends as well as the basic living necessities then that's all that they really need.

You make your own happiness, anyway. It's not found in financial accounts or material possessions.

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Originally posted by Utencil I�ve found that most people who aren�t interested in becoming a �millionaire or billionaire� are at that point in their lives where they face the cold hard truth that they never will acquire such wealth. Hence the motivation to question �financial wealth��

But what if they came from such wealth and then turned their backs on it in order to live their lives more freely?

What would you say to them?

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"Most people seek after what they do not possess and are thus enslaved by the very things they want to acquire." - Anwar el-Sadat

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