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Posted by LightsOut on Nov-05-2008 02:18:

174-64


Posted by LightsOut on Nov-05-2008 02:20:

Anyone else a little concerned how ridiculously close the popular vote is??

Right now its:
Obama: 13,568,499 (50%)
McCain: 13,361,837 (50%)

i kinda expected Obama to have a sizable lead by now....


Posted by UmmiE on Nov-05-2008 02:22:

fuck thats some scary numbers


Posted by Special K on Nov-05-2008 02:23:

I hope obama loses the popular vote but wins the election


Posted by exstasie on Nov-05-2008 02:27:

so far though there hasn't been any States that have switched parties from last election. (according to CNN).

Ohio or maybe NC might be the first one to go Democrat that was Republican last election.


Posted by LightsOut on Nov-05-2008 02:41:

194-69

CNN predicts Obama wins Ohio....

significant because no republican has ever won the whitehouse without winning Ohio.

MORE IMPORTANTLY

it means that unless McCain can sweep almost every other state, including California (which will NEVER happen), the republicans mathematically CANNOT win


Posted by Endlesswave on Nov-05-2008 02:49:

Yeah, Obama will win. Not by a landslide but he will win.


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Nov-05-2008 02:49:

Obama has won Pennsylvania and Ohio. If he takes back Florida, it's over. It's pretty much over right now anyway.

The popular vote is just way too close though. Scary.


Posted by jchung52 on Nov-05-2008 02:50:

a bomb just went off in chicago


Posted by jchung52 on Nov-05-2008 02:51:

just kidding


Posted by She_Fitz on Nov-05-2008 02:52:

quote:
Originally posted by DannyPINK
My thoughts and those who want to bring up the assasination topic are that they are undereducated about what really matters and just want to be a part of the coversation.

It's getting old. If it happens it will be one of the saddest days in US history on par with 9-11.


Look at all the Charismatic leaders of the past and see where they are today... Martin Luther King or JFK as 2 for example.

Not to mention the threats that have already been made against him and people arrested for it.

I think it is a very valid point to discuss and a real threat to his future.


Posted by yankeeBaby on Nov-05-2008 02:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
My thoughts exactly.
The world is watching this election, and they're entitled to an opinion - particularly after the U.S. single handedly brought the global financial system to its knees in the last several months.


yup, they are watching! When I was in Holland this week, EVERYONE asked me who I was voting for. I teased a few with a "mcCain" response. It was fun to see their anger until I told them my REAL answer.



PS: AWESOME to win Ohio.....KEY state!


Posted by geroin on Nov-05-2008 03:03:

206-89


Posted by rabbitjoker on Nov-05-2008 03:08:

North Dakota is the race to watch! Battleground state!


Posted by exstasie on Nov-05-2008 03:14:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
North Dakota is the race to watch! Battleground state!


North Dakota's already gone red.

Sorry


Posted by rulzz on Nov-05-2008 03:19:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
North Dakota is the race to watch! Battleground state!


LOL


Posted by Jem_hadar on Nov-05-2008 03:19:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
27-12 Giants over the Redskins

Oh Cale!

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
but also dislike the fact that he is not a good christian white boy.

I love the fact that he's not a christian white boy.


Posted by Irishaddict on Nov-05-2008 07:11:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
i don't think that rj is saying that we cAn't have an opinion. it's just different when you are in the process than watching from outside.

everyone in the world thinks that obama is the right choice but we don't have to live with the consequences of making a bad choice. we also don't have the day to day circumstances that they live with down there. we also don't know all the ads and all the craziness that goes on.

or he could be condescending and if that's true then to hell with him! lol.


Pardon my literal interpretation I suppose but conjecture seems to suggest any opinion is completely uninformed, when I'd beg the contrary for anyone with half a brain posting about the American election. And to be fair, RJ is watching from the outside as well.

Everyone in the world does not think Obama is the 'right' choice. They simply think Obama is the 'better' choice rather than adding 4 more years of Republican mess after 8 years of Bush. Change indeed. The ads and 'craziness' that goes on down there is well documented online for anyone who posits an opinion that is more than 'conjecture'. This election meant a hell of a lot for more than just America, and it's naive and almost bitter to suggest the marginal populations are the "know-nots."


Posted by rabbitjoker on Nov-05-2008 15:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Irishaddict
Because people posting in the thread are not American, they are not entitled to an opinion? Or is it that you feel yours is simply more valuable because of your citizenship? Pretty condescending RJ.


Wow! Way to jump to conclusions (read words before reading between the lines).

Conjecture is much easier when one doesn't actually have the responsibility of participating in the process.

(no mention of entitlement, opinion or the value of either)


Posted by rabbitjoker on Nov-05-2008 15:11:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
North Dakota's already gone red.


Still a battle-ground state:

Usually a reliable Republican stronghold, North Dakota is one of the latest "red" states to become a competitive presidential battleground. Bush carried the state with 61 percent in 2000 and 63 percent in 2004. Voters have consistently elected Democrats to the U.S. Senate and House, but the last Democrat to carry the state in a presidential race was Lyndon Johnson in 1964. Several polls have shown a surprisingly close race, with Obama either tied with McCain or slightly ahead. Obama has also launched a late TV ad campaign here in the hopes of scoring an embarrassing upset on GOP turf.


Posted by StereoPrincess on Nov-05-2008 15:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Irishaddict
And to be fair, RJ is watching from the outside as well.


well he got to vote. in a battleground state. i actually had a ballot in my house . too bad you don't get a sticker when you send it in.

i personally think that the white house should be one party and the senate and house should be another. too much democrats is not good either.


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