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Posted by StereoPrincess on Nov-05-2008 15:38:

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And to all those watching tonight from beyond our shores, from parliaments and palaces, to those who are huddled around radios in the forgotten corners of the world, our stories are singular, but our destiny is shared, and a new dawn of American leadership is at hand.

To those -- to those who would tear the world down: We will defeat you. To those who seek peace and security: We support you. And to all those who have wondered if America's beacon still burns as bright: Tonight we proved once more that the true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals: democracy, liberty, opportunity and unyielding hope.

I really liked when he said "we will defeat you".

Posted by Yohan on Nov-05-2008 15:38:

some obama lulz for the morning. (thanks c0r)

Baracka wins!

Posted by Knox on Nov-05-2008 15:52:

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Originally posted by Irishaddict
yeah wow.

this is a 'where were you when' moment for this generation for sure.

Sitting on my comfy red couch.

Posted by Special K on Nov-05-2008 15:55:

does anyone know what the voter turnout % wise was like for last night?

Posted by Skipper on Nov-05-2008 15:57:

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Originally posted by Special K
does anyone know what the voter turnout % wise was like for last night?

64%

Posted by ChemEnhanced on Nov-05-2008 15:57:

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Originally posted by Skipper
That doesn't have anything to do with race.

I am suggesting those are other factors for him getting elected....I agree those have nothing to do with race.

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Originally posted by Skipper
And as for the black vote, I can understand that - african americans identify with him, and think their needs will not be ignored. That makes him the best candidate because of their perspective.

The best candidate is not an objective measure - everyone has different priorities and perspectives based on their culture, race, social status etc. You can't say that blacks voted Obama because he was black - and even if they did, a black presidential candidate could bring to the table a set of priorities that qualifies him as the "best candidate" in their eyes. I doubt too many people heavily agreed with McCain but voted Obama because he was black (actually's he's half white, but I digress...) - give the african american people some credit, they can figure out who to vote for based on the real issues and not just vote for the person who looks like them.

There was a greater turnout in all minority groups and the percentages went to Obama....I will agree that many people in minority groups voted for Obama because of his political stance and because in their opinion he is "the best candidate". There are also those who did vote for him because he was black and those that voted for him because he was a minority. There is definately a percentage of the voting population who know nothing about the political stances of each party and are making their judgements on stupid things like skin colour.

I am sure both McCain and Obama won and lost votes because of their skin colour....however....I think Obama benefited more from it them McCain.

Posted by Jem_hadar on Nov-05-2008 16:00:

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Originally posted by exstasie
There are still an abundant of people baby boomers out there who are prejudice and haven't been able to change their mindset about race. Considering they represent the largest demographic out there shows that can embrace change.

My buddy works as a barber down in Kinston, NC (the Greenville area... a wee-bit east of Raleigh/Durham)

Anyways, most all his shop's clientele are old or older men (40's-90's). The level of racism in his area of NC is shockingly strong and prevalent.

Every time Obama had a key speech, all that would be disgusted the next day, he told me, was how they (the customers/fellow barbers) cant believe a ****** is running to try to be president, blah blah blah.

He's actually dreading all the comments and BS he's going to be hearing today and have to suffer through from the other barbers (older gentlemen who have been barbering their whole lives), as well as the majority of his clients. Wow, eh? Pretty much unbelievable, but thats the general state of affairs and mentality in many parts of NC still.

Posted by thesauce23 on Nov-05-2008 16:17:

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Originally posted by exstasie
But if the US wasn't truly a free country

we're really not.

Posted by KaiLee on Nov-05-2008 16:37:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Skipper

Obama inspired people and 130 some million votes proved that! It's awesome to see people workin their voter skillz

Celebrations have been all around here in Shanghai! From bar parties with Obamatinis to a random guy at a noodle shop telling me "Obama shu hen hao" (Obama is very good!) when he heard we were Americans. They're lovin it all around the world!

Glad to see the world can see a better side of America now

Posted by She_Fitz on Nov-05-2008 16:40:

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker
If only every election was this exciting! Imagine the voter engagement and positive societal impact!

Then we would all win..

This is the biggest acheivement in this election.

Posted by exstasie on Nov-05-2008 16:45:

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Jem_Hardar

That's crazy, but not shocking at all.

That's why there is a lot of fear that some radical might do something extreme.

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Originally posted by thesauce23
we're really not.

Nope you're not, considering 4 states voted against gay marriage? lol

You win some and you lose some!

Posted by thesauce23 on Nov-05-2008 16:48:

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Originally posted by exstasie
Nope you're not, considering 4 states voted against gay marriage? lol

You win some and you lose some!

no thats not the big deal.. read about the patriot act, the 16th amendment and what woodrow wilson did in 1913 that fucked this country so much

Posted by jsibilin on Nov-05-2008 16:57:

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Originally posted by MKpacha

right click, set as desktop background !!!

Posted by Orko on Nov-05-2008 17:12:

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Originally posted by Yohan
the fact that obama is black is insignificant to me, because I do not pick a person for a job by their race, religion, culture, etc. (everyone starts equally worthless until proven otherwise )

no seriously. the fact that some people have to celebrate the fact that obama is black shows how far humanity still has to go. (don't get me started on retarded racial conflicts)

This is exactly the point. A lot of people voted for him based on the person, policies, and not his race. This would not have happened 100 years ago. The fact that people looked passed his skin colour to come out and vote, is the big deal.

Of course a lot of people voted for him because he was black. But he lost just as many votes due to his colour than he gained. They are not throwing up bullet proof glass up for no reason.

Posted by Skipper on Nov-05-2008 17:21:

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
There is definately a percentage of the voting population who know nothing about the political stances of each party and are making their judgements on stupid things like skin colour.

I am sure both McCain and Obama won and lost votes because of their skin colour....however....I think Obama benefited more from it them McCain.

Do you have any source for this?

Posted by jsibilin on Nov-05-2008 17:22:

obama is not BLACK!!! he is malado !!!

Posted by ChemEnhanced on Nov-05-2008 17:24:

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Originally posted by Yohan

while I'd have preferred Obama over McCain as the president, this excessive groveling and prasing Obama like he's the next saviour of the world is really getting on my nerves

I think his biggest downfall will be that people are praising him and treating him like he is a saviour.....he has already tried to difuse this bomb last night. The problem is he is being praised across the globe as the person who is going to change everything and make the world great again....I sure hope this all doesn't blow up in his face.

Posted by KaiLee on Nov-05-2008 17:26:

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Originally posted by exstasie
That's crazy, but not shocking at all.

That's why there is a lot of fear that some radical might do something extreme.

I sure hope not. People thought Rodney King riots were bad?

Posted by ChemEnhanced on Nov-05-2008 17:35:

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Originally posted by Skipper
Do you have any source for this?

Come on....do you honestly think they are polling people coming out of the voting booths asking if they voted for someone because of their skin colour? of course there is no documented source for this. Can you honestly believe that every single person who votes is making an actual educated and informed decision? Can you honestly say there are not those who are going to vote because of their racial hate for either the white man or the black man?

Even in our own election...I know many people who didn't know anything about the platforms of each party and only based their decision on who sounded like they were lying less.

Posted by Orko on Nov-05-2008 17:37:

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I think his biggest downfall will be that people are praising him and treating him like he is a saviour.....he has already tried to difuse this bomb last night. The problem is he is being praised across the globe as the person who is going to change everything and make the world great again....I sure hope this all doesn't blow up in his face.

Blow up in his face? You make it sound as if it was a deliberate plan to try and make people think he was the second coming of Christ. The guy campaigned to become the president, and do what he can, with the powers that are given to him. As I've said before, he didn't promise rainbows and picnics.

Yes, his job is difficult, and no matter what he accomplishes, it will not be enough. After all, it is much easier to destroy something in a short period of time, than it is to build it. Bush/republicans did a lot of damage in 8 years, and it will take much longer than 8 years to fix those problems. He realises that.

I'm sure you can agree that the president or any head of state is as symbolic to the country, as they are a person who gets stuff done. Judging by the way he ran his campaign, he can get people behind him, and organize for a positive goal. Realistically that is all he has to do, organize, and motivate. People still need to go to work, raise their kids, and build a better future for them selves. Most people realise that.

Posted by Orko on Nov-05-2008 17:37:

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Originally posted by KaiLee
I sure hope not. People thought Rodney King riots were bad?

And that was just some drunk fool who tried to fight a cop.

Posted by Yohan on Nov-05-2008 17:38:

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Originally posted by Orko
Blow up in his face? You make it sound as if it was a deliberate plan to try and make people think he was the second coming of Christ. The guy campaigned to become the president, and do what he can, with the powers that are given to him. As I've said before, he didn't promise rainbows and picnics.

Yes, his job is difficult, and no matter what he accomplishes, it will not be enough. After all, it is much easier to destroy something in a short period of time, than it is to build it. Bush/republicans did a lot of damage in 8 years, and it will take much longer than 8 years to fix those problems. He realises that.

I'm sure you can agree that the president or any head of state is as symbolic to the country, as they are a person who gets stuff done. Judging by the way he ran his campaign, he can get people behind him, and organize for a positive goal. Realistically that is all he has to do, organize, and motivate. People still need to go to work, raise their kids, and build a better future for them selves. Most people realise that.

It's not Obama that's making it sound like Obama is the 2nd coming of Christ. It's the rest of the world that makes him.

So when Obama doesn't deliver, it's going to get ugly

Posted by ChemEnhanced on Nov-05-2008 17:42:

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Originally posted by Orko
Blow up in his face? You make it sound as if it was a deliberate plan to try and make people think he was the second coming of Christ. The guy campaigned to become the president, and do what he can, with the powers that are given to him. As I've said before, he didn't promise rainbows and picnics.

Yes, his job is difficult, and no matter what he accomplishes, it will not be enough. After all, it is much easier to destroy something in a short period of time, than it is to build it. Bush/republicans did a lot of damage in 8 years, and it will take much longer than 8 years to fix those problems. He realises that.

I'm sure you can agree that the president or any head of state is as symbolic to the country, as they are a person who gets stuff done. Judging by the way he ran his campaign, he can get people behind him, and organize for a positive goal. Realistically that is all he has to do, organize, and motivate. People still need to go to work, raise their kids, and build a better future for them selves. Most people realise that.

I don't think it was a deliberate plan at all....but the people of the world...not just the USA are putting him up on this platform and saying how he is going to change things and make things better. I think people across the world are expecting him to waive some magical wond and make the world a better place...which he has already said he can't do. People are expecting big and fast changes....and when those don't happen people will speak out...not just americans but people across the world.

Posted by jchung52 on Nov-05-2008 17:46:

i loved the interview with the lady from nigeria.. something along hte lines of "its a great day cuz my brother is president of the US" lol

Posted by KaiLee on Nov-05-2008 17:47:

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Originally posted by Orko
Blow up in his face? You make it sound as if it was a deliberate plan to try and make people think he was the second coming of Christ. The guy campaigned to become the president, and do what he can, with the powers that are given to him. As I've said before, he didn't promise rainbows and picnics.

Yes, his job is difficult, and no matter what he accomplishes, it will not be enough. After all, it is much easier to destroy something in a short period of time, than it is to build it. Bush/republicans did a lot of damage in 8 years, and it will take much longer than 8 years to fix those problems. He realises that.

I'm sure you can agree that the president or any head of state is as symbolic to the country, as they are a person who gets stuff done. Judging by the way he ran his campaign, he can get people behind him, and organize for a positive goal. Realistically that is all he has to do, organize, and motivate. People still need to go to work, raise their kids, and build a better future for them selves. Most people realise that.

I like your words! That mindset is what swung my vote in the end. We need change in America and the man has shown he can bring it.

I'm still amazed at the voter enthusiasm this year. It's beautiful to see so many young people involved!

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