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Originally posted by Coxx sean tyas -lift

DAMMIT!!! i left about 3 hours too early!

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Originally posted by DJ_Elyot Jennifer Rene..... LOL. She's like the Sarah Palin of DJing. Jennifer trainwrecked her first transition. HORRIBLY. I was truly in disbelief... I mean, I've heard the stories and all, but to actually be in Guv and witness a trainwreck that terrible coming from an international DJ was really quite shocking. I guess I shouldn't have been surprised. She trainwrecked about 40% of the time, I think

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Originally posted by smuncky that horrible start by jennifer rene

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Originally posted by Intuition As was said, she emptied the dancefloor pretty quickly,

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Originally posted by Coxx Jennifer Rene The mixing was off a little bit when she played the second track but after that everything was on cue.

So which is it? lol

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Originally posted by Yohan So which is it? lol

She trainwrecked several times. Very noticeably. I'm not talking about a tiny gallop in the kicks; we're talking full-on desynchronized beats that she had a hard time fixing. She trainwrecked the first transition horribly, did OK for a few, trainwrecked again, I went to the acid lounge for a bit, came back, heard her screw up again, went and got my coat, she trainwrecked again right before I left... :P

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Originally posted by Coxx Apologize svd bootleg mix, which i hate omg what a shit tunee Veronica glad you made it out bc you would of miss a really good party

WHAAAAT how can you hate that tune, sssoooooo good

and I'm so glad I made it, I would have been soooooo missing out!!!!

as soon as "apologize" came on, it was a sign that my night was supposed to come to an end. lol

for some reason, that song gets under my skin every single time i hear it.

but hey...apparently 99% of the club loved it.

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Originally posted by Yohan So which is it? lol

She did mess up the first transition, but the rest weren't bad, I've certainly heard MUCH worse! Honestly I thought she did a great job, being the closer, especially at the twilight zone hour is much tougher than most people know. You have 3 DJs before you play all the banging stuff, especially after Menno literally destroyed the floor, so that's a tough act to follow up.

The room emptied? Surely being that it was 5am and that majority of the people were most likely there to see Rank 1/Gareth/Menno, yeah doesn't come as a surprise to me

What I want to know is what do you all of you people think of the techier trance remixes of 'classic' tunes? It's getting out of hand imo, unless it's done really well which is typically not the case from what I'm seeing. I think there's just an overabudance of them done every year to suit the 'in' style at the time. That just bites...

Whatever happened to playing your own 'style' (and that does NOT mean all of your tracks in one night, this goes for even my fav djs...) but also throwing in the occasional classic from way back when as a highlight to your set?

It's like djs (more so trance djs in the past few years imo) seemed to have lost the will to work a crowd and instead just play crap for their entire set...

complacency

most trance djs and producers see what the majority of current trance fans like, and keep playing and producing similar crap

i find very few trance djs are pushing for originality and creativity
and the tunes that are different from cookie cutter trance, it doesn't sell, so no decent producer will take a shot making those tunes

as for the remake of classics, bah. most of them are terrible

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Originally posted by electro88 Can anyone ID the first song?

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Originally posted by smuncky google the lyrics and you'll get First State Feat. Elliot Johns - Your Own Way.

I believe it's a Sander van Doorn Edit... (Sander van Doorn 2 in 1 Edit)

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Originally posted by v-vaughn yup but this is the Sander van Doorn 2in1 Mix of this song....I believe

Oops, I guess I got a little excited :P

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Originally posted by Mortyman Oops, I guess I got a little excited :P

ahaha omg I did too when I saw this...we clearly do share a love for sander

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Originally posted by Yohan complacency most trance djs and producers see what the majority of current trance fans like, and keep playing and producing similar crap i find very few trance djs are pushing for originality and creativity and the tunes that are different from cookie cutter trance, it doesn't sell, so no decent producer will take a shot making those tunes as for the remake of classics, bah. most of them are terrible

So true. I've heard a few badass trance tunes (PvD's PoD 2, a few tracks throughout the years etc) that have full on elements of other genres but aren't cookie cutter, they're used in creative ways too. This is why I'm so picky w trance djs and haven't really found someone that made me go 'wow', I haven't really looked though to those who push for originality.

I instead went towards techier stuff or the housier type of music that IS filled with melodies now. How ironic that the trance that had tons of quality melodies and beats is/was now found in house.

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Originally posted by Orko Definitely not. How often do you actually go, because from reading reviews and roll calls, it does not seem like very often. It mainly depends on the DJ playing, and if they bothered to tweak the sound the way they want. Yes, usually during MO's sets, the bass and volume are too high. But, the good headliners will make sure the sound is good.

Every single week between 2004-2005... Once, sometimes twice a month through 2006, every once in a while these days. It always is, and always has been the same stupid shit with the Guv sound. It's GREAT until the headliner hits the decks, then someone turns up the bass dial (and the master volume) and all I can hear and feel is "BRR BRRR BRRR BRRR BRRR BRRR" Guv's sound system sounds like that stupid kid in school who thinks that the Bass in their car system is 'sick' because it sounds like a static-pulse every beat. (think, blown-out speaker, and I'm pretty sure Guv has at least ONE blown-out speaker along the washroom side of main-room, they should check that out)

Bass should be crisp, clean and thumpin. And it sure as hell shouldn't drown out the highs and mids the way it does in Guv main. When I think of good sound, I think of Destiny parties at The Docks, and Footwork week in and week out... those are sound crews that know what they're doing. And I'm not holding my ears in pain if I forget my earplugs by 1:30.

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Originally posted by Yohan complacency most trance djs and producers see what the majority of current trance fans like, and keep playing and producing similar crap i find very few trance djs are pushing for originality and creativity and the tunes that are different from cookie cutter trance, it doesn't sell, so no decent producer will take a shot making those tunes as for the remake of classics, bah. most of them are terrible

I don't think this is entirely true; there's quite a lot of "different" trance out there nowadays and some of it does very well.

I hate tech-trance remixes of trance songs. Period. And it especially pisses me off when people defile a classic by replacing its melodic climax with BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM ...

Beyond that, I don't mind the mashups at all. Gareth Emery's version of This is That with The Silence laid over top was really nice.

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Originally posted by Spam It's GREAT until the headliner hits the decks, then someone turns up the bass dial (and the master volume) and all I can hear and feel is "BRR BRRR BRRR BRRR BRRR BRRR" Guv's sound system sounds like that stupid kid in school who thinks that the Bass in their car system is 'sick' because it sounds like a static-pulse every beat.

I agree with you here.

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Originally posted by Spam Bass should be crisp, clean and thumpin. And it sure as hell shouldn't drown out the highs and mids the way it does in Guv main. When I think of good sound, I think of Destiny parties at The Docks, and Footwork week in and week out... those are sound crews that know what they're doing. And I'm not holding my ears in pain if I forget my earplugs by 1:30.

Do you remember Rio's (VIVA) sound system? I swear that system was hands down one of the cleanest sound system in the city.The bass was soooooooooooo fuckin crisp and the mids and highs were jut right.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer Do you remember Rio's (VIVA) sound system? I swear that system was hands down one of the cleanest sound system in the city.The bass was soooooooooooo fuckin crisp and the mids and highs were jut right.

is it on e-bay now?

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer Do you remember Rio's (VIVA) sound system? I swear that system was hands down one of the cleanest sound system in the city.The bass was soooooooooooo fuckin crisp and the mids and highs were jut right.

I was going to mention Viva too and I agree with you completely. Very clean and crisp. I didn't include it in my 'top' list because I found it too loud sometimes, but at least I could hear ALL the music because it was balanced properly.

Volume is important too (what do other think on this? I personally feel that if I talk loudly into someone ear... like, not quite yelling, they should be able to make out what I'm saying... some clubs make it near impossible to say ANYTHING to eachother without yelling into ears), but first and foremost is the balance. Do DJs control this themselves or is it usually done by a club crew? When I play music I often find myself changing the bass and treble balance certain ways for certain songs to bring out elements that I really enjoy. Do DJs do this too? I've never noticed.

Got in the Drink for 10:45
Checked coat, mistake
Free Rev was nice
Watching fight break out while consuming free rev, amusing

Rank1 - Piet is great, any time. Enjoyed his set.

Garth - Nice selection of tunes.
Way out West - Killa (Orkida) was happy to hear this, been a while

Meno - Was okay, but by 4 am it was time to go home.
Was a drag having to chase coat from Drink coat check to Guv coat check.

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Originally posted by Shaya007 is it on e-bay now?

LOL...

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