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Posted by DigDeep on Jun-12-2002 22:12:

I have a question, does anyone think the popularity of parties/raves would change if all the sudden all of the XTC in the world disappeared!?!?


Posted by DigDeep on Jun-14-2002 03:14:

quote:
Originally posted by randummboy

dude.. mixing energy drinks with alcohol is extremly bad for you.. it causes severe heart problems!!!



Could someone post some info on this???
Is it true????


Posted by Palivar on Jun-14-2002 03:20:

quote:
Originally posted by TECHno addict



Could someone post some info on this???
Is it true????




"nuh, I do it all the time, it's all good"


Posted by u4ea:[soulstar] on Jun-15-2002 00:35:

quote:
Originally posted by TECHno addict
I have a question, does anyone think the popularity of parties/raves would change if all the sudden all of the XTC in the world disappeared!?!?


Hmm.. Simple answer: No. Drugs can easily be replaced with alternatives. The popularity is not always with the drugs, but the music, the vibe, and the people.

Innominate: There's not too many of you living on this dustball. Your experience and your ability to discern is on a different higher plane than most of the users out there. NOt too many of us in this world can come near such blissful states. it is truly a blessed gift as I have learn.. Sometimes, I find it a curse.


Posted by innominate on Jun-16-2002 05:53:

U4ea: thankyou very much for your kind comments. I am quite humbled. may the world be a place rich in the good things that peoiple do, not just for themselves but for others and the infinite subtle variations of the natural worlds.

My love to all and that they may be safe.

jc


Posted by sothis on Jun-16-2002 06:25:

i dont want to read all 7 pages of this, but i did mdma VERY OFTEN for 2 years, and i am now taking medication to fix the fucked up damage it did to my seratonin levels... as well as serious emotional issues caused by it.

people never stop to think about what this will do long term. let me remind everyone, it WILL fuck you up mentally.


Posted by DigDeep on Jun-17-2002 02:12:

quote:
Originally posted by sothis
i dont want to read all 7 pages of this, but i did mdma VERY OFTEN for 2 years, and i am now taking medication to fix the fucked up damage it did to my seratonin levels... as well as serious emotional issues caused by it.

people never stop to think about what this will do long term. let me remind everyone, it WILL fuck you up mentally.


Im sorry to hear that.......ive never heard of treatments for XTC use before. What do they prescribe you for this?


Posted by sothis on Jun-17-2002 03:36:

there isnt a treatment for mdma use, its not that general.

ever since i did hardcore amounts of mdma, i became extremely irritable, would freak/stress out so much over stupid shit, was totally emotional, blah blah blah. it didnt even feel like me. but it never started until i took so much of that evil drug. i would feel myself going out of control emotionally when ANYTHING happened.

i finally went in. ive been on lithium, buspar, etc to try to help with the emotional shit. finally i tried what im on now, its called risperdal. its an anti-psychotic (sounds scary huh?) but im taking 1/3 of the normal dose that someone like that would take. basically it helps balance out your seratonin and dopeamine levels, which makes perfect sense why i am starting to feel normal again. its used in small doses (in general) with people who have anxiety/irritability/mood swing issues.

i wish i had been smart and realized this kind of shit can happen while i was taking 3 pills a weekend, every weekend, so i could have gotten around the consequences.

again kids. this drug might be fun, but its gonna fuck you up if you take it a lot. dont go there. its not fun.


Posted by innominate on Jun-18-2002 11:30:

how much risperdal u taking?


how much mdma did u take? ie how many pills and for how long... were they hard or soft or mixed pills?

of course u dont have to say anything... just wondering.

hope your coping alright with the world at the moment.

atb, jc


Posted by innominate on Jun-18-2002 13:37:

click on the new scientist magazine article at the top of the ez test web page. this is a super article and gives you some (?) objective evidence re MDMA and people and research.

get to ez test by typing in

www.eztest.com or press here
eztest


Posted by Haai Henk on Jun-18-2002 17:38:

You can enjoy the music better without drugs.
Just drink enough, and you wille ben jsut fine


Posted by TheFeeling on Jun-18-2002 18:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Haai Henk
Just drink enough, and you wille ben jsut fine


You mean Alcohol which is a legal drug and hasn't been proven to be a better drug than f.e. Cannabis


Posted by theeyesofdarkness on Jun-18-2002 21:14:

people please dont take this the wrong way but anyone who needs to take e every weekend more than likely already has some mental problems which may be slight but makes them more likely to fall into the phsycological addiction to e. and then the abuse of e makes that extremely worse.

the problems with e are pretty much something people can figure out before hand if they really think about it in a logical sense. seretonin is the chemical in our brain that helps us maintain a healthy emotional balace, e uses up your seretonin, our body 2 weeks to replace it, so if u are depleting it every week then you never have any. therefor you have NO emotional balance. thats looking at it from the physical angel now the phsycological... when you put your mind at such mental highs so often then when you have to deal with a low point in life that having experienced such a high makes that low seem lower than it really is. in reality the low really might not be that low but when coming down from such an unreal high it sure does seem like its pretty damn low. these are things that it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out just takes some thinking about what you are actually doing. but if someone is dropping e every weekend i guess they arent really thinking too much.

i dont want it to seem that i dont think it sucks what has happened to some people as the result of drug abuse. i have suffered tons of pain myself from the outcome of someone elses abuse. but seriously what did u think would happen? that u can just do what you want any day of the week and everything will come out fine? its only ignorance that breeds that kind of thought. my ex-boyfriend died from a drug overdose and it was HIS fault. yes he was physically addicted but he got himself addicted by continuing to take what he knew to be a physically addictive drug. its not the drugs fault he decided to take one too many pill (percosets, xanax, vicodins, that type of thing) one nite and never woke up. he chose to make that mistake. he knew the possible outcome of his actions and he still chose to do what he was doing and pushing and pushing the limits every time. well one time he pushed it to far. and hes doesnt even have the chance to be around to regret it. drugs do not put a gun to your head and make you take them every weekend. that is a choice individuals make on their own. and if you are going to make those kind of choices than you need to take responsibility for the outcome of those decisions. it may be a harsh way to look at it but essentially it is the truth. and i give much support to the people who realize that they have been making the wrong choices and decide to change that even if its after they have reached the point of irreversible damage. its still not an easy thing to do. addictions are hard things to break.


Posted by innominate on Jun-20-2002 08:06:

u have to be careful assigning blame when u are talking about OD. because the one thing you can be sure about is when u are doing it everything else pales into insignificance when u are on the drugs. they make u feel the way u want to so strongly thateverything else stops mattering.

feeling this way is done for many reasons... to get out of bad things or feeling good... the point remains that OD happens because people want to be there... the only problem being that they may want to come back or that the way they feel has altered their understanding of where they are going.

sad... please be careful.

p & l, ftw, atb, jc.


Posted by kr00t0n on Jun-20-2002 11:05:

But not everyone who uses, takes every week-end.
And some peoples mind can handle drugs better, in the sense that they have high serotonin levels/reproduction levels.
And it helps if you vary your narcotic from time to time.
I havent been doing much lately coz it's a mission to get to the parties I want to go to from London, and I dont have much money at the moment.
When that sorts itself out, I'll be back at around 3 pills every 2 weeks for 4 weeks, and then some acid for the following 2 weeks.
I dont know if this seems alot for some of you (totals 12 pills and 2 trips in 3 months) but thats fine for me. Quite a bit less from what I was doing last year (5 pills every week).
And not everyone NEEDS them, it can just makes things a little different now and again, much like why people drink alcohol at parties. I avoid drinks at all costs, coz I personally think that they are worse then pills. People get violent and often say things (terrible things) that they regret later. I've done this. Never again.

I'm sorry to hear about those who have lost people close to them as a result of drug use, but not every person who takes will OD.
Some people understand how dangerous they CAN be, and learn all that they can about it. I knew the ins and outs of ecstacy and acid long before I took, and I like to keep myself as up to date on things like as much as possible.

And I dont like the way that weed and alcohol are deemed acceptable by most of the non-users on this forum. They are also drugs, albeit it nothing like mandrax or heroin, but then again, neither are pills/trips.

Cheerz
kr00t0n


Posted by DigDeep on Jun-22-2002 23:16:

I just went to my first party in a LONG time, and its been an even LONGER time since ive been to a party and not done e. If anyone is in the same situation as me, and feels the e is losing its edge, QUIT!!!! (at least for a while) I HAD A BLAST!!!


Posted by LadyLuck13 on Jun-22-2002 23:46:

Read This!

E , is a very bad thing. It can cause memory loss in some instances. Sure, you enjoy it while you're doing it...but later on in life, will it be worth it? Not IMO. I dont use drugs. I rarely drink anymore. I have my reasoning behind that. You'd be surprised how messed up your life can become with an addiction such as those. I dont need more drama


---But what do I know, I'm only old enough to be a mother to some of you....


Posted by Tak on Jun-23-2002 05:08:

As I always say, you can determine good trance by cranking it up loud as seeing if it feels like extacy. You don't need drugs to feel good.

- reality is for people who can't deal with drugs.


Posted by u4ea:[soulstar] on Jun-23-2002 22:27:

Smiling Frog

I'm surprised this thread is still kicking..

Innominate: I find that bad and good experiences from drugs are precursors to learning a lesson. Some people go too far and never make it back. Some people blaze to the top of the heavens and fall down with a big thud (like me )! Some do not learn from the experiences either way.

Mushroom and E has opened the door to Satori for me. Ever since I stopped taking any drugs, I've met people who keep giving me clues of my true purpose for this world. Clues that date back to the beginning of Buddhism. How ironic these people can feel the connection I have within me, but I am clueless, still. :P

What I do know is E is a very strong empathic drug. What I felt with E was like being embraced by divine Love. What a "WOW" experience. So really the ultimate drug is "Love" itself.. People abuse the drug to get that "fuzzy" feeling back.. Chasing it, clinging to it like life depended it. That's how I felt, realized my undoing, and stopped. I've found a more spiritual way to connect and commune with nature.. Overgrow.com the world.

So I leave you with some words about this four-letter word..

The greatest Love has no possessor, nor is it to be possessed. The highest Love is not the passions that ignite and die quickly in the darkness of nights. It is the blessed Light that welcomes all into its heart. The strength that is unconditional, compassionate.... and undying.... The flower that blossoms like a fragile butterfly unclasping its wings to the Angels' battle-hymn of "Liberation."

I will follow that butterfly until the end of days.. until I come home...


Posted by DigDeep on Jun-29-2002 06:59:

Re: lovely xtc chick

quote:
Originally posted by Palivar



this totally shouldnt of been taken off!!!!
who thought it was offensive???!!??
she was the xtc chick!!!!
please pavilar post again, post again!!!


Posted by iMaGe on Jun-29-2002 15:01:

i used to be the ecstasy weekend warrior the second half of 2000... i learned to control it since then, only dropping every couple months or so. tolerance is the key. i dont think i'm going to quit mdma anytime soon, but i know damn well that i won't ever come to the point that i take so much ecstasy that i'mma bad trip and say fuck this.


Posted by Ste on Jun-29-2002 15:11:

quote:
Originally posted by TECHno addict


Im sorry to hear that.......ive never heard of treatments for XTC use before. What do they prescribe you for this?



the best way to prevent damage is munch loads of multi vitamins after pill use works wonders apprently.



as for me, i was an emotional fuck up before i started on the cakes, but now im a much more laid back person, i think!


Posted by Wasted_Space on Jun-29-2002 15:49:

Come come peoples, if ya gonna be hitting the drugs every week, at an ever increasing rate, of course there will be ramofications.

Take it easy, everything in moderation...









... including moderation


Posted by DigDeep on Aug-04-2002 23:38:

Re: No more XTC for me........

quote:
Originally posted by DigDeep
I've been a pretty consistant xtc user for about 2 years now. I've had great times in the past on the drug, but the past few times ive used have turned out to be some of the worst experiences of my life. This is why ive decided to stop doing this mentally damaging drug. The last 3 or 4 times of using, my buzz has worn off quicker, and the come down has been far worse, resulting in me throwing up from such bad migraines. The feeling of depression and emptyness isnt too swell either. I dont regret doing E, since it is the reason i got into the electronic music scene. But i thought i'd post this to other users who have considered quitting, and maybe make people realize you can enjoy raves/parties without the chemicals.


Ok after further thought on the situation, i decided to do xtc ONE MORE TIME. And GODDAMN it was good. Just like the old times, felt like i was floating, i loved everyone, and i danced non stop until 8 in the morning!!! So for those of you who have lost that wicked feeling when using........take half a year off!!!!!


Posted by jp on Aug-05-2002 00:11:

Yep cause your serotonine level needs to be normal again


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