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Posted by TranceArmstrong on Dec-13-2008 21:06:

If the people wanted to bailout GM we would have bought more of their cars. Good conclusion to that NY times article and basically sums up my feeling about the issue.

Why spend billions propping up an industry that has proven too big, bloated, and inefficient to make it on its own?


Posted by zoogla on Dec-13-2008 21:49:

i wonder what the social welfare costs will be if the millions in the auto industry lose their jobs.


Posted by factory81 on Dec-13-2008 21:57:

If I understand correctly.

The auto industry goes in to chapter 11...whatever happens happens.
But the government will then pick up the tab on all the pensions and such. So either way isn't the government fucked here?


Also I heard that Toyota and Honda and shit want this bailout package because if the parts suppliers go out of business (chpt 11) (which they already have, or are close to) then it will only complicate things for them.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Dec-18-2008 19:23:

i just got emailed a job offer from chrysler

i was gonna email them back something about concerns of job security but.. meh. too lazy.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Dec-18-2008 19:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
i just got emailed a job offer from chrysler

i was gonna email them back something about concerns of job security but.. meh. too lazy.


lol...sounds like yer set fer life. Just keep making the Dodge Challenger and Viper


Posted by zoogla on Dec-18-2008 20:53:

quote:
DETROIT, Dec 17 (Reuters) - Citing a credit crisis and dwindling sales, Chrysler LLC on Wednesday said it would shut down all of its manufacturing operations from the end of this week for at least a month.

The blanket shutdown marked a deepening of the financial crisis for the embattled U.S. auto industry and came as Chrysler and its larger rival General Motors Corp (GM.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) both seek to shore up cash as they seek a federal bailout they say they need to survive.

Chrysler, considered the weakest of the Detroit automakers, made the announcement on its plant shutdown in a letter sent on Wednesday to its employees, suppliers and the United Auto Workers union that was also posted on its website.

Chrysler said its dealers were getting car shoppers into showrooms but losing between 20 percent and 25 percent of those potential sales because of the lack of consumer financing for new car purchases.

"As a result of the financial crisis, the automotive market remains depressed due to the continued lack of consumer credit for potential buyers," the automaker said in a statement.

Separately, Chrysler said its finance arm could be forced to stop making loans dealers use to finance inventory because the dealers have been pulling money out from a fund that helps finance the floorplan loans. [ID:nN17349800]

The shutdown by Chrysler will idle plants in the United States, Canada and Mexico producing vehicles for its Chrysler, Jeep and Dodge brands.

The more than 30,000 Chrysler workers in the United States represented by the UAW receive nearly full benefits and wages during plant shutdowns, but labor costs represent only about 10 percent of the total cost of the average vehicle.

By idling plants, Chrysler and other automakers can cut costs on inventory, components and related charges such as utilities for operating large production facilities.

The moves also keep finished vehicle inventories from piling up on dealer lots and increasing the pressure for even greater discounting to consumers.

GM said last week that it was cutting its first-quarter production schedule by 60 percent compared with the same period a year earlier.

Privately held Chrysler is 80-percent owned by private equity firm Cerberus Capital Management.

Chrysler's sales plunged 47 percent in November and were down almost 28 percent for the first eleven months of 2008.


http://www.reuters.com/article/rbss...735395920081217


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