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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN as well as northern ireland. they achieved far more at the ballot box and through negotiation than they did with bombs and guns. Similarly, the revolution in china will (imo) occur because of the growing middle class, infrastructure and information access, not through force of arms.

One of the reasons that Tiannenman Square continues to be so iconic. There's nothing as suicidal as a regime using force against peaceful opposition.

Ladies and gentlemen - a round of applause for Krypton!

God this thread sucks. I hate it when idiots like all of you try to sound smart. It's cringe-inducing.

Bye.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov One of the reasons that Tiannenman Square continues to be so iconic. There's nothing as suicidal as a regime using force against peaceful opposition.

Yeah, good point. I'd be interested to know what krypton thinks arming those civilians would have achieved (asides from getting even more people slaughtered).

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Originally posted by FromAbove God this thread sucks. I hate it when idiots like all of you try to sound smart. It's cringe-inducing. Bye.

at least we can try. some of you are just doomed to failure!

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Originally posted by FromAbove God this thread sucks. I hate it when idiots like all of you try to sound smart. It's cringe-inducing. Bye.

You're on to something here. It's much better when people have to make up stories of spending time with women outside of the internet.

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Originally posted by UWM You're on to something here. It's much better when people have to make up stories of spending time with women outside of the internet.

You forgot about copying and pasting pictures from Failblog. I'm sure he loves threads like that too.

Making up stories. See that's what's so sad about you people. When a normal guy like me starts talking about being with women you think it's made up. It's my life.

You smell that. That's my shit.

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Originally posted by FromAbove Bye.

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Originally posted by FromAbove You smell that. That's my shit.

yeah, your bull shit.

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Originally posted by FromAbove

it's true...guns and bombs stop evolution...this one of nature's many errors, proving humans never will survive.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN as well as northern ireland. they achieved far more at the ballot box and through negotiation than they did with bombs and guns.

Even moreso, they have achieved far more through the bedroom than directly through political maneuvering. Increasing birth-rates for Catholics and their disposition towards supporting agendas of a North Ireland Republic ensure that their numbers will eclipse any opposition, especially through democratic means.

This is why I posit that guns are a dangerous albeit inferior form of ascertaining consumer resources - things such as sex-wars are far more effective at consuming opposing ideologies. The frustrated will of a minority to exact decimation upon people is a dehumanizing threat insofar as it poses dangerously rapid consequence in lieu of our relative frailty; to destroy a person rather than their ideas is not only base - it is ineffective when considering the superorganism that society represents. It brings about change, sure, but rarely - if ever - in the favour of those who would so readily use them. We are animals scarcely capable of properly governing ourselves, much less responsible to the point of adequately harnessing the illusion of control we build to feel safer behind a set of crosshairs.

lol, you crack me up.

Speaking of crack...

Krypton is a fine example of what I have been attempting to establish, and I am glad that he made an appearance in this thread. Consider that he is a US citizen over the age of 18 and unlikely to have a serious criminal record barring him from purchasing firearms even through completely legal means.

Are guns not the most frightening thing in the world now?

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Speaking of crack... Krypton is a fine example of what I have been attempting to establish, and I am glad that he made an appearance in this thread. Consider that he is a US citizen over the age of 18 and unlikely to have a serious criminal record barring him from purchasing firearms even through completely legal means. Are guns not the most frightening thing in the world now?

haha, poor krypton! at least when he used the gun he would be thoroughly convinced it was the right course of action, and it would take a few people a few years his senior to illustrate the error of his ways

ugh. reading kryptons posts almost makes me smash my head on my desk.

Could someone please nutshell this thread please?

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Originally posted by saluyamo Could someone please nutshell this thread please?

Popular convention states that guns are merely tools - weapons like any other, only extensions of man's innately brutal and undeniably animalistic will to kill those of his kind over an innumerable amount of reasons. Do you agree that they are merely tools or is there something more to it?

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Popular convention states that guns are merely tools - weapons like any other, only extensions of man's innately brutal and undeniably animalistic will to kill those of his kind over an innumerable amount of reasons. Do you agree that they are merely tools or is there something more to it?

hey, you left out all the krypton mockery which has become the quintessential component of this thread!

Goddammit, he did hijack it with his antics, didn't he? Oh, that Krypton!

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Wait, are you disagreeing with me or with the justification I have presented? Disagree with it all you like, but it does not change the fact that people arm themselves out of fear, out of personal protection or, as Lebezniatnikov brought up, out of simple cohesion to cultural folkways. I didn't say this was everyone and everywhere in the world, but if you think it's only something happens in the United States, then I think you'd best take a look around. If you also believe that military, morals, laws and establishment "work fine" then perhaps you'd best take a step back and define your terms. Very little about the world "works fine", as innocent people die to the ideals of the self-appointed righteous each and every day in this absurd carnival of weaponry we have built our cities upon, and it's not always to the hands of those who violate your sense of moral conduct.

Sorry, it honestly would have made more sense if I hadn't gone and accidentally deleted 4 paragraphs of responses to you
Sometimes I really hate web browsers.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On The constitution should probably go under a slight re-wording to entitle citizens to the right to bear muskets.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Consider that he is a US citizen over the age of 18

That's giving him the benefit of the doubt, no?

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Originally posted by Krypton

awww, dont be like that buddy. we're all fond of you.

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