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Originally posted by darcnight I mean...blaming the poor and black people? who ACCOUNT FOR LESS THAN 7% OF THE OUTSTANDING MORTGAGES?

Where do you get 7% from? You haven't even stated an exact definition of "poor".

In any event, it doesn't take a very high percentage of defaulters to hurt a lender, especially if they default after just a few years or sooner. That's why they have credit checks.

When businesses fail, it's rarely if ever due to a lack of regulation.

I approve:
1. The effort to rebuild the infrastructure in this country. For pete's sake I-90 bridge in Cleveland is collapsing and two lanes are closed. I would like to see him go even further with a national MAGLEV.
2. Healthcare reform

I do not approve:
1. Summers and Rubin as his financial advisors. They lobbied for deregulation of derivatives. Now they are going to fix it? Rubin ran Citi into the ground and profited nicely from it.
http://solari.com/blog/?p=2006
2. William J Lynn III as Deputy Secretary of defense. $3.3 trillion was lost under his watch from 2000-2001.
http://solari.com/blog/?p=1983
3. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, who is destroying the sytem of compulsary public education in this country via militarized Charter schools. At the end we could have a system of private schools for the wealthy, a few good public schools if you live in wealthy areas, or charter schools for everyone else.
4. Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack who supports GMOs and big agri-farms. No help to the small farmer will come under this guy.
5. His choice of Eric Holder for Attorney General. This article speaks for itself:
http://www.counterpunch.org/murillo11192008.html
6. The list goes on.

http://www.sliderontheblack.com/fed...r-the-nwo-gold/

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Originally posted by darcnight ... Please dont post someones opinion as fact. not trying to be rude...wanna sum it up for me...in your own words? I mean...blaming the poor and black people? who ACCOUNT FOR LESS THAN 7% OF THE OUTSTANDING MORTGAGES?...thats not coming from some "left-wing" columnists mouth..its coming from the mortgage bankers association. Thank You Come Again.

Did you even read the article? It's not the poor to blame, although they shouldn't have been so foolish in committing to mortgages they couldn't afford in the first place.

The problem is that the banks were pressured into taking on customers who really couldn't afford to pay, and that's led to this current crisis. And that IS fact, not opinion.

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Originally posted by tonybologna I do not approve: 1. Summers and Rubin as his financial advisors. They lobbied for deregulation of derivatives. Now they are going to fix it? Rubin ran Citi into the ground and profited nicely from it. http://solari.com/blog/?p=2006 2. William J Lynn III as Deputy Secretary of defense. $3.3 trillion was lost under his watch from 2000-2001. http://solari.com/blog/?p=1983 3. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, who is destroying the sytem of compulsary public education in this country via militarized Charter schools. At the end we could have a system of private schools for the wealthy, a few good public schools if you live in wealthy areas, or charter schools for everyone else. 4. Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack who supports GMOs and big agri-farms. No help to the small farmer will come under this guy. 5. His choice of Eric Holder for Attorney General. This article speaks for itself: http://www.counterpunch.org/murillo11192008.html

Haha, you make it sound like he's a truer Republican than Bush was. For the sake of all Americans I can only hope that you're right.

Don't have work tomorrow and I feel like watching the inauguration live, but not at home. Anyone know of any public places where they are screening this historic event? If it wasn't freezing and winter it would probably held at Yonge-Dundas Square.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Maybe there's a different way to interpret that? To me it sounds like you're saying that he'll be following the agenda of the corporations and power elite (and therefore, that any poor decisions he makes will be a result of that). Am I missing something?

Not necessarily following their agenda (although it's not like that is COMPLETELY out of the question) but his options will be limited by them. He preaches all these great things now but in reality there's more people out there than just him that have a say in how things are run in the USA. Or any other country for that matter.

Then I may be wrong. Heck, I hope I'm wrong. But a politician is a politician. They're all friends scratching eachothers' backs and returning favours, etc etc.

So, its been one year! What do you guys think? Did he live up to the hype or does he need more time?

all I see is that a year later, the hype is still strong but nothing's changed.

he hasn't lived up to anything yet...which I figured would be the case....and now his health reform looks like it will be a no go.

Well, he isn't some type of magic Negro.

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Originally posted by Orko Well, he isn't some type of magic Negro.

yes he is...he's the president of the USA....he has to be magical

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced he hasn't lived up to anything yet...which I figured would be the case....and now his health reform looks like it will be a no go.

The healthcare part is what saddens me.

This thread showcases exactly what the U.S. government WANTS the citizens of the world to argue about when talking about Obama. It's so sad. People think their talking about something real...

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Originally posted by Anas Attia This thread showcases exactly what the U.S. government WANTS the citizens of the world to argue about when talking about Obama. It's so sad. People think their talking about something real...

And this would be the perfect time to tell us what you think we should be talking about.

Obama = all show and no go.

He still has the silver tongue but it seems that americans are starting to see through the jabber. They voted in a republican senator in a seat that was democratic for 60 years and in the most left wing state of all, massachusettes!

Seriously what has Obama done other than TRIPLE the deficit and leave americans owing a hell of a lot more to china than they did a year ago?

Now he is starting to go after banks limited their size and what kind of business they can be in. All this is going to do is weaken american banks and strengthen those in places like china where its cutthroat and no holds barred.

It reminds me of a speech i once heard trump give. He said basically that the reason why countries like china are beating us at our own game is become we have become to fixated on how NOT to do something rather than how TO do it.

Obama and the pack of socialists we keep electing on this side of the world are a testament to that!

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Originally posted by Orko And this would be the perfect time to tell us what you think we should be talking about.

To be completely honest, most people cannot even comprehend the overstraining reality, and any explanatory attempt being made on Trance Addict of all places will be shot down and ridiculed through prejudice and vague notions of self worth. I'd love to talk about this outside of TA, but i've learned my lesson from previous attempts in other threads.

If its any consolation, I started the first Obama thread as he won the election due to my excitement, that quickly changed. It's ok for one to be wrong, actually one is wrong most of the time we should get used to it.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 He still has the silver tongue but it seems that americans are starting to see through the jabber.

He is going to "win" the election again. (not that it is foul play, its just pointless)

I think that he still needs more time however the nobel prize should've gone to somebody else.

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Originally posted by T_ALI ... the nobel prize should've gone to somebody else.

NO WAY !!!!

that goes to show you how fucked up, corrupted and stripped of all morals the world is nowadays.

remind me again please, what did he do to win that prize??

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Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty NO WAY !!!! that goes to show you how fucked up, corrupted and stripped of all morals the world is nowadays. remind me again please, what did he do to win that prize??

HE GAVE HOPE FOR THE WORLD...HE IS THE SECOND COMING!!!!!11111oneoneone

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Originally posted by LKD HE GAVE HOPE FOR THE WORLD...HE IS THE SECOND COMING!!!!!11111oneoneone

those whores on cedar st give hope and love to all them ugly sons o' bitches, night after night. and they actually do it, not just words and empty promises.

so how come they werent even nominated?? and every single politician, obama included, is a bigger whore than... i dont know.

makes you think !!

I'm still waiting for my free gasoline.

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Originally posted by Time2Burn I'm still waiting for my free gasoline.

(in an terrance and phillip voice)

and cure cancahhhh!

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