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Originally posted by Sushipunk My parents divorced when I was very young, so I was raised by my mum, and hardly ever saw my dad. None the less, I would consider myself to have quite a balanced perspective on things, and I have never had any identities with my 'identity', as you put it. Am I an exception to some kind of rule?

my sister went through two divorces and raised four kids on her own. she never really had any relationship with her father, he was an alcoholic restaurant owner from portland, oregon; who also happened to hit and abuse my mom. she lived with him for about six years - it was during the last months of her relationship that things got ugly. She decided to run away from the house (and country) vowing never to return until both my sister and I were old enough.

My sister had many many problems while growing up, most of them being identity problems (not knowing most of her father's family except for her grandmother), and my mother was also studying in washington d.c while my sister was raised by my grandmother and grandfather (mother's side)

my parents never got married (my mother never really divorced her first husband), and my dad had many affairs throughout his relationship with mom. i don't know if i turned out good or not; only time will tell...

what if two homosexual men would've raised my four nephews and nieces? what if two homosexual men would've raised my sister? what if two homosexual would have raised me? no one knows the outcome of that...

You know. to tell you the truth, here in Ukraine the situation with homophobia is pretty bad. Nevertheless, besides accepting homosexuality I have frequently advocated for the rights and freedoms of homosexuals in relevant discussions and disputes, clearly understanding that homosexuality should not be treated (and fought) like a disease, a mental illness (you all know that homosexuality has been recalled from APA and UN lists of mental illnesses). But it's hard to stay so liberal-minded when fags try to deform the meaning of a family. Yes! A family is a mother and a father (two obligatory role models with natural sexual orientation). You can call me conservative in this regard. Conservative thinking is not always a negative thing, as a lot of people might think in the Western society. You can't just change things for the sake of change, for the sake of novelty and freshness. But that's just my opinion. And all opinions are equal. Now stop calling me a homophobe, you thickheads.

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Originally posted by tubularbills honestly, i'd be interested to see a study: have two dudes raise a kid that is not of their own descent (but raised from birth). have another two dudes raise a kid that is from one of their sperm. have another two dudes raise two kids, one from each of their sperm. and see what happens over an 18 year period. (likewise for ladies)

Ya, nobody would pay for that.

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear Now stop calling me a homophobe, you thickheads.

But you are. You say all this stuff about being understanding and supportive of homosexuality then you use the word "but" and it all goes out the window.

Hey Hey.

Does this include Gay Fish?

SPECIALLY gay fish

Dear Boris_the_bear,

Your new name is Boris_the_Faggot. And now I'll flame the crap out of you.

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BUT you go further. you want everyone to glorify and praise that sacred sexual preference of yours.

Who is glorifying what? You, just like the actors in that commercial who aren't going anywhere as actors anymore, are making up a counter-argument that doesn't exist. Absolutely no one wants everyone to glorify and praise gayness. In fact gay people want you to leave them alone. But you don't, because you're are psychologically sick. I don't even know why you have access to a computer.

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And you fucking deny that same-sex attraction is an ABNORMALITY, a DEVIATION (a PATHOLOGY, be it genetic or acquired) from the way nature meant it to be.

Evolutionary speaking yes homosexuality is a dead end. So is the inability to make children an evolutionary dead end. Plenty of straight people can't produce children. But neither you nor any of your homophobic psychologically fucked friends can make that correlation or generalization can you? No, because it's not about evolutionary dead ends or deviations from how our species propagates; it's about making you feel more comfortable about yourself because you hate homosexuals based on absolutely nothing logical. How do you live with yourself knowing that you're so fucking stupid?

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Nobody says it's wrong to be gay. There's nothing you can do with it if you become gay anyway. If I were gay, I'd be gay. Simple as that. But IT IS NOT a normal state and SHOULD NOT be artificially spread like some sort of upgrade/advantage for a human being.

OMG you're right, gays don't want to just marry and have children, they want to UPGRADE to superhumans. In fact, I just want to shove my dick in your eye-socket right now. Is that ok?

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I don't honestly care about you fucking each other up the bum, but I DO CARE for the children who are born normal (cause being straight IS a normal state of a human being) and ARTIFICIALLY deformed by their gay "parents" in the course of being brought up (it is almost inevitable when a kid grows up with two gay dads, for christ's sake!!).

I honestly don't care if you shove your disgusting little prick into some drunk chicks vag, but you have just proven to the c0r that you are worse than a circuit-party-going, cocaine-sniffing, bareback-orgy AIDS-infested queeny-screemy fag. ARTIFICIAL insemination happens with STRAIGHT couples too. But again it isn't about deviations, it's about you being a complete homophobe. Congratulations, you're officially brain-dead.

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so all those of you who hurry with calling me a stoneage homophobe - live on, you stupid one-cell bacteria. read your posts. analyze the grounds on which you labeled me "homophobic". Use your fucking brain.

I'll give you this much: at least you try to "tolerate" fags. I don't even tolerate people who spew the shit you just said to my face. Thankfully no one has since I came out.

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear You know. to tell you the truth, here in Ukraine the situation with homophobia is pretty bad.

Oh, well that explains why you're so stupid. You can't help but to belong to a mentality of a group that's a bastardized off-shoot of a Russian nation. I guess there really is no point in arguing with you then because you can't help being a homophobe. You belong to a country that's already fucking stupid.

I guess it would make me even by saying that I don't think Ukrainians should be raising children since most of them have oddly-shaped heads, giant noses, disproportionate facial features, and smell like 5-week old cum. I'm almost certain that these qualities shouldn't be passed on to the next generation. So please, stop advocating your sick and twisting deformities to everyone. Much appreciated.

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Nevertheless, besides accepting homosexuality I have frequently advocated for the rights and freedoms of homosexuals in relevant discussions and disputes

Oh thanks massah. You mean I can drink from the white fountain but still can't raise white children? Well at least you advocated some rights.

Advocating some rights but not others doesn't make you open-minded. You're still a homophobe. And you are still retarded. Probably ugly too which doesn't help.

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But it's hard to stay so liberal-minded when fags try to deform the meaning of a family. Yes! A family is a mother and a father (two obligatory role models with natural sexual orientation).

It's hard to take you seriously when you think you're so open-minded but then say that gays raising children is an "ARTIFICIALLY deformed" concept. Yup, those are your words. And that's why no one cares about what you think you've done to help gays, because you're existence just hurts them.

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear

fixed

This thread is not complete without that fag who likes DJ Icey.

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Originally posted by Renzo This thread is not complete without that fag who likes DJ Icey.

I'll tell Josh Rising his fans are summoning him.

I think it's funny how a guy who guys by "the_bear" on an internet forum can be so adamantly opposed to homosexuality.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On I think it's funny how a guy who guys by "the_bear" on an internet forum can be so adamantly opposed to homosexuality.

heh, we should call him "Boris_the_bearback"

I like it! Thunderbirdth-are-go!

I'm baffled by how many of you are getting upset at people who are against gay couples "having" kids. It's a travesty. How do you explain to a 5 year-old why he has 2 dads? Seriously...give me an exact quote of what YOU would say if you were in that situation. Any child raised with 2 gay parents will be horrendously fucked up.

yeah! call me whatever you want. join your efforts, folks! congratulations on showing your kindergarten maturity

and, please, quote me where I am frankly opposed to homosexuality. thank you

and I mean quote, not speculate.. this does not apply to raging Jake though

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Originally posted by punjabi I'm baffled by how many of you are getting upset at people who are against gay couples "having" kids. It's a travesty. How do you explain to a 5 year-old why he has 2 dads? Seriously...give me an exact quote of what YOU would say if you were in that situation. Any child raised with 2 gay parents will be horrendously fucked up.

OH NOUZ!!!! what are you doing??? better watch out for the flying stones while the raging fags are stoning me to death here i want to carry this burden alone, you see

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and, please, quote me where I am frankly opposed to homosexuality. thank you

RIGHT HERE:

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear What I'm mostly concerned about is the ability of these same-sex couples to adopt children and twist their innocent minds

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear I'm against fag couples adopting children.

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear BUT you go further. you want everyone to glorify and praise that sacred sexual preference of yours. And you fucking deny that same-sex attraction is an ABNORMALITY, a DEVIATION (a PATHOLOGY, be it genetic or acquired) from the way nature meant it to be.

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear But IT IS NOT a normal state and SHOULD NOT be artificially spread like some sort of upgrade/advantage for a human being. I don't honestly care about you fucking each other up the bum, but I DO CARE for the children who are born normal (cause being straight IS a normal state of a human being) and ARTIFICIALLY deformed by their gay "parents" in the course of being brought up (it is almost inevitable when a kid grows up with two gay dads, for christ's sake!!).

And that was just in this thread.

I'm sure you're going to say "but I think it's okay to be gay...just not have kids or tell anyone in school you're gay because that's wrooooong." hahahahaha, honestly do you eat scabies for lunch everyday? That's like saying "It's ok for black people to be free and not slavs, but it's not ok for my children to be exposed to R&B or other black lifestyles." Of course there aren't black people in Ukraine so you have no fucking clue what I'm referring to.

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OH NOUZ!!!! what are you doing??? better watch out for the flying stones while the raging fags are stoning me to death here i want to carry this burden alone, you see

Boris the Bearback, You belong in a Bel Ami out-takes video.

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear yeah! call me whatever you want. join your efforts, folks! congratulations on showing your kindergarten maturity

Oh this is your rebuttal? Looks like your argument is perfect.

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Originally posted by punjabi I'm baffled by how many of you are getting upset at people who are against gay couples "having" kids. It's a travesty. How do you explain to a 5 year-old why he has 2 dads? Seriously...give me an exact quote of what YOU would say if you were in that situation. Any child raised with 2 gay parents will be horrendously fucked up.

Did YOUR parents set you down when you were 5 and have the "heterosexual talk" with you?

I'll bet they actually did, considering you.

But most people do not need to be given "the hard truth" at some point - sexuality is an utterly natural thing, no matter how it manifests itself. Neither parents nor parenting determine the sexual orientation of their children. If this were true, heterosexual parents would not have homosexual children. But they do. Otherwise there wouldn't be any homosexuals.

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Originally posted by punjabi I'm baffled by how many of you are getting upset at people who are against gay couples "having" kids. It's a travesty. How do you explain to a 5 year-old why he has 2 dads? Seriously...give me an exact quote of what YOU would say if you were in that situation. Any child raised with 2 gay parents will be horrendously fucked up.

maybe gay marriage is indeed a step too far, but maybe it's not. Honestly, If I were a homosexual man (married) and adopted a son or daughter:

"Dear, some men and women were born different than most parents. Consider yourself lucky because you will have a different experience than your peers, we will teach you how to think for yourself and make opinions based on what feels right for you, we will steer you away from dogma and "biased material" that is prevalent in today's high school system. We will teach you how to respect the "rights" of others and to live a life which is founded on ethics and principles, not dogma nor doctrine; we will accept your decision to be different than us, we will encourage you to learn how to love a 'person' (regardless of gender)

//

there boris it's not so hard after all is it?

What's up with all the fag lovers on TA?

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Originally posted by Krypton Gay marriage takes away freedom? WTF?

On March 10, 2006, Catholic Charities of Boston quit providing adoption services when Massachusetts anti-discrimination laws forced them to allow married same-sex couples to adopt, which has been prohibited by church doctrine.

Swedish Pastor Ake Green was sentenced to jail in June of 2004 for one month having been found guilty of offending homosexuals in a sermon under Sweden�s law against incitement.

In April of 2004 it became illegal to publicly express disapproval of homosexual behavior in Canada under an amendment to the hate propaganda laws.

source: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Fa...sequencesMD.cfm

you're so gay your blood is filled with fagocytes

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Originally posted by punjabi I'm baffled by how many of you are getting upset at people who are against gay couples "having" kids. It's a travesty. How do you explain to a 5 year-old why he has 2 dads? Seriously...give me an exact quote of what YOU would say if you were in that situation. Any child raised with 2 gay parents will be horrendously fucked up.

You belong in a concentration camp.

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Originally posted by weymouth On March 10, 2006, Catholic Charities of Boston quit providing adoption services when Massachusetts anti-discrimination laws forced them to allow married same-sex couples to adopt, which has been prohibited by church doctrine. Swedish Pastor Ake Green was sentenced to jail in June of 2004 for one month having been found guilty of offending homosexuals in a sermon under Sweden�s law against incitement. In April of 2004 it became illegal to publicly express disapproval of homosexual behavior in Canada under an amendment to the hate propaganda laws. source: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Fa...sequencesMD.cfm

You should be allowed to vocally oppose, but not discriminate, against gays. I disagree with the Swedish case. That's over-the-top. Gays should be allowed to adopt at ANY place that offers a baby though. And if you don't want to offer babies to gays, then why not deny access to black people too?

Being opposed to gay couples adopting children does not equal being opposed to gays. Wanting children to be raised in normal families also does not equal being opposed to gays. Prove me wrong without all that childish "let's call him..." stuff. If you have no intention in holding a serious debate, just say it.

Punjabi asked a good question btw.

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Originally posted by Jake Benson You belong in a concentration camp.

There you go. Another valid argument from a representative and a point for the gay community. You're doing them a bad favor though..

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