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yea renzo just because i'm not hispanic means i can't be a good judge of whether or not someone has a hispanic accent when talking to me

did it ever occur to you that maybe chach has zero accent when he's around his white friends and maybe when you've talked to him he had one and didn't realize it? i bet you didn't u fag.

oh and another example is denys. that russian mother****** came here from moscow when he was 11 and he has NO russian accent at all. and his family speaks russian all the time at home. he said sometimes it comes out when he's drunk and with family, but he sounds like a typical american whiteboy when you talk to him. i think that's impressive that he has mastered the american accent despite russian being his native langauge and him moving here when he was 11.

One thing about accents that annoy me is the people that act like they have a particular accent as soon as they start to hang out with those type of people. Like this dude I knew came over and hung out with some irish guys I know and all of sudden he started to talk like an irish person, like wtf?

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Originally posted by weymouth One thing about accents that annoy me is the people that act like they have a particular accent as soon as they start to hang out with those type of people. Like this dude I knew came over and hung out with some irish guys I know and all of sudden he started to talk like an irish person, like wtf?

i've noticed a lot of white people do that with black people often

I give up.

good. i didn't mean for all you people with an accent to get all feisty and defensive lol jesus christ.

like i said before, everyone is different. peole like chach and denys speak perfect american english and sound like they were born and raised in america, despite english being their second language and them living in other countries until they were like 10-12... while others can't quite get rid of their native language accent no matter how long they've lived here, or maybe they don't want to because they have a sense of pride which is fine too.

Denys definitely has a bit of an accent

True. No one would know I spoke anything but English and think I was born and raised in Canada. SO FALSE!

Denys has one with certain words he says, yeah

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Originally posted by bas Denys definitely has a bit of an accent

WHAT?

how?

the only accent he probably has is either an east coast (baltimore) accent or maybe midwestern one.

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Originally posted by Zild I have a fucking awesome Texas accent.

no, you don't...and that's a good thing, jake

i love you, man.

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Originally posted by Slylee WHAT? how? the only accent he probably has is either an east coast (baltimore) accent or maybe midwestern one.

denys has an accent when he's at work, or when he's not drunk. When Denys is drunk he has no accent whatsoever...

You're not even arguing the point I'm trying to make! I clearly stated the difference between speaking with any type of accent versus how a Caucasian would speak. You said Chach speaks like a Caucasian, which he does not. At all. Zero. Not even close. He has an accent. And then you said Chach may speak differently around us, which is the dumbest thing you have ever posted.

If you heard me speak you would say I sound Caucasian, as well. Lots of white bitches do. But guess what, that's incorrect. They're just comparing me to that refugee kid from Little Havana.

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Originally posted by bas Denys definitely has a bit of an accent

Of course, man. He's not from this country. Why is this so difficult to understand for some people?

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Originally posted by Slylee how?

Because he does lol It's not really thick, but it does come out on certain words and his inflection on some stuff.

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Originally posted by Slylee and people are trying to say that NO MATTER WHAT, no matter how long you live somewhere and bla bla bla, you're always going to have your first native language accent no matter what. and that's not true. chach is proof of that.

as of today this remains an open question. there is however substantial (albeit inconclusive) evidence for the intractability of foreign accent after the age of 9 from a number of studies by the likes of e. lenneberg, a. moyer, t. scover, etc. - all are big names in the language acquisition area. the thing to know is that the human ear is not a reliable instrument of perception when it comes to identifying speech deviations. so just because you don't perceive someone as having an accent, it doesn't mean that person does not actually have one. a more precise method would be through the use of waveform/spectral analysis, which would intrinsically yield much more informative results. so yes, those people probably do have an accent that you're just not receptive to.

You're using TWO people for examples Jamie. TWO. or is it three?

We've all been saying that some people lose it within years, some within 10 years and some never lose it. It always stick with you in pieces and you can't seem to grab the thought of it. So you think we're wrong when we're right and you're just stubborn. You may also be immune to chach speaking the way he does so it doesn't phase you PLUS where you live you're surrounded by Latino people so you're even more immune. I think I understand what you're trying to say but you may just be frustrated with us being right with what WE'RE saying that you think we're wrong or we don't understand or something.

how is that the dumbest thing i've ever posted renzo when several other people in here pretty much said the same thing or that it's common for their own accent to come out more when speaking to family or to others who have the same native accent?

i'm telling you right now (and i even asked my boyfriend) chach sounds like he was born and raised in america. i didn't even say the word "surfer" to my boyfriend when i asked him, and he was the one who said he kinda talks like a surfer...no spanish accent whatsoever. so it's not just me who says chach doesn't have an accent.

denys has zero russian accent when he talks to me at least. he even confirmed with me today via email that he tends to only let the russian accent out when he's drunk and around family. i've certainly never heard him have a russian accent before and that's not an easy thing to miss either. it's a very distinctive accent, even when slightly. he even said he knows he talks like a whiteboy and even has a midwestern accent more than a russian one.

i'm not arguing about that other shit anymore (how some people lose it, some people don't). we've already estabished that and in fact i was the first one to throw that out there and say, "let's just agree that some lost it and some dont". but now i have renzo here telling me chach has a spanish accent and i talk to the kid a lot and have hung out with him recently and i'm telling you he doesn't have one..at least when he's around me. and i have another person who says the exact same thing (my boyfriend). that chach has no spanish accent at all. and i'm actually not surrounded by spanish people at all, i'm surrounded by french canadians lol

omg where the fuck is jenny? jenny did you notice chach sounding spanish or more like he belongs on The Hills?

What are you talking about jaime? People always make fun of my accent I used to get made fun of constantly in high school and middle school.

i've ALWAYS told chach he sounds like a valley girl. he sounds like a white guy who can speak fluent spanish. lol a SPACE bouncer wouldn't let him in one night because he had a colombian passport but didn't have an accent [and gee, since SPACE bouncers are the end-all, be-all... ]

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Originally posted by iclone i've ALWAYS told chach he sounds like a valley girl. he sounds like a white guy who can speak fluent spanish. lol a SPACE bouncer wouldn't let him in one night because he had a colombian passport but didn't have an accent.

Why are you always ruining stuff for me.

Those illegals!

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Originally posted by chach Why are you always ruining stuff for me.

um ok?

Let it go Jamie. You've dug yourself a pretty deep hole, if you keep at it you be in Beijing by tomorrow.

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Originally posted by iclone i've ALWAYS told chach he sounds like a valley girl. he sounds like a white guy who can speak fluent spanish. lol a SPACE bouncer wouldn't let him in one night because he had a colombian passport but didn't have an accent [and gee, since SPACE bouncers are the end-all, be-all... ]

FUCK! thank you.


i think if anyone can comment on chach's accent (or lack thereof), it's this girl.

and nice try chach. patrick said where's his fucking weed at.

lol i have it.

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