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Originally posted by Lilith 'petite bourgeoisie'?

that would be you lilith

Its not 5pm yet, get back to work prole

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN No it doesn't. it means land (business) owners

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petite_bourgeoisie

My parents certainly don't work with their employees, and since I'm neither a land owner nor a business owner, I can hardly be classed as anywhere near middle class.

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Originally posted by Domesticated http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petite_bourgeoisie My parents certainly don't work with their employees, and since I'm neither a land owner nor a business owner, I can hardly be classed as anywhere near middle class.

well, are they full-on capitalists or are they somewhere between the workingman and the capitalists? petty bourgeoisie is the best term i have atm, despite them not working alongside their employees

business owners, but not rupert murdoch business owners. petty bourgeoisie is the best 19th century term you'll get to explain where your pares are in the 21st century.

If we're talking 19th century I come from the 'landed gentry', no titles but we owned our own dirt and where not tenants! Least on mums side of the family.

defloration

omg lil is back!

FAO: pkc

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Just after 5 o'clock tonight I did a bit of maths for Jason Morrison. But it's so staggering its worth repeating now. First though ... here's what Chairman Rudd has been saying about - what he calls - these temporary borrowings. Remember those words ... temporary deficit ... but the total Government debt could end up around $200 billion. So here's a very basic calculation ... I used a home loan calculator to work it out ... it's that simple. $200 billion is $200,000 million. The current 10 year Government bond rate is 4.67 per cent. I worked the loan out over a period of 20 years. Now here's where it gets scary ... really scary. The repayments on $200 billion come to more than one and a quarter billion dollars - every month - for 20 years. It works out we - as taxpayers - will be repaying $15.4 billion in interest and principal every year ... $733 for every man woman and child - every year. The total interest bill over the 20 years is - get this - $108 billion. And remember, this is a Government that just 18 months ago had NO debt .. NO debt. In fact it had enough money to create the Future Fund to pay the future liabilities of public servants' superannuation ... and it had enough to stick $20 billion into the Building Australia Fund last year ...

How's that $900 looking? Attractive?

18 months ago the economy was different

That's a load of shit that the government had NO debt just 18 months ago.

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Originally posted by Teezdalien That's a load of shit that the government had NO debt just 18 months ago.

Wasn't there a large surplus on the previous budget?

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Originally posted by Sushipunk Fuck Sushipunk.

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Originally posted by Domesticated Wasn't there a large surplus on the previous budget?

Wasn't there a mining boom during the previous budget?


I know, I know Rudd caused the gfc. I wish Howard was back.. he knew where the magic button is that raises the demand for iron ore.

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Originally posted by astroboy Wasn't there a mining boom during the previous budget? I know, I know Rudd caused the gfc. I wish Howard was back.. he knew where the magic button is that raises the demand for iron ore.

My question was a serious one, not a rhetorical.

Irrespective of whether or not the previous budget was bolstered by mining, the "economic stimulus package" is a load of crap and will cost us dearly in the long run.

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Originally posted by Domesticated How's that $900 looking? Attractive?

i could make shit up too if i felt like it. the current projected deficit is 50 billion dollars, not 200.

oh, but look

IMF endorses aussie stimulus package

sales surge shows stimulus success

sorry if i take these kind of reports a little more seriously than some hack that feels the need to call rudd "chairman" (oh, so clever )

there was no alternative to deficit, i suggest you get over that fact.

sushi is a failure in all aspects of life

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